Non-Trump Republicans

[O Really]

Polls are always accurate, IF, the underlying assumptions and sampling projections are correct. Big IF. But the poll averages show the national - and some state - races to be tightening. However, they're tightening not because Trump is getting more popular, but because he's stirring up so much negativity for Hillary. Trump, in his best times of effort and luck can't crack much past 43%. Most election cycles a candidate with 43% is dead in the water absent a record-breaking strong third party candidate. There is a yuuuuge amount of garbage in this election, strong static over weak signal and a strong effort in all media to keep up excitement with more and more coverage and creation of outrageousness. Even so, Trump isn't up to Romney levels or McCain levels, is dead to blacks, hispanics, better educated people and dying to many women. And, probably most important, he still doesn't have any ground operation to actually get his fans registered and to the polls.

I will really really be glad when this election is over, though. I'm sick of it all.

[rstrong]

Trump won almost every Republican national poll since July 2015 - and that's a lot of polls. The idea of "some people saying 'Trump' to express their frustration but really aren't so stupid as to actually vote for him" was raised back then too, by pundits explaining "...but of course he'll never win the nomination."

It wasn't until well into the primaries eight months later, actual votes coming in, that....

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Not the same thing, rstrong. As your link shows, Trump wasn't winning GOP majorities or close to them until late in the primary campaign. That the pundits didn't account for the Citizen United-fueled lack of winnowing the field early enough to beat Trump is a prediction error, not a polling error.

Could be, O Really. I'm not saying that the polling itself is inaccurate, I'm just questioning whether all supposed Trump supporters will really do what they're telling the pollsters. My bad if 44.2% of Americans vs. 45.7% for Hillary really are that stupid and self-destructive.

[O Really]

The Donald's hard-core base has been identified and analyzed ad infinitim, to the point we can be pretty sure we know who they are. They will be Trumpers until they die, even without Trump. Anti-establishment, authoritarian, anti-immigration - you know, the "basket of deplorables." Then you have some Hillary-haters that will probably stick with Trump. Out of both those groups are some segments that aren't very reliable voters, so some get-out-the-vote effort will be necessary if he's to get his money's worth. Past that are a lot of people not fond of Trump, but not fond of Hillary either. These will waver according to the latest "scandal" or "outrageous comment." A lot of these won't turn out. The percentage of Republicans now saying they'll vote for Trump is lower than the percentage of Dems saying they'll vote for Hillary, and not getting any better. The non-Trumps are pretty well dug in, and the non-Hillarys are scared shitless of Trump. Some of them are leaning toward Johnson, but HIllary's people will spend the the next couple of months telling them that leads to ending up holding a limp Johnson and watching the Donald get inaugurated.

And then there's the electoral numbers. Close or not, Trump's got to run the table of battlegrounds if he's going to win, because of starting behind. Not good chance of that, but anything's possible in the rabbit hole we live in now.

[O Really]

... I'm just questioning whether all supposed Trump supporters will really do what they're telling the pollsters. My bad if 44.2% of Americans vs. 45.7% for Hillary really are that stupid and self-destructive.

According to Quinnipiac, 42% favor building a wall, if that answers your question...

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Maybe, whiny, victimized, blaming xenophobia runs deep in America. That said, there may be some wall proponents that still think that Trump is too stupid and dangerous to be POTUS.

[rstrong]

Not the same thing, rstrong. As your link shows, Trump wasn't winning GOP majorities or close to them until late in the primary campaign.

That was only because there were so many other candidates each getting a tiny share of the vote. Trump was still routinely getting DOUBLE the polling numbers of his nearest rival right from late July 2015.

[rstrong]

That said, there may be some wall proponents that still think that Trump is too stupid and dangerous to be POTUS.

Gwynn Dyer gave a look at Trump in Power, with an assumption that he's successful and effective in keeping his promises:

It won’t actually be a wall, of course. It will be the kind of high-tech barrier that countries build when they are really serious about closing a frontier. There will be a ditch about three metres deep and ten metres wide extending for 3,000 km along the US-Mexican border. It will have a three-metre-high razor-wire fence along the front edge of the ditch, facing Mexico, and another along the back edge.

The front fence has a high-voltage current running through it. The back fence carries the video and infra-red cameras and motion-sensors that detect attempts to cross the ditch, and the remotely controlled machine-guns that respond to those attempts. There are also land-mines down in the ditch. Why is it so lethal? Because long experience has shown that the only way to really close a border is to kill people who try to cross it.

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Well, Trump has expressed fondness for Kim Jong-un.

Not the same thing, rstrong. As your link shows, Trump wasn't winning GOP majorities or close to them until late in the primary campaign. That the pundits didn't account for the Citizen United-fueled lack of winnowing the field early enough to beat Trump is a prediction error, not a polling error.

That was only because there were so many other candidates each getting a tiny share of the vote. Trump was still routinely getting DOUBLE the polling numbers of his nearest rival right from late July 2015.

That's what I meant. I think the pundits were questioning whether he would win in the end, not whether the plurality he had was real.

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I'm usually pretty cynical about US voters. It's funny that I'm the one wondering whether the polls really reflect what they will do when it comes down to it. One thing seems certain, it wouldn't have even been close if Bernie was the nominee.

[O Really]

I'm usually pretty cynical about US voters. It's funny that I'm the one wondering whether the polls really reflect what they will do when it comes down to it. One thing seems certain, it wouldn't have even been close if Bernie was the nominee.

