Trayvon Martin

[neoplacebo]

I've said for over a year that George will die in prison. I am gonna stick with that. In any case, if he gets much bigger, he'll die of spontaneous combustion, which I've always been fascinated with.

[O Really]

I don't think he'll get killed in prison - at least not in retribution for what he did. If they send him to Stark, for most of the people there his crime would be pretty ho-hum. Now if he's loose, on the other hand...

[O Really]

Yep - here's what I thought he'd close with..

"Who started this? Who followed who? Who was minding their own business? Of the two, who was the one that was armed?" de la Rionda asked the jury.

[UnLurker]

Yep - here's what I thought he'd close with..

"Who started this? Who followed who? Who was minding their own business? Of the two, who was the one that was armed?" de la Rionda asked the jury.

The prosecutor did not prove his case on the first three questions. On who was armed, Martin should have considered that possibility before doubling back to assault that so called "creepy ass cracker".

As far as Zimmerman's self defense claim, anyone with intelligence knows that a fistfight can result in serious injuries and death. Even a single blow to the head can result in death in some cases. http://healthyliving.blog.ocregister.co ... you/35949/

Let's hope the jury is not stupid enough to buy anything that de la Rionda has said (or screamed ). Based on the evidence and testimony that we have all seen, there is no justice if Zimmerman is found guilty of any crime by this jury. The state failed miserably to prove its case for any offense and should be chastised for even bringing this to trial at all.

[UnLurker]

A slaver-lover's view:

The prosecutor did not prove his case on the first three questions. On who was armed, Martin should have considered that possibility

Not everyone, especially teens near the family home in the early evening, assume that people are as cowardly as GZ and Partisan62.

before doubling back to assault

Your belief as to who did the initial assaulting rests solely on the word of the proven liar, GZ. You are so gullible!

that so called "creepy ass cracker".

Could have been an unfair racial stereotype, turned out to be 100% accurate.

As far as Zimmerman's self defense claim, anyone with intelligence knows that a fistfight can result in serious injuries and death. Even a single blow to the head can result in death in some cases. http://healthyliving.blog.ocregister.co ... you/35949/

Partisan62 believes that it's legit for a person that caused a fistfight between relative physical equals to end it with a gun because in very rare cases death can occur. Yep, he is that kind of wuss, probably has had his butt kicked often after mouthing off.

...The state failed miserably to prove its case for any offense and should be chastised for even bringing this to trial at all.

GZ was charged by a con prosecutor appointed by con Jeb Bush.

What we do know is that Trayvon was where he was supposed to be and doing nothing wrong, that he was stalked by an armed, nosy, wannabe cop, and that GZ by his own admission stupidly, stupidly reached into his pocket while engaged in a verbal confrontation with a stranger, a clear signal for Trayvon to stand his ground.

Yes, the jury may get as confused as many are that all that matters is what happened after the confrontation became physical, however it did, but that doesn't change the fact that GZ was the adult who did everything wrong leading up to it and the result was a dead kid.

If some busybody is stalking me, I am going to verbally confront them. If they then reach into their pocket, I'm going to act before I find out too late whether it's a phone, knife or gun. Hopefully, I'll do so with more effectiveness than Trayvon did.

And there's the skank's view, lies all. So Zimmerman had no right to reach into his pocket or defend himself when confronted by the much larger Martin? Martin had the "right" to wander around the complex, but Zimmerman had none? "Busybody"? Zimmerman, a PERMANENT resident of Twin Lakes, has just as much right to be ANYWHERE in the public areas of that place (even more so) than the visitor Martin. And there's no proof that Zimmerman initiated the confrontation.

But skanks don't care about proof or reasonable doubt....to them it's all about catering to the racists on the left and to political correctness.

