Cawthorn

[Ulysses]

What about this is so hard to grasp?

“In the end, that ‘savings’ to list a home yourself doesn’t usually save you any money,” Nelson says. “In fact, it can cost you in terms of time, stress, and often a lower price for your home.”

Written by realtors for idiots.

You're a realtors dream.

I'm exiting this conversation, the stupid is giving me a headache.

The question really should be, why does Buttslug hate realtors?

[O Really]

The "conventional wisdom" of selling/buying doesn't really apply when dumpette shacks are selling for $100K over asking price with no conditions, no inspection, and for cash. If I had an over-priced house in this market, I'd do a self-sell, but hire a real estate agent for specific tasks on a fee basis. In any case, nobody would pay a 10% commission unless they had a total piece of crap property in a place nobody wants to live. North American Van Lines average cost to move from California to North Carolina is about $5,800. Maybe more to move some old cars and a bunch of equipment, but nowhere near $30K.

But none of that matters, because nobody is trying to convince you to move and you don't really want to move. All I'm saying is that your constant negativity about the places where forum members live is badly misplaced and tiresome. I, and maybe others may have been less than complimentary about Oakland and its teams, but as you've said, you don't live in Oakland.

[Vrede too]

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The question really should be, why are you still here?

(signature: obsessed butthurt )

Awww. , Useless. So much for "Ignored". You fail again. Plus, Useless, you've been busted too many times for anyone to believe you're not reading my posts, anyhow. It's just your excuse for cowering. Awww.

[Ulysses]

The "conventional wisdom" of selling/buying doesn't really apply when dumpette shacks are selling for $100K over asking price with no conditions, no inspection, and for cash. If I had an over-priced house in this market, I'd do a self-sell, but hire a real estate agent for specific tasks on a fee basis. In any case, nobody would pay a 10% commission unless they had a total piece of crap property in a place nobody wants to live. North American Van Lines average cost to move from California to North Carolina is about $5,800. Maybe more to move some old cars and a bunch of equipment, but nowhere near $30K.

But none of that matters, because nobody is trying to convince you to move and you don't really want to move. All I'm saying is that your constant negativity about the places where forum members live is badly misplaced and tiresome. I, and maybe others may have been less than complimentary about Oakland and its teams, but as you've said, you don't live in Oakland.

OK, so I'm not a realtor and this is the only property I've ever bought. So I don't pretend to be an expert, but I know enough to know that it's important to avoid costly mistakes when buying or selling property.

As for my "constant negativity about the places where forum members live", what have I stated to show that? Aside from describing places as "Podunk", I haven't applied that to any spot where anyone here lives. And in fact I've been upbraided for not knowing where each one of you lives. I don't know because I don't really care. But people like Billy have gone ballistic with their criticism of my state of birth. Why is that?

Perhaps I haven't been sensitive enough to the chip on people's shoulders about their current residences? If I don't know where everyone lives then I cannot see how I am to blame for that, either.

As for my own residence, I don't need to sell, I don't plan to sell, I don't want to sell.

[billy.pilgrim]

The "conventional wisdom" of selling/buying doesn't really apply when dumpette shacks are selling for $100K over asking price with no conditions, no inspection, and for cash. If I had an over-priced house in this market, I'd do a self-sell, but hire a real estate agent for specific tasks on a fee basis. In any case, nobody would pay a 10% commission unless they had a total piece of crap property in a place nobody wants to live. North American Van Lines average cost to move from California to North Carolina is about $5,800. Maybe more to move some old cars and a bunch of equipment, but nowhere near $30K.

But none of that matters, because nobody is trying to convince you to move and you don't really want to move. All I'm saying is that your constant negativity about the places where forum members live is badly misplaced and tiresome. I, and maybe others may have been less than complimentary about Oakland and its teams, but as you've said, you don't live in Oakland.

OK, so I'm not a realtor and this is the only property I've ever bought. So I don't pretend to be an expert, but I know enough to know that it's important to avoid costly mistakes when buying or selling property.

As for my "constant negativity about the places where forum members live", what have I stated to show that? Aside from describing places as "Podunk", I haven't applied that to any spot where anyone here lives. And in fact I've been upbraided for not knowing where each one of you lives. I don't know because I don't really care. But people like Billy have gone ballistic with their criticism of my state of birth. Why is that?

Perhaps I haven't been sensitive enough to the chip on people's shoulders about their current residences? If I don't know where everyone lives then I cannot see how I am to blame for that, either.

As for my own residence, I don't need to sell, I don't plan to sell, I don't want to sell.

Then stop talking on and on about how much your fictitious property is worth.

[Vrede too]

What makes you think I have a problem with where anyone here lives? ...

You even started an entire thread in order to disparage where we live and foolishly boast about where you live. When both sides of that equation were challenged you cowered.