I think that's far from certain. But certainly possible.

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Maybe I'm overestimating US voters again.

[O Really]

Now, O'Malley on the other hand...
If he could have gotten some traction and name recognition through the primaries to have pulled off a win, I think the general election would have been over for weeks. Hard to rage against the machine, though.

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College Republican groups are taking a stand on Trump -- but not the same one

Republicans not voting for Donald Trump

- Harvard University’s Republican Club
- Princeton College Republicans
- George Washington University (my birth place, represent!) College Republicans
- over three thousand signatories to a Wharton School of Business at the University of Pennsylvania (Trump’s alma mater) student letter
- Colin Powell
- Dallas Morning News. Historically, the Morning News has tilted conservative, mirroring Texas' drift to the Republican Party. It has not endorsed a Democrat for president since Franklin D. Roosevelt during World War II.
- Jacob Monty, an attorney based in Houston, resigned from the Republican candidate’s National Hispanic Advisory Council
- Alfonso Aguilar, the president of the Latino Partnership for Conservative Principles
- Maybe half of Trump’s Hispanic advisory board
- Massey Villarreal, a businessman in Houston
- Some of Public Faith
- Regina Thomson, Colorado Republican activist
- Free the Delegates
- NOVA Digital Films, a Virginia-based firm that lists a slew of conservative candidates and organizations as clients, including the Republican Party of Virginia, Americans for Prosperity, the anti-abortion Susan B. Anthony List and former gubernatorial candidate Ken Cuccinelli
- Ted "vote your conscience" Cruz
- The Republican Party
- Glenn Beck
- Ann Coulter? Probably not.
- Barbara Bush, former first lady
- Jeb Bush, former Florida governor, 2016 presidential candidate
- William Cohen, former secretary of defense
- Jeff Flake, Arizona senator
- Lindsey Graham, South Carolina senator, 2016 presidential candidate
- Larry Hogan, Maryland governor
- John Kasich, Ohio governor, 2016 presidential candidate
- Mark Kirk, Illinois senator
- Mitt Romney, former Massachusetts governor, 2012 Republican presidential nominee
- Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, Florida congresswoman
- Ben Sasse, Nebraska senator
- Mike Coffman, Republican congresswoman
- Charlie Dent, Pennsylvania congresswoman
- Vin Weber, former congresswoman, current GOP lobbyist
- Wadi Gaitan, prominent Latino official and chief spokesman for the Republican party in Florida
- Maine Senator Susan Collins (adjacent NH is a swing state)
- Kori Schake, served on President George W. Bush’s National Security Council and was an adviser to Arizona Sen. John McCain’s 2008 presidential campaign
- Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus, almost
- Joe Scarborough
- Evan McMullin, former CIA agent and Republican Congressional staff member, running as an independent
- Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, the most senior member of Florida’s congressional delegation
- Rep. Carlos Curbelo
- Ana Navarro, a GOP strategist and CNN contributor
- Philip Klein, the managing editor of the Washington Examiner
- Cheri Jacobus, GOP consultant and pundit
- Steve Deace, conservative fireband radio host
- Meghan McCain, daughter of 2008 Republican nominee John McCain
- Lachlan Markay, writer for the conservative website Washington Free Beacon
- Ryan Hart, worked on Capitol Hill for several Republican congressmen
- Erick Erickson, high-profile conservative writer and frequent cable news guest
- 50 Republican national security experts including:
--- Michael Hayden, former CIA director (Republican)
--- John Negroponte, first director of national intelligence and later deputy secretary of state
--- Robert B Zoellick, former deputy secretary of state
--- Tom Ridge, former secretary of homeland security
--- Michael Chertoff, former secretary of homeland security
- More than 120 prominent Republicans including three former Cabinet secretaries and six current or former members of Congress:
--- Virginia Rep. Scott Rigell
--- Wisconsin Rep. Reid Ribble
--- Former Sen. Gordon Humphrey of New Hampshire
--- Former Rep. Chris Shays of Connecticut
--- Former Rep. Tom Coleman of Missouri
--- Former Rep. Vin Weber of Minnesota
--- Andrew Weinstein, director of media relations for the Dole/Kemp presidential campaign and deputy press secretary to then-House Speaker Newt Gingrich
--- More than 20 former RNC staffers including:
------ Mindy Finn (former RNC chief digital strategist)
------ Christine Iverson Gunderson (former RNC press secretary)
------ Virginia Hume Onufer (former RNC deputy press secretary)
------ Beth Miller (former RNC field communications division director)
------ Heather Layman (former deputy press secretary)
------ B. Jay Cooper (former RNC communications director under four chairmen)
------ Patrick Ruffini (former RNC ecampaign director)