[UnLurker]

And there's the skank's

...But, that's easier for me to say than Partisan62 since, though I make mistakes which I rapidly correct, I'm not so dishonest as to intentionally lie here like Partisan62, the skank, did...

view, lies

Or, Partisan62 is just lying, we've seen that before.
http://www.blueridgedebate.com/viewtopi ... ame#p25881

all. So Zimmerman had no right to reach into his pocket

It was stupid of him to do so, no wonder you identify.

or defend himself

Your belief as to who was doing the defending rests solely on the word of the proven liar, GZ. You are so gullible!

when confronted by the much larger

Taller, "larger" is yet another Partisan62 lie.

Martin? Martin had the "right" to wander around the complex,

To the store and back. It's funny when you redefine things when you're floundering.

but Zimmerman had none?

He had the right to be a jerk and should have taken his lumps like a man when there were consequences.

"Busybody"? Zimmerman, a PERMANENT resident of Twin Lakes, has just as much right to be ANYWHERE in the public areas of that place (even more so)

Nope, the same rights and he was the busybody. It's funny when you redefine things when you're floundering.

than the visitor Martin. And there's no proof that Zimmerman initiated the confrontation.

Trayvon wasn't stalking GZ. There's no proof as to who initiated the physical confrontation. You've been posting your gullible belief in the words of the proven liar, GZ.

But skanks

...But, that's easier for me to say than Partisan62 since, though I make mistakes which I rapidly correct, I'm not so dishonest as to intentionally lie here like Partisan62, the skank, did...

don't care about proof

You sure don't, you just divert or run away when proven to be a liar.

or reasonable doubt....to them it's all about catering to the racists on the left and to political correctness.

Skanks like Partisan62 don't care about dead kids, just catering to racist, cowardly gunhuggers.

Proof, skank, proof....that's all you have to produce to keep yourself from looking like such an idiot. If you watched the same trial as the rest of us, and still came up with these idiotic conclusions, you really are so biased that you don't care about justice. Show us what happened in those missing four minutes or shut the hell up with your lies.

You're probably looking forward to rioting with the rest of the animals if Zimmerman is rightfully acquitted.

[neoplacebo]

I've seen some of the trial; I don't see it anything like you do. Dumbass. Saturday Night's All Right For Fighting. You bet'cha; your dumbass hero should have stayed in his car or gone home. I bet'cha he wishes it were so.....

[O Really]

If Zimmerman had claimed that when he encountered Martin that he said "excuse me, sir, do you need a ride?" I might listen to the rest of his pitch. But by his own comments he suspected Martin and fo.lowed him and called the cops on him. Then he got out of his car. How could anyone not conclude that Zimmerman initiated whatever the encounter was? Does anyone really believe, without even any claim by Zimmerman, that Zimmerman approached Martin in a peaceful or non-threatening manner?

[Cowboy]

Does anyone really believe, without even any claim by Zimmerman, that Zimmerman approached Martin in a peaceful or non-threatening manner?

The skank formerly known as UnLurker does.

[JTA]

Alright guys, now that the Zimmerman/Martin trial is over, what do you think the next trendy court case the media picks up on is going to be? I hope it's a murder case involving an evangelical illegal immigrant transgender who stood their ground against a white pro-life self avowed socialist who used to be black, just to throw some confusion into the ideological split of fans cheering from the sidelines for their man (woman?), and to make the media have their work cut out for them this time.

[UnLurker]

Strike three. I'm out.

[Ombudsman]

No one knows what happened in those missing four minutes and I have not said that I do, you illiterate whiner whining about "lies" that are just a movie in your head. Otoh, you have repeatedly claimed to know, solely because you're so gullible as to believe the proven liar, GZ. The one thing we can believe from GZ because it damns him is that GZ stupidly, stupidly reached into his pocket while engaged in a verbal confrontation with a stranger, a clear signal for Trayvon to stand his ground. So, either GZ threw the first punch and he's lying about not doing so or, following on GZ having done everything wrong until that point Trayvon rationally threw the first punch rather than wait to see if GZ, who did have a gun, was reaching for a phone, knife or gun.

