The Food Thread

[O Really]

"I could tell them it's really urine and not lose a vote."

[Vrede too]

... apple juice on the label, but urine in the jar.

may be the best description of trump - ever ...

"I could tell them it's really urine and not lose a vote."

It was urine on the label and urine in the jar, but Trumpettes liked that.

[neoplacebo]

I won't ever mention it again, but just consider what trump peanut butter might be.

[Vrede too]

https://act.nrdc.org/letter/wendys-anti ... 6%2EmZU1c3

Just say 'NO!'

[billy.pilgrim]

https://act.nrdc.org/letter/wendys-anti ... 6%2EmZU1c3

Just say 'NO!'

Better still, don't ever eat at chain restaurants. Support small, support local.

[neoplacebo]

Here in my hometown, I sometimes go to Nick's. They specialize in broasted chicken and have been in continuous operation since 1938 and in the same location for over fifty years. And they aren't expensive; on Sundays there is always a line to get in. Just a couple years ago they opened a second place in Johnson City.
http://www.nicksfamilydining.com/

[GoCubsGo]

Here in my hometown, I sometimes go to Nick's. They specialize in broasted chicken and have been in continuous operation since 1938 and in the same location for over fifty years. And they aren't expensive; on Sundays there is always a line to get in. Just a couple years ago they opened a second place in Johnson City.
http://www.nicksfamilydining.com/

Can you give me a definitive answer to what a "broasted" chicken is? Why aren't ant other foods broasted?

[billy.pilgrim]

Here in my hometown, I sometimes go to Nick's. They specialize in broasted chicken and have been in continuous operation since 1938 and in the same location for over fifty years. And they aren't expensive; on Sundays there is always a line to get in. Just a couple years ago they opened a second place in Johnson City.
http://www.nicksfamilydining.com/

Can you give me a definitive answer to what a "broasted" chicken is? Why aren't ant other foods broasted?

broast
/brōst/
Learn to pronounce
verbNORTH AMERICAN
past tense: broasted; past participle: broasted
prepare food using a cooking process that combines broiling and roasting.
"broasted chicken"


https://www.southernplate.com/broastedpotatoes/

Broasted Potatoes

[O Really]

Here in my hometown, I sometimes go to Nick's. They specialize in broasted chicken and have been in continuous operation since 1938 and in the same location for over fifty years. And they aren't expensive; on Sundays there is always a line to get in. Just a couple years ago they opened a second place in Johnson City.
http://www.nicksfamilydining.com/

Can you give me a definitive answer to what a "broasted" chicken is? Why aren't ant other foods broasted?

I real mid-westerner would seem likely to know that A brand name that got generalized...

“Broaster is actually a company started back in 1954,” said Jay Cipra, president and CEO of the Broaster Co. Cipra spoke by phone recently, along with Greg West, senior vice president of marketing and food innovation at Broaster. “The company was really based on an invention made by local businessman and inventor (Louis Austin Merritt “L.A.M.” Phelan) in Beloit, Wis.,” said Cipra. “He had a passion for fried chicken and came up with a contraption at the time that was a fryer and a pressure cooker. That was the first patent for a commercial pressure fryer.”

“What evolved shortly after he invented the pressure fryer was not only the equipment, but he came up with his own marinades and coatings. Those taste profiles are what we’re still using today as genuine Broaster chicken.”


https://www.chicagotribune.com/dining/c ... story.html

[Vrede too]

Better still, don't ever eat at chain restaurants. Support small, support local.

Agreed, but my guess is that chain restaurant choices have a huge impact on many small and local purchasing costs and options, other than small, local AND organic restaurants.

Here in my hometown, I sometimes go to Nick's. They specialize in broasted chicken and have been in continuous operation since 1938 and in the same location for over fifty years. And they aren't expensive; on Sundays there is always a line to get in. Just a couple years ago they opened a second place in Johnson City.
http://www.nicksfamilydining.com/

Sounds like ol' Nick is gettin' rather big for his britches.

[O Really]

It's all good as an individual to seek out the local eateries, but really, if everyone did it, they'd all become chains or crash and burn. How many times have you seen a great little restaurant ruined by becoming too popular? F'rinstance, does Tupelo Honey even count as a "local" place anymore if they are also in Boise?

Gracious food, Southern roots at Tupelo Honey
BY TUPELO HONEY APRIL 18, 2019 03:55 PM
A promotional video from Tupelo Honey, a restaurant chain that serves "scratch-made Southern food." Tupelo Honey plans to open a location in Downtown Boise at Main + Marketplace.

The "Maine Diner" used to be that sort of place where locals ate and the occasional tourist dropped in. Then it was out that it was the model for the diner in the comic "Non Sequitor" and then Fieri, et. al., and now you can't get near the place without standing on line for a long time.

I say enjoy the good local places while you can.

[Vrede too]

... F'rinstance, does Tupelo Honey even count as a "local" place anymore if they are also in Boise? ...

Boise is in Southern Idaho.

Stumbled on this:

Tupelo Honey is the fifth studio album by Northern Irish singer-songwriter Van Morrison.

Guess the Cultural Appropriation has been going on a long time.

[neoplacebo]

Here in my hometown, I sometimes go to Nick's. They specialize in broasted chicken and have been in continuous operation since 1938 and in the same location for over fifty years. And they aren't expensive; on Sundays there is always a line to get in. Just a couple years ago they opened a second place in Johnson City.
http://www.nicksfamilydining.com/

Can you give me a definitive answer to what a "broasted" chicken is? Why aren't ant other foods broasted?

Aside from the earlier explanations, I think it's actually a patented cooking process. Nicks also has the broasted potatoes that are like large french fries, about 1/8 the size of a whole baked potato. The cooking process imparts a distinctive flavor; it's good.