Republicans voting for Hillary Clinton

- Paul Wolfowitz, former deputy defence secretary, advisor to President George W. Bush
- Ricardo Reyes, former Deputy Assistant USTR for Public and Media Affairs, Media Surrogate for Bush/Cheney Presidential Campaign
- Charles Dunne, former Foreign Policy Adviser, former Director for Iraq, National Security Council
- Robert Manning, former Member of the Secretary of State's Office of Policy Planning
- Jennifer Sarver, former Bush Administration Official, former GOP Senate Staffer, former RNC Professional Volunteer
- Jim Magill, Chief Master Sergeant (ret.), US Air Force
- Mario Mangiameli, Captain US Marine Corps (Ret.) and former Counterterrorism & Law Enforcement Policy Advisor, US Department of Homeland Security
- Charles Badger, former Director of Coalitions for Jeb Bush 2016, former Director of Legislative Affairs (NJ-Department of Community Affairs, Christie Administration), former Hill staff
- David Meyers, former White House Assistant Staff Secretary and former Communications Advisor for the Senate Republican Leadership
- David Nierenberg, former Mitt Romney national finance chair
- Charles Fried, former Solicitor General
- Richard Painter, former Chief White House Ethics Lawyer
- Donna Barbisch, Major General (ret.) and former Director of Chemical and Biological Defense Program Integration
- Ken Adelman, former US Ambassador to the United Nations and former Arms Control Director
- Kurt Bardella, former advisor to Darrell Issa (R-CA) and former spokesman for Breitbart News
- Elizabeth Tamposi, former Assistant Secretary of State and former New Hampshire State Legislator
- Niki Christoff, former member of the policy staff of John McCain 2008
- James Clad, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Asia
- Patrick Cronin, former Assistant Administrator for Policy and Program Coordination, USAID
- James Filippatos, former Assistant Administrator for International Affairs, Federal Aviation Administration
- Jana Chapman Gates, former speechwriter, US Department of the Treasury
- Jean Geran, former member of the Secretary of State’s Office of Policy Planning
- Justin Kintz, former Special Assistant External Affairs, US Department of the Interior
- Frank Lavin, former White House Political Director, former US Ambassador to Singapore, former Under Secretary of Commerce for International Trade
- Phil Levy, former member of the Secretary of State’s Office of Policy Planning
- Peter Mansoor, Colonel, US Army (Ret.)
- Todd Moss, former Deputy Assistant Secretary, Bureau of African Affairs, US Department of State
- Andrew Sagor, former Special Assistant to the US Ambassador-at-Large for War Crimes Issues
- John Stubbs, former Senior Advisor USTR
- Colin Tooze, former Member of the Office of Rep. Chris Cox (R-CA)
- Dan Twining, former Member of the Secretary of State’s Office of Policy Planning
- John Veroneau, former Deputy USTR, former Assistant Secretary of Defense
- Davis White, former Member of the White House Office of Public Liaison
- James Glassman, served as the under secretary of state for public diplomacy and public affairs in the George W. Bush administration, voted for every Republican nominee for president since 1980
- Richard Armitage, former deputy secretary of state
- Hank Paulson, former treasury secretary
- Brent Scowcroft, former national security adviser
- Richard Hanna, New York congressman
- Meg Whitman, Republican finance official
- Adam Kinzinger, Illinois congressman
- Sally Bradshaw, GOP strategist
- Maria Comella, Chris Christie staffer
- Lezlee Westine, former aide to President George W Bush
- Carlos Gutierrez, the U.S. secretary of commerce under President George W. Bush and one of the highest-ranking Latino office holders ever
- conservative billionaire businessman and Gov. Jeb Bush backer Mike Fernandez
- Cindy Guerra, the former chair of Broward County, Florida’s Republican Executive Committee
- Ben Howe, contributing editor at conservative website Red State
- Mike Treiser, former staffer on Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign
- Mark Salter, former strategist for John McCain
- Joseph Shonkwiler, former Republican Senate staffer
- Some of the more than 120 prominent Republicans cited above
- Some of the 50 Republican national security experts cited above
- Some of the Republican Party cited above
- Some of Public Faith cited above
- Some of the con Hispanics cited above
- Some of the College Republicans cited above

[Vrede too]

The Koch Brothers Are Finally Stepping In to Clean Up America’s Mess
It’s just not the one everyone was expecting.

