2020 Elections

[O Really]

All the more reason to keep jobs in America.

Have you always been so stupid or did you have to work on it and cultivate it over time? Have you ever thought of killing yourself? "Keeping jobs in America" has nothing to do with what I posted.

No surprise there. But on that topic, I'd like to "keep jobs in America" too, but how would you do that by relying on the companies who are always ready to go to/buy from whatever poverty-ridden place they can go to save a few bucks on labor. If anyone can come up with an idea to "keep jobs in America" without federal intervention in the process, let's hear it.

[Vrede too]

It is pansy 1 FAT CAN's desperate deflection when you busted him on what Sanders and lefties are really saying, neoplacebo. To sustain such a level of stupid I think it takes genetics, environment and effort. I would be thrilled to have her/him investigate a crime I committed, but it would suck to be a crime victim and have her/him on the case.

No surprise there. But on that topic, I'd like to "keep jobs in America" too, but how would you do that by relying on the companies who are always ready to go to/buy from whatever poverty-ridden place they can go to save a few bucks on labor. If anyone can come up with an idea to "keep jobs in America" without federal intervention in the process, let's hear it.

How about anti-intervention federal action? End the direct and indirect subsidies for fossil fuels, thus allowing renewables to compete on a level playing field and creating far more American jobs per unit of energy delivered.

[1 CAT FAN]

I would be thrilled to have her/him investigate a crime I committed, but it would suck to be a crime victim and have her/him on the case.

No one would know you're missing, not even the google.

[Vrede too]

[O Really]

How about anti-intervention federal action? End the direct and indirect subsidies for fossil fuels, thus allowing renewables to compete on a level playing field and creating far more American jobs per unit of energy delivered.

Sure, fine for the energy industry, but it would do little for all the other industries that have migrated to China or wherever. What has worked well is to get foreign companies to do business in the US, like SC has done with Michelin, BMW, etc. If you're holding a job in America, it's an "American job" no matter where the company is headquartered.

[1 CAT FAN]

DNC chair to Booker: We set a "frankly low bar" to promote diversity, you know
https://www.thewashingtoninsider.com/dn ... -you-know/

[Vrede too]

Sure, fine for the energy industry, but it would do little for all the other industries that have migrated to China or wherever. What has worked well is to get foreign companies to do business in the US, like SC has done with Michelin, BMW, etc. If you're holding a job in America, it's an "American job" no matter where the company is headquartered.

I guess it's federal intervention, though not directly in industry, to enact single-payer healthcare. This would remove a huge burden for US businesses, thus in theory allowing them to compete more effectively with the rest of the world.

Those SC plants come thanks to massive state, though mostly not federal, subsidies.

The feds can also remove the de facto subsidies for outsourcing in tax policy, another anti-intervention step.

But, that's all just trying to respond to your challenge. Unlike knee jerk dogmatic and self-defeating cons, I have no problem in principle with federal intervention.

[1 CAT FAN]

China

China has agreed to buy hundreds of billions of dollars worth of products from the United States
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/16/business ... index.html

[neoplacebo]

All the more reason to keep jobs in America.

Have you always been so stupid or did you have to work on it and cultivate it over time? Have you ever thought of killing yourself? "Keeping jobs in America" has nothing to do with what I posted.

No surprise there. But on that topic, I'd like to "keep jobs in America" too, but how would you do that by relying on the companies who are always ready to go to/buy from whatever poverty-ridden place they can go to save a few bucks on labor. If anyone can come up with an idea to "keep jobs in America" without federal intervention in the process, let's hear it.

Corporate America has been selling out the American worker for about 50 years. Remember when clothes and furniture and televisions and stoves and refrigerators and washing machines and dryers and a lot of other things were made in the USA? Kids today have no concept of that. I remember when "made in Japan" automatically meant "junk." The time and chance to "keep jobs here" is long past. trump bleated and squawked that he was going to do just that, and he's even said he has done that, but he hasn't. And his mindless cult followers actually believe him. The boat for the American worker sailed a long time ago and it's not coming back. Anybody notice how so so many jobs "came back" after the latest massive infusion of corporate welfare? Me either.

