O Really wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:57 pm
Vrede too wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 7:46 pm
The Dems are shredding Putin's Agent Orange.
I get that they're trying to make 45SHOLE look as bad as possible, and should, but it's still hard to listen to them praise VP Q-tip for not repeating the Big Lie on 1/6, for doing his OBVIOUS constitutional duty, and for arranging for the National Guard while former PINO was still cheering the traitors, something our govt has known to do since 1812. We should never ever forget that VP Q-tip is complicit slime, even if he did the minimum correct on 1/6/21.
All true, but I think it's good to draw a clear distinction and comparison to what a real President should have done.
I get that and I'm not saying that it's a wrong tactic for the Dems, but it's still distasteful. This also:
Democrats Stress That Only Trump, Not GOP Senators, Deserves Blame For Riot
The House impeachment managers are even praising senators’ bravery.
Personally, I blame and will always blame the sycophant Repug senators, too.
As they make their case that former President Donald Trump used false claims of a “rigged election” to incite a mob against Congress, House Democrats are excusing the Republican senators who raised similar doubts about the 2020 vote.
GOP senators led by Josh Hawley (Mo.) and Ted Cruz (Texas) hyped Trump’s baseless fraud claims and, days before Congress was set to certify the election results on Jan. 6, announced that they would object to the results from key states that Democrat Joe Biden carried. Hawley even suggested Congress could determine the next president that day as Trump encouraged his supporters to come to Washington and “stop the steal.”
... But Hawley and Cruz raised the same bogus fraud claims that the ex-president did. They usually did so in a more refined manner, such as by lamenting the unfounded concerns of their constituents and calling for an investigation ― and possible alteration of certain results ― instead of saying outright that the election had been stolen. And no debate about those results, necessitating separate votes in the House and Senate, would have occurred without a senator’s objection that day.
Hawley, as he entered the Capitol on Jan. 6, even raised his fist to Trump supporters massed outside the building before they stormed in.
All 100 members of the Senate are jurors in the impeachment trial, so Democrats want to avoid alienating any of them, even if many Republicans have already made clear they will acquit Trump, no matter what.
Former PINO will still be acquitted and he'll never be elected again either way. It's these treasonous senators that we'll be dealing with for years to come.
During Trump’s first impeachment trial over his prodding of Ukraine’s president to smear Biden, Republican senators showed they would take great offense to any slight, as they did during the January 2020 proceedings when then-impeachment manager Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) claimed, based on an unverified report, that Trump had threatened them.
“The whole room was visibly upset on our side of it,” Sen. James Lankford (R-Okla.) said then.
Unpatriotic cowards don't like being called cowards, awww.
On Wednesday, impeachment manager Rep. Joe Neguse (D-Colo.) lauded the bravery of senators who returned to their desks and voted to certify the election just hours after the mob ransacked the chamber.
“The president was not successful in stopping the certification… thanks to the bravery of our law enforcement and to the bravery of the senators in this room,” Neguse said. “Each of you who still fulfilled your constitutional duty, even under the threat of mortal peril.”
Valid point, but it doesn't excuse everything they did and didn't do prior to the riot.
Neguse was too polite and politic to mention that Hawley, Cruz and six other Republican senators still voted to object to the election results, siding with Trump and his mob.
Repug assholes.