Report: George H.W. Bush to Vote for Hillary Clinton

Republicans not voting for Donald Trump

- Charles and David Koch
- Harvard University’s Republican Club
- Princeton College Republicans
- George Washington University (my birth place, represent!) College Republicans
- over three thousand signatories to a Wharton School of Business at the University of Pennsylvania (Trump’s alma mater) student letter
- Colin Powell
- Dallas Morning News. Historically, the Morning News has tilted conservative, mirroring Texas' drift to the Republican Party. It has not endorsed a Democrat for president since Franklin D. Roosevelt during World War II.
- Jacob Monty, an attorney based in Houston, resigned from the Republican candidate’s National Hispanic Advisory Council
- Alfonso Aguilar, the president of the Latino Partnership for Conservative Principles
- Maybe half of Trump’s Hispanic advisory board
- Massey Villarreal, a businessman in Houston
- Some of Public Faith
- Regina Thomson, Colorado Republican activist
- Free the Delegates
- NOVA Digital Films, a Virginia-based firm that lists a slew of conservative candidates and organizations as clients, including the Republican Party of Virginia, Americans for Prosperity, the anti-abortion Susan B. Anthony List and former gubernatorial candidate Ken Cuccinelli
- Ted "vote your conscience" Cruz
- The Republican Party
- Glenn Beck
- Ann Coulter? Probably not.
- Barbara Bush, former first lady
- Jeb Bush, former Florida governor, 2016 presidential candidate
- William Cohen, former secretary of defense
- Jeff Flake, Arizona senator
- Lindsey Graham, South Carolina senator, 2016 presidential candidate
- Larry Hogan, Maryland governor
- John Kasich, Ohio governor, 2016 presidential candidate
- Mark Kirk, Illinois senator
- Mitt Romney, former Massachusetts governor, 2012 Republican presidential nominee
- Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, Florida congresswoman
- Ben Sasse, Nebraska senator
- Mike Coffman, Republican congresswoman
- Charlie Dent, Pennsylvania congresswoman
- Vin Weber, former congresswoman, current GOP lobbyist
- Wadi Gaitan, prominent Latino official and chief spokesman for the Republican party in Florida
- Maine Senator Susan Collins (adjacent NH is a swing state)
- Kori Schake, served on President George W. Bush’s National Security Council and was an adviser to Arizona Sen. John McCain’s 2008 presidential campaign
- Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus, almost
- Joe Scarborough
- Evan McMullin, former CIA agent and Republican Congressional staff member, running as an independent
- Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, the most senior member of Florida’s congressional delegation
- Rep. Carlos Curbelo
- Ana Navarro, a GOP strategist and CNN contributor
- Philip Klein, the managing editor of the Washington Examiner
- Cheri Jacobus, GOP consultant and pundit
- Steve Deace, conservative fireband radio host
- Meghan McCain, daughter of 2008 Republican nominee John McCain
- Lachlan Markay, writer for the conservative website Washington Free Beacon
- Ryan Hart, worked on Capitol Hill for several Republican congressmen
- Erick Erickson, high-profile conservative writer and frequent cable news guest
- 50 Republican national security experts including:
--- Michael Hayden, former CIA director (Republican)
--- John Negroponte, first director of national intelligence and later deputy secretary of state
--- Robert B Zoellick, former deputy secretary of state
--- Tom Ridge, former secretary of homeland security
--- Michael Chertoff, former secretary of homeland security
- More than 120 prominent Republicans including three former Cabinet secretaries and six current or former members of Congress:
--- Virginia Rep. Scott Rigell
--- Wisconsin Rep. Reid Ribble
--- Former Sen. Gordon Humphrey of New Hampshire
--- Former Rep. Chris Shays of Connecticut
--- Former Rep. Tom Coleman of Missouri
--- Former Rep. Vin Weber of Minnesota
--- Andrew Weinstein, director of media relations for the Dole/Kemp presidential campaign and deputy press secretary to then-House Speaker Newt Gingrich
--- More than 20 former RNC staffers including:
------ Mindy Finn (former RNC chief digital strategist)
------ Christine Iverson Gunderson (former RNC press secretary)
------ Virginia Hume Onufer (former RNC deputy press secretary)
------ Beth Miller (former RNC field communications division director)
------ Heather Layman (former deputy press secretary)
------ B. Jay Cooper (former RNC communications director under four chairmen)
------ Patrick Ruffini (former RNC ecampaign director)

Republicans voting for Hillary Clinton

- George H.W. Bush
- Paul Wolfowitz, former deputy defence secretary, advisor to President George W. Bush
- Ricardo Reyes, former Deputy Assistant USTR for Public and Media Affairs, Media Surrogate for Bush/Cheney Presidential Campaign
- Charles Dunne, former Foreign Policy Adviser, former Director for Iraq, National Security Council
- Robert Manning, former Member of the Secretary of State's Office of Policy Planning
- Jennifer Sarver, former Bush Administration Official, former GOP Senate Staffer, former RNC Professional Volunteer
- Jim Magill, Chief Master Sergeant (ret.), US Air Force
- Mario Mangiameli, Captain US Marine Corps (Ret.) and former Counterterrorism & Law Enforcement Policy Advisor, US Department of Homeland Security
- Charles Badger, former Director of Coalitions for Jeb Bush 2016, former Director of Legislative Affairs (NJ-Department of Community Affairs, Christie Administration), former Hill staff
- David Meyers, former White House Assistant Staff Secretary and former Communications Advisor for the Senate Republican Leadership
- David Nierenberg, former Mitt Romney national finance chair
- Charles Fried, former Solicitor General
- Richard Painter, former Chief White House Ethics Lawyer
- Donna Barbisch, Major General (ret.) and former Director of Chemical and Biological Defense Program Integration
- Ken Adelman, former US Ambassador to the United Nations and former Arms Control Director
- Kurt Bardella, former advisor to Darrell Issa (R-CA) and former spokesman for Breitbart News
- Elizabeth Tamposi, former Assistant Secretary of State and former New Hampshire State Legislator
- Niki Christoff, former member of the policy staff of John McCain 2008
- James Clad, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Asia
- Patrick Cronin, former Assistant Administrator for Policy and Program Coordination, USAID
- James Filippatos, former Assistant Administrator for International Affairs, Federal Aviation Administration
- Jana Chapman Gates, former speechwriter, US Department of the Treasury
- Jean Geran, former member of the Secretary of State’s Office of Policy Planning
- Justin Kintz, former Special Assistant External Affairs, US Department of the Interior
- Frank Lavin, former White House Political Director, former US Ambassador to Singapore, former Under Secretary of Commerce for International Trade
- Phil Levy, former member of the Secretary of State’s Office of Policy Planning
- Peter Mansoor, Colonel, US Army (Ret.)
- Todd Moss, former Deputy Assistant Secretary, Bureau of African Affairs, US Department of State
- Andrew Sagor, former Special Assistant to the US Ambassador-at-Large for War Crimes Issues
- John Stubbs, former Senior Advisor USTR
- Colin Tooze, former Member of the Office of Rep. Chris Cox (R-CA)
- Dan Twining, former Member of the Secretary of State’s Office of Policy Planning
- John Veroneau, former Deputy USTR, former Assistant Secretary of Defense
- Davis White, former Member of the White House Office of Public Liaison
- James Glassman, served as the under secretary of state for public diplomacy and public affairs in the George W. Bush administration, voted for every Republican nominee for president since 1980
- Richard Armitage, former deputy secretary of state
- Hank Paulson, former treasury secretary
- Brent Scowcroft, former national security adviser
- Richard Hanna, New York congressman
- Meg Whitman, Republican finance official
- Adam Kinzinger, Illinois congressman
- Sally Bradshaw, GOP strategist
- Maria Comella, Chris Christie staffer
- Lezlee Westine, former aide to President George W Bush
- Carlos Gutierrez, the U.S. secretary of commerce under President George W. Bush and one of the highest-ranking Latino office holders ever
- conservative billionaire businessman and Gov. Jeb Bush backer Mike Fernandez
- Cindy Guerra, the former chair of Broward County, Florida’s Republican Executive Committee
- Ben Howe, contributing editor at conservative website Red State
- Mike Treiser, former staffer on Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign
- Mark Salter, former strategist for John McCain
- Joseph Shonkwiler, former Republican Senate staffer
- Some of the more than 120 prominent Republicans cited above
- Some of the 50 Republican national security experts cited above
- Some of the Republican Party cited above
- Some of Public Faith cited above
- Some of the con Hispanics cited above
- Some of the College Republicans cited above