[neoplacebo]

China

China has agreed to buy hundreds of billions of dollars worth of products from the United States
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/16/business ... index.html

Idiot; China has been doing that for decades.....but we buy more from them than they do from us. Do some research before making yourself look stupid. Google "US exports to China by year" and you will learn something; your brain must have a lot of free space. Use it for something other than being a gullible cult member.

[neoplacebo]

Sure, fine for the energy industry, but it would do little for all the other industries that have migrated to China or wherever. What has worked well is to get foreign companies to do business in the US, like SC has done with Michelin, BMW, etc. If you're holding a job in America, it's an "American job" no matter where the company is headquartered.

I guess it's federal intervention, though not directly in industry, to enact single-payer healthcare. This would remove a huge burden for US businesses, thus in theory allowing them to compete more effectively with the rest of the world.

Those SC plants come thanks to massive state, though mostly not federal, subsidies.

The feds can also remove the de facto subsidies for outsourcing in tax policy, another anti-intervention step.

But, that's all just trying to respond to your challenge. Unlike knee jerk dogmatic and self-defeating cons, I have no problem in principle with federal intervention.

The VW plant here in TN is another example. And here's another example of how "rightists" fight AGAINST the American worker. TN politicians squawked and quacked all over the place when the possibility of the VW works being unionized came up. They did everything in their power to prevent that. Yet they totally disregard the fact that the German car companies in Germany are heavily unionized, especially Mercedes. And fools like the cat fan cheer on "rightists" because they're so gullible they believe anything they're told without using any sense that they may have. Hilarious. Once again. "rightists" fight hard AGAINST the American worker and have convinced a lot of them that the opposite is true. You can't fix stupid; all you can do is try to draw them a picture and most of the time even that fails. sad

[Vrede too]

Making China Great Again. 1 FAT CAN's own link:

... Beijing's pledges go further than China has in the past, but the agreement doesn't require the government to change any laws or regulations.

And China still didn't give ground on some of the most important issues for America, such as demands for cuts to state subsidies that could trigger a fundamental overhaul of how the Chinese economy works. That is among several sticking points that the two sides are expected to discuss for the next phase of the agreement.
For now, the deal is expected to bring some relief to Chinese manufacturers, who have suffered from tariffs that made their goods more expensive. It also lifts some of the uncertainty that had been clouding companies' decisions to invest in China.

Additionally, the agreement fits neatly into one of Beijing's key goals: to diversify its economy and reform its financial system. China's central bank said in a statement Thursday that the deal would help it continue to open up the country's financial sector....

Opps.

[neoplacebo]

Opps; the cat fan will still be stupid even if beaten severely with an intelligence baton.

[1 CAT FAN]

China

China has agreed to buy hundreds of billions of dollars worth of products from the United States
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/16/business ... index.html

China has been doing that for decades.....but we buy more from them than they do from us.

In July 2019, Sun Valley Rice won a contract with a Chinese importer, making it the first US rice producer to sell rice to China.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/31/success/ ... index.html

China will import American rice for the first time
https://money.cnn.com/2017/07/21/news/c ... index.html

CNN associated journalist reports are so vague, what year did America actually sell China rice.

[O Really]

More on the "great" deal...

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-51025464

[Vrede too]

More on the "great" deal...

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-51025464

Thanks.

US-China trade deal: Winners and losers

...

Winner: Donald Trump ...

Winner: President Xi Jinping ...

Loser: American companies and consumers ...

Loser: Farmers and manufacturers ...

Winners: Taiwan/Vietnam/Mexico ...

Loser: Washington China critics ...

Trumpette cultists like ovine 1 FAT CAN only care about #1, couldn't give a shit about #3, #4 & #6, and are too dense to see the irony in #2 & #5.