[billy.pilgrim]

It's all good as an individual to seek out the local eateries, but really, if everyone did it, they'd all become chains or crash and burn. How many times have you seen a great little restaurant ruined by becoming too popular? F'rinstance, does Tupelo Honey even count as a "local" place anymore if they are also in Boise?

Gracious food, Southern roots at Tupelo Honey
BY TUPELO HONEY APRIL 18, 2019 03:55 PM
A promotional video from Tupelo Honey, a restaurant chain that serves "scratch-made Southern food." Tupelo Honey plans to open a location in Downtown Boise at Main + Marketplace.

The "Maine Diner" used to be that sort of place where locals ate and the occasional tourist dropped in. Then it was out that it was the model for the diner in the comic "Non Sequitor" and then Fieri, et. al., and now you can't get near the place without standing on line for a long time.

I say enjoy the good local places while you can.

I quit when they open the 3rd location. There are more than enough small restaurants and stands, you just have to look a little harder. When traveling, I stop and ask around. We have had some really bad, but mostly good and some downright great.

Drive through the old downtown that the highway missed or a parallel road, anywhere that building rents and prices are 1/3 of what prices are on the main roads with the chain places.

[O Really]

Food trucks too. No longer deserving the term "roach coach." I've gotten some really great food from a truck in recent years.

[Vrede too]

The USA lags behind other countries in banning harmful pesticides

Would you be surprised if I told you that the United States uses a lot of agricultural pesticides that are banned in Europe? Maybe not. But what about pesticides that are banned in China? Or Brazil? ...

Abdication nation

What does it say when the country that once had the strongest pesticide laws in the world is now relying on the regulated industry to erase the worst pesticides from its roster? And what does all of this say about the industry that tells us we need to keep using these poisons on our food or face famine? If the most successful agricultural economies in the world are growing the same crops and dealing with many of the same pests we are without the use of these dangerous pesticides, then there is no good reason why we should continue using them in the United States.

In the 1970s, the EPA recognized the importance of banning the most dangerous, persistent pesticides that were still in use at the time. We all benefitted immensely. Now, 50 years later, there is broad scientific consensus that some of the pesticides once considered to be “safer alternatives” are too harmful to safely be used. As other nations are, to varying degrees, taking steps to get rid of the worst-of-the-worst pesticides, the United States is relying on the pesticide industry to regulate itself.

[neoplacebo]

The USA lags behind other countries in banning harmful pesticides

Would you be surprised if I told you that the United States uses a lot of agricultural pesticides that are banned in Europe? Maybe not. But what about pesticides that are banned in China? Or Brazil? ...

Abdication nation

What does it say when the country that once had the strongest pesticide laws in the world is now relying on the regulated industry to erase the worst pesticides from its roster? And what does all of this say about the industry that tells us we need to keep using these poisons on our food or face famine? If the most successful agricultural economies in the world are growing the same crops and dealing with many of the same pests we are without the use of these dangerous pesticides, then there is no good reason why we should continue using them in the United States.

In the 1970s, the EPA recognized the importance of banning the most dangerous, persistent pesticides that were still in use at the time. We all benefitted immensely. Now, 50 years later, there is broad scientific consensus that some of the pesticides once considered to be “safer alternatives” are too harmful to safely be used. As other nations are, to varying degrees, taking steps to get rid of the worst-of-the-worst pesticides, the United States is relying on the pesticide industry to regulate itself.

Well, the "good reason" we still use those chemicals is because of the corporate god Prophet. If those chemicals increase Prophet, the industrial scale farming and even small scale farming will use them. If they kill people or make them sick or disabled, Prophet rises above it and is not concerned with anything outside the realm of Prophet. Not long ago Monsanto was found to be liable for damages and or death to people using their Roundup weed killer that contains glyphosate or something like that. Prophet suffered a minor setback in the case but I expect He will recover nicely. Prophet usually finds a way to win one way or another. Meanwhile, all new dangerous chemicals are measured against the estimated Prophet that will accrue to the Propheteers.

[Vrede too]

Roundup: Carcinogenicity

... One international scientific organization, the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC), affiliated with the WHO, has made claims of carcinogenicity in research reviews; in 2015 the IARC declared glyphosate "probably carcinogenic."

Disputed by many others.

Legal

In the ten months following Bayer's June 2018 acquisition of Monsanto, its stock lost 46% of its value because of investor apprehension concerning the 11,200 lawsuits filed against its subsidiary.

Cancer cases ...

3 adverse verdicts for Monsanto/Bayer now:
"10 August 2018 ... $289 million in damages (later cut to $78 million on appeal)"
"March 2019, a man was awarded $80 million ... resulting in Costco stores discontinuing sales"
"On 13 May 2019 ... $2 billion in damages"

[O Really]

If I understand the cases (not necessarily a given), all the winning plaintiffs had serious health conditions, but were exposed over time to far more Roundup than most typical users. Kinda like the rats they kill by feeding/shooting them up with more of a substance than anybody is likely to be exposed to.

[Vrede too]

If I understand the cases (not necessarily a given), all the winning plaintiffs had serious health conditions, but were exposed over time to far more Roundup than most typical users. Kinda like the rats they kill by feeding/shooting them up with more of a substance than anybody is likely to be exposed to.

It's been in our news lately, but Roundup (glyphosate) is not mentioned in the 1st article I linked. Apparently there are other pesticides that the author and/or the other nations he's looking at deem much worse.

Nathan Donley

Nathan Donley is a former cancer researcher at Oregon Health and Sciences University in Portland, Oregon. He is now a senior scientist at the Center for Biological Diversity where he studies pesticide regulation and policy.

Could be they come with better warnings and/or their use is not as widespread.