[Vrede too]

GOP billionaire promises $2 million for Hillary Clinton

Republicans not voting for Donald Trump

- Charles and David Koch
- Harvard University’s Republican Club
- Princeton College Republicans
- George Washington University (my birth place, represent!) College Republicans
- over three thousand signatories to a Wharton School of Business at the University of Pennsylvania (Trump’s alma mater) student letter
- Colin Powell
- Dallas Morning News. Historically, the Morning News has tilted conservative, mirroring Texas' drift to the Republican Party. It has not endorsed a Democrat for president since Franklin D. Roosevelt during World War II.
- Jacob Monty, an attorney based in Houston, resigned from the Republican candidate’s National Hispanic Advisory Council
- Alfonso Aguilar, the president of the Latino Partnership for Conservative Principles
- Maybe half of Trump’s Hispanic advisory board
- Massey Villarreal, a businessman in Houston
- Some of Public Faith
- Regina Thomson, Colorado Republican activist
- Free the Delegates
- NOVA Digital Films, a Virginia-based firm that lists a slew of conservative candidates and organizations as clients, including the Republican Party of Virginia, Americans for Prosperity, the anti-abortion Susan B. Anthony List and former gubernatorial candidate Ken Cuccinelli
- Ted "vote your conscience" Cruz
- The Republican Party
- Glenn Beck
- Ann Coulter? Probably not.
- Barbara Bush, former first lady
- Jeb Bush, former Florida governor, 2016 presidential candidate
- William Cohen, former secretary of defense
- Jeff Flake, Arizona senator
- Lindsey Graham, South Carolina senator, 2016 presidential candidate
- Larry Hogan, Maryland governor
- John Kasich, Ohio governor, 2016 presidential candidate
- Mark Kirk, Illinois senator
- Mitt Romney, former Massachusetts governor, 2012 Republican presidential nominee
- Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, Florida congresswoman
- Ben Sasse, Nebraska senator
- Mike Coffman, Republican congresswoman
- Charlie Dent, Pennsylvania congresswoman
- Vin Weber, former congresswoman, current GOP lobbyist
- Wadi Gaitan, prominent Latino official and chief spokesman for the Republican party in Florida
- Maine Senator Susan Collins (adjacent NH is a swing state)
- Kori Schake, served on President George W. Bush’s National Security Council and was an adviser to Arizona Sen. John McCain’s 2008 presidential campaign
- Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus, almost
- Joe Scarborough
- Evan McMullin, former CIA agent and Republican Congressional staff member, running as an independent
- Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, the most senior member of Florida’s congressional delegation
- Rep. Carlos Curbelo
- Ana Navarro, a GOP strategist and CNN contributor
- Philip Klein, the managing editor of the Washington Examiner
- Cheri Jacobus, GOP consultant and pundit
- Steve Deace, conservative fireband radio host
- Meghan McCain, daughter of 2008 Republican nominee John McCain
- Lachlan Markay, writer for the conservative website Washington Free Beacon
- Ryan Hart, worked on Capitol Hill for several Republican congressmen
- Erick Erickson, high-profile conservative writer and frequent cable news guest
- 50 Republican national security experts including:
--- Michael Hayden, former CIA director (Republican)
--- John Negroponte, first director of national intelligence and later deputy secretary of state
--- Robert B Zoellick, former deputy secretary of state
--- Tom Ridge, former secretary of homeland security
--- Michael Chertoff, former secretary of homeland security
- More than 120 prominent Republicans including three former Cabinet secretaries and six current or former members of Congress:
--- Virginia Rep. Scott Rigell
--- Wisconsin Rep. Reid Ribble
--- Former Sen. Gordon Humphrey of New Hampshire
--- Former Rep. Chris Shays of Connecticut
--- Former Rep. Tom Coleman of Missouri
--- Former Rep. Vin Weber of Minnesota
--- Andrew Weinstein, director of media relations for the Dole/Kemp presidential campaign and deputy press secretary to then-House Speaker Newt Gingrich
--- More than 20 former RNC staffers including:
------ Mindy Finn (former RNC chief digital strategist)
------ Christine Iverson Gunderson (former RNC press secretary)
------ Virginia Hume Onufer (former RNC deputy press secretary)
------ Beth Miller (former RNC field communications division director)
------ Heather Layman (former deputy press secretary)
------ B. Jay Cooper (former RNC communications director under four chairmen)
------ Patrick Ruffini (former RNC ecampaign director)