S.S. Vrede sailing along on her sea of lies again (guess what S.S. stands for ). Anyone who thinks that reaching into one's pocket is grounds to be jumped and pummeled is desperately scratching for any excuse for this MAN (not a kid, but taller, muscular, MMA wannabe, delinquent) Trayvon Martin. That's how ridiculous the left is on this story....Hand in pocket=justification for Trayvon to administer a beatdown. However, potentially fatal beatdown while on ground does not equal grounds for Zimmerman to defend himself.

It is absurd to think that the smaller Zimmerman would initiate the confrontation instead of the taller, cocky, trash-talking, gangsta/MMA wannabe Martin. It is equally absurd that it was somehow out of line for a resident in a crime ridden neighborhood to watch for people who fit the description of the past criminals and see what they are doing, knowing the police can't do so constantly.

Justice was served. Now we'll see if any animals try to get revenge outside the system. Evidently that wouldn't surprise anyone...even Vrede thinks it might happen ("he'll now have to constantly look over his shoulder - finally something real to fear").

After all, the general assumption in media and the public that rioting would follow an acquittal supports Vrede's dark prediction, does it not?

The smaller Zimmerman? All he did was reach in his pocket? You really don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about do you?

[UnLurker]

Strike three. I'm out.

[UnLurker]

Strike three. I'm out.

[Boatrocker]

. . . Does anyone really believe, without even any claim by Zimmerman, that Zimmerman approached Martin in a peaceful or non-threatening manner?

No one but the racist gun huggers. It's quite simple: You can't pick a fight with an unarmed man, who's doing nothing wrong, get your ass kicked by that unarmed man, then shoot to kill and call it "self-defense." Whatever fight there was, Zimmerman started it. He did two things he was asked not to do: followed Martin and carried a gun while on his soi-disant "patrol." Had the cop-wannabe fucker simply stayed in his truck and kept his distance, none of this would've happened.
Manslaughter was committed.

[UnLurker]

Strike three. I'm out.

[Boatrocker]

. . . Does anyone really believe, without even any claim by Zimmerman, that Zimmerman approached Martin in a peaceful or non-threatening manner?

No one but the racist gun huggers. It's quite simple: You can't pick a fight with an unarmed man, who's doing nothing wrong, get your ass kicked by that unarmed man, then shoot to kill and call it "self-defense." Whatever fight there was, Zimmerman started it. He did two things he was asked not to do: followed Martin and carried a gun while on his soi-disant "patrol." Had the cop-wannabe fucker simply stayed in his truck and kept his distance, none of this would've happened.
Manslaughter was committed.

"If", "maybe", "perhaps" can be applied to most situations; do you want to equally apply it to Martin as well? If Trayvon had gone straight home, none of this would've happened. If he had avoided being a pothead in school, Trayvon would not have even been in Sandford, Florida at all that night. If Trayvon had been slightly less cocky by trying to beat up a stranger, none of this would have happened. There's enough history on both men in this tragedy to get a pretty good idea of who might have been the aggressor in the confrontation.

A jury, listening to the facts and reviewing the evidence, rightly has said that manslaughter was NOT committed.

And when stupid fuckers who think like that get on juries, well, you do the math. Trayvon Martin did nothing wrong. Zimmerman did everything wrong. People who defend him are asswipe scum.

[O Really]

"If", "maybe", "perhaps" can be applied to most situations; do you want to equally apply it to Martin as well? If Trayvon had gone straight home, none of this would've happened. If he had avoided being a pothead in school, Trayvon would not have even been in Sandford, Florida at all that night. If Trayvon had been slightly less cocky by trying to beat up a stranger, none of this would have happened. There's enough history on both men in this tragedy to get a pretty good idea of who might have been the aggressor in the confrontation.
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Yep. It's always the victim's fault. If that wench hadn't worn that short skirt to the bar she wouldn't have been raped. If the guy hadn't taken a lunch break he wouldn't have been run over in the street. Yeppers. Makes a lot of sense to me.

[UnLurker]

Strike three. I'm out.

[UnLurker]

Strike three. I'm out.