Why are you so stupid as to lie about things we all know about you? You do it a lot.

Cower, Useless, cower.

Cause he's freaking stupid.

The stupid comes from those with unusually thin skins who think everything about them is intended to be an insult.

We ALL saw it, hence O Really's calling you out on it, and we ALL have superior comprehension to yours.

He's not going to ever learn or change.

He's on an island and apparently prefers it that way.

Maybe his nickname should be Hopeless.

Cower, Useless, cower.

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Riiiight, we're all inventing it and you're a poor innocent victim.

[billy.pilgrim]

What about this is so hard to grasp?

“In the end, that ‘savings’ to list a home yourself doesn’t usually save you any money,” Nelson says. “In fact, it can cost you in terms of time, stress, and often a lower price for your home.”

Written by realtors for idiots.

You're a realtors dream.

I'm exiting this conversation, the stupid is giving me a headache.

The question really should be, why does Buttslug hate realtors?

I doubt that he does, but he's smart enough to recognize that there might be some conflict of interest in a Realtor's opinion. Oh, and it’s a made up word and capitalized.

Did you also listen to the paint industry when they said that lead in paint wasn't harmful?

Did you also listen to the oil industry when they said that lead in gasoline wasn't harmful?

Did you also listen to the tobacco industry when they said that cigarettes weren't harmful?

Is Dick Cheney your go to source for fracking info?

Or maybe trump for the dangers of windmills?

As to your newly found defense of Realtors, you have been advised more than once to seek out professional advice if you want to know what your house is worth and throw out the Zillow garbage. It's pretty simple to understand that Zillow works only in subdivisions where all the homes are similar. You say your property is in an area of mixed use; therefore, you're an idiot for using Zillow.

[Vrede too]

I'll run if Meadows will lend me his single-wide address, or maybe they'll believe "Oceanside" is somewhere in the mountains.

Welcome, roommate!


SE Cupp: This is what it took to embarrass Republicans

[O Really]

Plus as you well know, California has a cap on increases of property taxes. I figure I'm currently paying about 1/3 of what I would pay without the benefit of Prop 13. What are property taxes in NC for a $750,000 home?

Average in California is .73; NC is .77. No reason you should know that or need to know it - or care. Except - arguments based on faulty assumptions usually fail.

[O Really]

Dupe - sorry.

[GoCubsGo]

Plus as you well know, California has a cap on increases of property taxes. I figure I'm currently paying about 1/3 of what I would pay without the benefit of Prop 13. What are property taxes in NC for a $750,000 home?

Average in California is .73; NC is .77. No reason you should know that or need to know it - or care. Except - arguments based on faulty assumptions usually fail.

Especially as assessed value and market value are rarely in alignment, in my former area they could be off by as much as half.

[O Really]

Yeah, and in comparing one place to another, the tax rate isn't as important as the property valuation. The amount of property tax in California is high despite the controlled low rate because the property values are so inflated. A house such as Ulysses has described his would be valued at half or less most other places, and thus a resulting lower tax amount even with the same rate. There are a lot of taxes and fees in California, but the amount of taxes is usually way overstated and depends and varies a lot by individual. F'rinstance the vaunted "highest income tax in the nation" max 13% really only applies to the highest earners and most people pay way less. The California state sales tax is 6%, same as Florida, and the county add-on varies from 1-1.7%, depending on where one lives. Gas tax is .53, third only to Pennsylvania and Washington, but there are other environmental impact fees associated, plus the cost of having no interstate pipeline and "importing" the gas. And then there's the "phantom tax" that isn't really a tax but is about 50 cents just because the companies can. Smoke and mirrors.

[GoCubsGo]

Yeah, and in comparing one place to another, the tax rate isn't as important as the property valuation. The amount of property tax in California is high despite the controlled low rate because the property values are so inflated. A house such as Ulysses has described his would be valued at half or less most other places, and thus a resulting lower tax amount even with the same rate. There are a lot of taxes and fees in California, but the amount of taxes is usually way overstated and depends and varies a lot by individual. F'rinstance the vaunted "highest income tax in the nation" max 13% really only applies to the highest earners and most people pay way less. The California state sales tax is 6%, same as Florida, and the county add-on varies from 1-1.7%, depending on where one lives. Gas tax is .53, third only to Pennsylvania and Washington, but there are other environmental impact fees associated, plus the cost of having no interstate pipeline and "importing" the gas. And then there's the "phantom tax" that isn't really a tax but is about 50 cents just because the companies can. Smoke and mirrors.

It always cracked me up when county commissioners and city council types would shout loudly "we lowered taxes" by lowering the millage rate after a reassessment that raised values with a net zero effect on my checkbook.