Republicans voting for Hillary Clinton

- Mike Fernandez, billionaire health-care magnate, major Republican donor from Florida and former Jeb Bush supporter
- George H.W. Bush
- Paul Wolfowitz, former deputy defence secretary, advisor to President George W. Bush
- Ricardo Reyes, former Deputy Assistant USTR for Public and Media Affairs, Media Surrogate for Bush/Cheney Presidential Campaign
- Charles Dunne, former Foreign Policy Adviser, former Director for Iraq, National Security Council
- Robert Manning, former Member of the Secretary of State's Office of Policy Planning
- Jennifer Sarver, former Bush Administration Official, former GOP Senate Staffer, former RNC Professional Volunteer
- Jim Magill, Chief Master Sergeant (ret.), US Air Force
- Mario Mangiameli, Captain US Marine Corps (Ret.) and former Counterterrorism & Law Enforcement Policy Advisor, US Department of Homeland Security
- Charles Badger, former Director of Coalitions for Jeb Bush 2016, former Director of Legislative Affairs (NJ-Department of Community Affairs, Christie Administration), former Hill staff
- David Meyers, former White House Assistant Staff Secretary and former Communications Advisor for the Senate Republican Leadership
- David Nierenberg, former Mitt Romney national finance chair
- Charles Fried, former Solicitor General
- Richard Painter, former Chief White House Ethics Lawyer
- Donna Barbisch, Major General (ret.) and former Director of Chemical and Biological Defense Program Integration
- Ken Adelman, former US Ambassador to the United Nations and former Arms Control Director
- Kurt Bardella, former advisor to Darrell Issa (R-CA) and former spokesman for Breitbart News
- Elizabeth Tamposi, former Assistant Secretary of State and former New Hampshire State Legislator
- Niki Christoff, former member of the policy staff of John McCain 2008
- James Clad, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Asia
- Patrick Cronin, former Assistant Administrator for Policy and Program Coordination, USAID
- James Filippatos, former Assistant Administrator for International Affairs, Federal Aviation Administration
- Jana Chapman Gates, former speechwriter, US Department of the Treasury
- Jean Geran, former member of the Secretary of State’s Office of Policy Planning
- Justin Kintz, former Special Assistant External Affairs, US Department of the Interior
- Frank Lavin, former White House Political Director, former US Ambassador to Singapore, former Under Secretary of Commerce for International Trade
- Phil Levy, former member of the Secretary of State’s Office of Policy Planning
- Peter Mansoor, Colonel, US Army (Ret.)
- Todd Moss, former Deputy Assistant Secretary, Bureau of African Affairs, US Department of State
- Andrew Sagor, former Special Assistant to the US Ambassador-at-Large for War Crimes Issues
- John Stubbs, former Senior Advisor USTR
- Colin Tooze, former Member of the Office of Rep. Chris Cox (R-CA)
- Dan Twining, former Member of the Secretary of State’s Office of Policy Planning
- John Veroneau, former Deputy USTR, former Assistant Secretary of Defense
- Davis White, former Member of the White House Office of Public Liaison
- James Glassman, served as the under secretary of state for public diplomacy and public affairs in the George W. Bush administration, voted for every Republican nominee for president since 1980
- Richard Armitage, former deputy secretary of state
- Hank Paulson, former treasury secretary
- Brent Scowcroft, former national security adviser
- Richard Hanna, New York congressman
- Meg Whitman, Republican finance official
- Adam Kinzinger, Illinois congressman
- Sally Bradshaw, GOP strategist
- Maria Comella, Chris Christie staffer
- Lezlee Westine, former aide to President George W Bush
- Carlos Gutierrez, the U.S. secretary of commerce under President George W. Bush and one of the highest-ranking Latino office holders ever
- conservative billionaire businessman and Gov. Jeb Bush backer Mike Fernandez
- Cindy Guerra, the former chair of Broward County, Florida’s Republican Executive Committee
- Ben Howe, contributing editor at conservative website Red State
- Mike Treiser, former staffer on Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign
- Mark Salter, former strategist for John McCain
- Joseph Shonkwiler, former Republican Senate staffer
- Some of the more than 120 prominent Republicans cited above
- Some of the 50 Republican national security experts cited above
- Some of the Republican Party cited above
- Some of Public Faith cited above
- Some of the con Hispanics cited above
- Some of the College Republicans cited above

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rstrong, I sent our list to the Hillary campaign, just in case they missed any.

Former ambassadors back Clinton in letter saying Trump ‘comforted our enemies’

Seventy-five former ambassadors, including 57 appointed by Republican presidents, released a letter Thursday endorsing Hillary Clinton and criticizing Donald Trump as “entirely unqualified” for the office....

But the diplomats said this election is different, with one candidate “unqualified” to serve in part because his rhetoric has “comforted our enemies.” They highlighted Trump’s praise and “admiration” for Russian President Vladimir Putin, as well as the mogul’s recent remark that U.S. generals have been “reduced to rubble” under President Obama....