[Vrede too]

http://www.blueridgedebate.com/forum/vi ... 66#p108766

Pretty good chance that it will be Senator Jeff Sessions this time next year.
https://www.bamapolitics.com/36833/jeff ... -new-poll/

banni, we need a 'kill me now' emoji.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbVIHfhXAvc

New Approval Ratings Released For Senators Richard Shelby and Doug Jones

According to a new survey by Morning Consult, Alabama’s senior Senator, Richard Shelby holds a 46 percent approval rating and a 26 percent disapproval rating for a net approval of 17 points. Alabama’s junior Senator, Doug Jones holds a 41 percent approval rating and a 36 percent disapproval rating for a net approval of five points.

Not good enough? Up for 2020 election.

According to the survey, the Senators with the highest approval ratings are:

1. Bernie Sanders, I-Vermont

2. John Barrasso, R-Wyoming

3. Patrick Leahy, D-Vermont

4. Mike Enzi, R-Wyoming Retiring, but a Repug will win.

5. Angus King, I-Maine

6. John Hoeven, R-North Dakota

7. Amy Klobuchar, D-Minnesota No wonder she's still in the POTUS race. VP material?

8. Jack Reed, D-Rhode Island Up for 2020 election. No Democratic primary opposition yet. Filing deadline: June 24, 2020.

9. Chris Coons, D-Delaware Up for 2020 election, has not announced. Filing deadline: July 14, 2020. A Dem will likely win.

10. John Thune, R-South Dakota

The Senators with the lowest approval ratings are:

1. Susan Collins, R-Maine Up for 2020 election.

2. Mitch McConnell, R-Kentucky Up for 2020 election.

3. Joni Ernst, R-Iowa Up for 2020 election.

4. Lisa Murkowski, R-Arkansas Alaska.

5. Bob Menendez, D-New Jersey Semi-disgraced, but not up for election until 2024.

6. Cory Gardner, R-Colorado Up for 2020 election.

7. Martha McSally, R-Arizona Up for 2020 election.

8. Deb Fischer, R-Nebraska

9. Elizabeth Warren, D-Massachusetts

10. Rand Paul, R-Kentucky

Damn, that looks pretty good on paper. Some major handicapper just declared the Senate "in play".

[Vrede too]

Hmmmm, is Hillary right?

Griping about a POSSIBLE 3rd party run is one thing, blaming the Russians without hard evidence is another. Then, the question is whether Hillary made it more or less likely that Gabbard will go for it.

That was actually misquoted, she was saying Republicans, our distinction without a difference.

Ah, I thought you were joking. Who did that massive screw up? Lots of supposedly informed people scolded her for "Russians".

That would be the Gray Lady, the New York Times, formerly printing "all the news that's fit to print" and now far fallen from its former position of journalistic grandeur.

Wow, that's a YUUUGE typo.

And really, some of the "supposedly informed people" were likely just taking advantage of an easy excuse for Hillary-bashing and didn't bother to verify anything.

I meant prominent Dems, but can't remember if they are ones that are otherwise favorable towards Hillary.

Apparently, the dispute is not over, nor are the facts certain. It's Clinton spokesman Nick Merrill that "subsequently tweeted that Clinton’s comments were being misreported and said she was referring to the Republican Party grooming Gabbard to be a third-party candidate—not the Russians."

Tulsi Gabbard Files $50M Lawsuit Against Hillary Clinton for ‘Russian Asset’ Claim

Idk if the NYT has weighed in on the factual discrepancy.

Not sure if it's exactly intentional, but Hillary is being the classic moderate establishment Dem - this earlier attack on con Tulsi, and going after progressive Bernie! this week. I think she should hang out with her grandkids and STFU.

[neoplacebo]

Yeah, she definitely needs to stfu or else start drinking early. Shit, it's almost as much whining as trump.

[GoCubsGo]

Adam Schiff for 2020!