[Ulysses]

One problem in California, as I understand it, is that when a house is sold, the property valuation for the purposes of tax assessment reverts to the sale price. The one exception is for some (seniors?) they can carry their old property assessment from their old house to a new (less expensive) house, without change, at least within the same county or nearby counties. I think. Not really sure, and I haven't looked into it deeply because I'm not interested in selling this dump mansion.

[Ulysses]

Yeah, and in comparing one place to another, the tax rate isn't as important as the property valuation. The amount of property tax in California is high despite the controlled low rate because the property values are so inflated. A house such as Ulysses has described his would be valued at half or less most other places, and thus a resulting lower tax amount even with the same rate. There are a lot of taxes and fees in California, but the amount of taxes is usually way overstated and depends and varies a lot by individual. F'rinstance the vaunted "highest income tax in the nation" max 13% really only applies to the highest earners and most people pay way less. The California state sales tax is 6%, same as Florida, and the county add-on varies from 1-1.7%, depending on where one lives. Gas tax is .53, third only to Pennsylvania and Washington, but there are other environmental impact fees associated, plus the cost of having no interstate pipeline and "importing" the gas. And then there's the "phantom tax" that isn't really a tax but is about 50 cents just because the companies can. Smoke and mirrors.

All perhaps true. But you left out the key reason for the Jarvis/Gann initiative of the 70's: property taxes are capped at increasing no more than 2% per year (might be 1%) regardless of actual property value increases. I believe during the Great Recession they actually in some cases went down. This is a big benefit to seniors (now such as myself) who intend to stay in their homes indefinitely, and won't have such a crushing tax burden to make it more difficult.

[billy.pilgrim]

Yeah, and in comparing one place to another, the tax rate isn't as important as the property valuation. The amount of property tax in California is high despite the controlled low rate because the property values are so inflated. A house such as Ulysses has described his would be valued at half or less most other places, and thus a resulting lower tax amount even with the same rate. There are a lot of taxes and fees in California, but the amount of taxes is usually way overstated and depends and varies a lot by individual. F'rinstance the vaunted "highest income tax in the nation" max 13% really only applies to the highest earners and most people pay way less. The California state sales tax is 6%, same as Florida, and the county add-on varies from 1-1.7%, depending on where one lives. Gas tax is .53, third only to Pennsylvania and Washington, but there are other environmental impact fees associated, plus the cost of having no interstate pipeline and "importing" the gas. And then there's the "phantom tax" that isn't really a tax but is about 50 cents just because the companies can. Smoke and mirrors.

All perhaps true. But you left out the key reason for the Jarvis/Gann initiative of the 70's: property taxes are capped at increasing no more than 2% per year (might be 1%) regardless of actual property value increases. I believe during the Great Recession they actually in some cases went down. This is a big benefit to seniors (now such as myself) who intend to stay in their homes indefinitely, and won't have such a crushing tax burden to make it more difficult.

Only if comparing similar properties. People who are downsizing, or moving to lower tax districts or moving to a similar property in a lower cost area. There are lots of places where you could buy everything you have now and pay less tax. Location, location, location

[GoCubsGo]

Oh good, I've missed Tina Fey.

[Vrede too]

Cawthorn in response to controversy over podcast comments: ‘Human nature is fallen’

Rep. Madison Cawthorn (R-N.C.) did not appear to back down from controversial comments he made on a podcast last month, saying in a statement released on Friday that he was “calling out corruption.”

“Corruption and unethical activities exist in Washington. It’s an indisputable fact. If you don’t think that’s true, you’ve not witnessed the Swamp,” Cawthorn wrote. “My comments on a recent podcast appearance calling out corruption have been used by the left and the media to disparage my Republican colleagues and falsely insinuate their involvement in illicit activities.”

Riiight, like Dems are tripping over each other to do coke and orgy with him.

The North Carolina Republican claimed that Democrats and the media wanted to use his controversial remarks to splinter his party.

“The culture in Washington is corrupt. Human nature is fallen. Compromising activities occur because when other people can place you in compromising positions, they control you,” he said, without specifying who or what he was referring to....

I guess McCarthy and other RepuQs that are rebuking him are gullible idiots. Hard to argue with that.

[Vrede too]

(GoCubsGo-obsessed gibberish)

... As to your newly found defense of Realtors, you have been advised more than once to seek out professional advice if you want to know what your house is worth and throw out the Zillow garbage. It's pretty simple to understand that Zillow works only in subdivisions where all the homes are similar. You say your property is in an area of mixed use; therefore, you're an idiot for using Zillow.

You're telling Useless that Zillow is useless? That's funny.

[neoplacebo]

The Zillow info on the two houses I've owned in NC is accurate. That in itself is not a blanket endorsement of them. But even if just the price history is there, that's bringing it up above useless level.