Trump, they wrote, is “ignorant of the complex nature of the challenges facing our country, from Russia to China to ISIS to nuclear proliferation to refugees to drugs, but he has expressed no interest in being educated. In his frequent statements about foreign countries and their citizens, from our closest friends to our most problematic competitors, Mr. Trump has expressed the most ignorant stereotypes of those countries; has inflamed their people; and has insulted our allies and comforted our enemies.”

The letter comes a day after 15 retired generals and admirals released a video endorsing Clinton, part of a broader push by the Clinton campaign to make inroads among conservative voters turned off by Trump. The former secretary of state has been endorsed by 110 retired military officials ...

Ouch.



Trust Hillary to be Commander In Chief

Republicans not voting for Donald Trump

- Charles and David Koch
- Harvard University’s Republican Club
- Princeton College Republicans
- George Washington University (my birth place, represent!) College Republicans
- over three thousand signatories to a Wharton School of Business at the University of Pennsylvania (Trump’s alma mater) student letter
- Colin Powell
- Dallas Morning News. Historically, the Morning News has tilted conservative, mirroring Texas' drift to the Republican Party. It has not endorsed a Democrat for president since Franklin D. Roosevelt during World War II.
- Jacob Monty, an attorney based in Houston, resigned from the Republican candidate’s National Hispanic Advisory Council
- Alfonso Aguilar, the president of the Latino Partnership for Conservative Principles
- Maybe half of Trump’s Hispanic advisory board
- Massey Villarreal, a businessman in Houston
- Some of Public Faith
- Regina Thomson, Colorado Republican activist
- Free the Delegates
- NOVA Digital Films, a Virginia-based firm that lists a slew of conservative candidates and organizations as clients, including the Republican Party of Virginia, Americans for Prosperity, the anti-abortion Susan B. Anthony List and former gubernatorial candidate Ken Cuccinelli
- Ted "vote your conscience" Cruz
- Glenn Beck
- Ann Coulter? Probably not.
- Barbara Bush, former first lady
- Jeb Bush, former Florida governor, 2016 presidential candidate
- William Cohen, former secretary of defense
- Jeff Flake, Arizona senator
- Lindsey Graham, South Carolina senator, 2016 presidential candidate
- Larry Hogan, Maryland governor
- John Kasich, Ohio governor, 2016 presidential candidate
- Mark Kirk, Illinois senator
- Mitt Romney, former Massachusetts governor, 2012 Republican presidential nominee
- Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, Florida congresswoman
- Ben Sasse, Nebraska senator
- Mike Coffman, Republican congresswoman
- Charlie Dent, Pennsylvania congresswoman
- Vin Weber, former congresswoman, current GOP lobbyist
- Wadi Gaitan, prominent Latino official and chief spokesman for the Republican party in Florida
- Maine Senator Susan Collins (adjacent NH is a swing state)
- Kori Schake, served on President George W. Bush’s National Security Council and was an adviser to Arizona Sen. John McCain’s 2008 presidential campaign
- Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus, almost
- Joe Scarborough
- Evan McMullin, former CIA agent and Republican Congressional staff member, running as an independent
- Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, the most senior member of Florida’s congressional delegation
- Rep. Carlos Curbelo
- Ana Navarro, a GOP strategist and CNN contributor
- Philip Klein, the managing editor of the Washington Examiner
- Cheri Jacobus, GOP consultant and pundit
- Steve Deace, conservative fireband radio host
- Meghan McCain, daughter of 2008 Republican nominee John McCain
- Lachlan Markay, writer for the conservative website Washington Free Beacon
- Ryan Hart, worked on Capitol Hill for several Republican congressmen
- Erick Erickson, high-profile conservative writer and frequent cable news guest
- 50 Republican national security experts including:
--- Michael Hayden, former CIA director (Republican)
--- John Negroponte, first director of national intelligence and later deputy secretary of state
--- Robert B Zoellick, former deputy secretary of state
--- Tom Ridge, former secretary of homeland security
--- Michael Chertoff, former secretary of homeland security
- More than 120 prominent Republicans including three former Cabinet secretaries and six current or former members of Congress:
--- Virginia Rep. Scott Rigell
--- Wisconsin Rep. Reid Ribble
--- Former Sen. Gordon Humphrey of New Hampshire
--- Former Rep. Chris Shays of Connecticut
--- Former Rep. Tom Coleman of Missouri
--- Former Rep. Vin Weber of Minnesota
--- Andrew Weinstein, director of media relations for the Dole/Kemp presidential campaign and deputy press secretary to then-House Speaker Newt Gingrich
--- More than 20 former RNC staffers including:
------ Mindy Finn (former RNC chief digital strategist)
------ Christine Iverson Gunderson (former RNC press secretary)
------ Virginia Hume Onufer (former RNC deputy press secretary)
------ Beth Miller (former RNC field communications division director)
------ Heather Layman (former deputy press secretary)
------ B. Jay Cooper (former RNC communications director under four chairmen)
------ Patrick Ruffini (former RNC ecampaign director)

Republicans voting for Hillary Clinton

- Mike Fernandez, billionaire health-care magnate, major Republican donor from Florida and former Jeb Bush supporter
- George H.W. Bush
- Paul Wolfowitz, former deputy defence secretary, advisor to President George W. Bush
- Ricardo Reyes, former Deputy Assistant USTR for Public and Media Affairs, Media Surrogate for Bush/Cheney Presidential Campaign
- Charles Dunne, former Foreign Policy Adviser, former Director for Iraq, National Security Council
- Robert Manning, former Member of the Secretary of State's Office of Policy Planning
- Jennifer Sarver, former Bush Administration Official, former GOP Senate Staffer, former RNC Professional Volunteer
- Jim Magill, Chief Master Sergeant (ret.), US Air Force
- Mario Mangiameli, Captain US Marine Corps (Ret.) and former Counterterrorism & Law Enforcement Policy Advisor, US Department of Homeland Security
- Charles Badger, former Director of Coalitions for Jeb Bush 2016, former Director of Legislative Affairs (NJ-Department of Community Affairs, Christie Administration), former Hill staff
- David Meyers, former White House Assistant Staff Secretary and former Communications Advisor for the Senate Republican Leadership
- David Nierenberg, former Mitt Romney national finance chair
- Charles Fried, former Solicitor General
- Richard Painter, former Chief White House Ethics Lawyer
- Donna Barbisch, Major General (ret.) and former Director of Chemical and Biological Defense Program Integration
- Ken Adelman, former US Ambassador to the United Nations and former Arms Control Director
- Kurt Bardella, former advisor to Darrell Issa (R-CA) and former spokesman for Breitbart News
- Elizabeth Tamposi, former Assistant Secretary of State and former New Hampshire State Legislator
- Niki Christoff, former member of the policy staff of John McCain 2008
- James Clad, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Asia
- Patrick Cronin, former Assistant Administrator for Policy and Program Coordination, USAID
- James Filippatos, former Assistant Administrator for International Affairs, Federal Aviation Administration
- Jana Chapman Gates, former speechwriter, US Department of the Treasury
- Jean Geran, former member of the Secretary of State’s Office of Policy Planning
- Justin Kintz, former Special Assistant External Affairs, US Department of the Interior
- Frank Lavin, former White House Political Director, former US Ambassador to Singapore, former Under Secretary of Commerce for International Trade
- Phil Levy, former member of the Secretary of State’s Office of Policy Planning
- Peter Mansoor, Colonel, US Army (Ret.)
- Todd Moss, former Deputy Assistant Secretary, Bureau of African Affairs, US Department of State
- Andrew Sagor, former Special Assistant to the US Ambassador-at-Large for War Crimes Issues
- John Stubbs, former Senior Advisor USTR
- Colin Tooze, former Member of the Office of Rep. Chris Cox (R-CA)
- Dan Twining, former Member of the Secretary of State’s Office of Policy Planning
- John Veroneau, former Deputy USTR, former Assistant Secretary of Defense
- Davis White, former Member of the White House Office of Public Liaison
- James Glassman, served as the under secretary of state for public diplomacy and public affairs in the George W. Bush administration, voted for every Republican nominee for president since 1980
- Richard Armitage, former deputy secretary of state
- Hank Paulson, former treasury secretary
- Brent Scowcroft, former national security adviser
- Richard Hanna, New York congressman
- Meg Whitman, Republican finance official
- Adam Kinzinger, Illinois congressman
- Sally Bradshaw, GOP strategist
- Maria Comella, Chris Christie staffer
- Lezlee Westine, former aide to President George W Bush
- Carlos Gutierrez, the U.S. secretary of commerce under President George W. Bush and one of the highest-ranking Latino office holders ever
- conservative billionaire businessman and Gov. Jeb Bush backer Mike Fernandez
- Cindy Guerra, the former chair of Broward County, Florida’s Republican Executive Committee
- Ben Howe, contributing editor at conservative website Red State
- Mike Treiser, former staffer on Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign
- Mark Salter, former strategist for John McCain
- Joseph Shonkwiler, former Republican Senate staffer
- Some of the more than 120 prominent Republicans cited above
- Some of the 50 Republican national security experts cited above
- Some of Public Faith cited above
- Some of the con Hispanics cited above
- Some of the College Republicans cited above
- Some of the seventy-five former ambassadors voting for Hillary, including 57 appointed by Republican presidents, are Republicans
- Some of the 110 retired military officials voting for Hillary are Republicans

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rstrong, I sent our list to the Hillary campaign, just in case they missed any.

Cool! It would help to link to the thread, explaining that there are citations - and corresponding highlighted entries - spread across different posts.

Frankly I'd like to see the list sent to prominent Republicans not on the list, to let them know they're not alone if they come out of the closet.

The letter comes a day after 15 retired generals and admirals released a video endorsing Clinton, part of a broader push by the Clinton campaign to make inroads among conservative voters turned off by Trump. The former secretary of state has been endorsed by 110 retired military officials ...

Yes, an "It Gets Better" video helps too.

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Cool! It would help to link to the thread, explaining that there are citations - and corresponding highlighted entries - spread across different posts.

Too late, and if I sent a follow up there's no certainty that it would go to the same email clerk. If I get a direct reply, rather than just getting put on their general email list, I'll do it. If not, they can probably google the same things we found.

Frankly I'd like to see the list sent to prominent Republicans not on the list, to let them know they're not alone if they come out of the closet.

Can you think of a practical way to do that?

Yes, an "It Gets Better" video helps too.

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Frankly I'd like to see the list sent to prominent Republicans not on the list, to let them know they're not alone if they come out of the closet.

Can you think of a practical way to do that?

There must be some organization of Republicans opposing Trump. CPAC perhaps?

Yes, an "It Gets Better" video helps too.

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Republicans still in the closet regarding supporting Hillary over Trump.

Wikipedia: It Gets Better Project