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Yes, because how many school shootings occur by storming the doors and shooting through the windows. Ummm, that would be "none."
Sandy Hook, but the exception proves your rule.
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Father of Georgia school shooter knew of son’s deteriorating state, say investigators, who found notebook with disturbing drawings

Colin Gray, the father of the teenager accused of killing four people at a Georgia high school, knew of his son’s deteriorating mental state and his fascination with campus shootings, investigators testified Wednesday during a hearing that elicited troubling new details of what led up to the rampage....
:x :cry: Lock them both up!

Will the fear of accountability force ammosexual parents to be more responsible?
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1 teen + 1 gun trumps an entire family's resistance or escape:
Teen In Custody After 5 Found Dead In Shooting At A Home, Police Say
Two adults and three young teenagers were found dead inside the home southeast of Seattle on Monday morning, authorities said.


... Multiple people called 911 around 5 a.m. to report a shooting in Fall City, Washington, King County Sheriff’s Office spokesperson Mike Mellis said at a media briefing Monday afternoon.

Arriving deputies immediately took one teen into custody while another teenager who had been hurt was taken to a Seattle hospital, Mellis said. Both teens live at the house, Mellis said.

Deputies entering the home found the bodies of five people, he said. Two were adults and three were described by Mellis as young teenagers....

A neighbor told KING-TV that a couple and their five children lived in the home....
Unless there were visitors 1 shooter + 1 hurt + 5 dead accounts for everyone :cry:

Trump Tells Parents Of School Shooting Victims We Need More Guns ‘For Entertainment’
He didn’t mention school shootings once when fielding a question about them.


At Univision’s town-hall-style event Wednesday, 33-year-old Jesús González asked Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump: “Could you explain your gun control policy to the parents of the victims of school shootings?”

Trump’s response to those parents: They’re better off in a country with more guns.

“We have a Second Amendment and right to bear arms, essentially,” Trump said. “And I’m very strongly an advocate of that — I think you need that. I think that if you ever tried to get rid of it, you wouldn’t be able to do it. You wouldn’t be able to take away the guns, because people need that for security. They need it for entertainment, and for sport and other things — but they also, in many cases, need it for protection.”

Trump echoed former National Rifle Association chief Wayne LaPierre’s famous argument that if more “good people” have guns, it helps keep crime down.

“You want to have a lot of good people have [guns],” the former president said. “But if we didn’t have that, you would see a crime rate that’s crazy.”
TRE45QN cowered from the question and lied to Jesús. Shame.
Southern and Mountain West states with more permissive gun laws tend to have higher death rates from gun violence than those of the Northeast or California, where gun restrictions are tighter, according to research from the Center for Gun Violence Solutions at Johns Hopkins University.
Opps.
Trump did not mention school shootings in his two-minute response, but he repeatedly accused his Democratic rival, Vice President Kamala Harris, of wanting to take Americans’ guns away.
Another lie.
... Harris said at their only presidential debate last month that both she and her running mate, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, are gun owners and do not want to take firearms away from law-abiding gun owners.

Both the Harris campaign and gun reformers seized on Trump’s remarks for prioritizing gun owners’ “entertainment” over the safety of schoolchildren.
That's how he is.
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1 teen + 1 gun trumps an entire family's resistance or escape:
Unless there were visitors 1 shooter + 1 hurt + 5 dead accounts for everyone :cry:
Yep.

An 11-year-old girl played dead before escaping after 5 family members were killed at their Washington state home

The 15-year-old shooter called 911 and blamed his 13-year-old brother for a murder/suicide. He did not know that his 11-year-old sister was already busting him with her own 911 call from a neighbor's. Opps.

The 15-year-old was the only child given the combo to the gun safe, which kind of defeats its purpose.

All the kids were home-schooled. Does that make a difference? -0-?
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The Onion buys Alex Jones's InfoWars in auction with the help of Sandy Hook families: How we got here

The Onion, a satirical news publication, has acquired Infowars, the website founded by conspiracy theorist Alex Jones. Jones was ordered to put it up for auction to pay more than $1 billion he owes to the families of Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting victims for falsely claiming that the 2012 massacre that killed 20 children and six adults in Newtown, Conn., was staged....

Ben Collins, chief executive of the Onion parent company Global Tetrahedron, told the New York Times that the publication “plans to reintroduce InfoWars in January as a parody of itself.”

In the press release, Collins said that the Onion “has a long history of helping the American public navigate some of the most difficult moments in American life,” including 9/11.

“In that tradition,” he added, “we hope the Sandy Hook families will be able to marvel at the cosmic joke we soon make of InfoWars.”
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You've got bigger problems:
Trump-Appointed Judge Overturns Illinois Assault Weapons Ban
The ruling increases the likelihood that the conservative-majority Supreme Court will one day consider whether the Second Amendment protects AR-15s.


A federal judge overturned an Illinois assault weapons ban Friday, contending that the law enacted in response to the 2022 mass shooting at a Highland Park parade violated the Second Amendment in its entirety.

The 168-page ruling, by Donald Trump-appointee Stephen McGlynn, deals a sharp blow to reformers and marks the latest major court ruling to expand gun rights in the wake of the conservative-dominated U.S. Supreme Court’s sweeping reinterpretation of the Second Amendment two years ago.
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The decision boosts the likelihood that the Supreme Court will eventually weigh in on whether states can restrict the sale of semiautomatic rifles, such as AR-15s and AK-47s, without running afoul of the Constitution.

“While the Court is sympathetic to those who have lost loved ones to gun violence, such tragedies are not an excuse to restrict the rights guaranteed to the Illinois public by the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution,” McGlynn wrote in his opinion.
:obscene-birdiered: They are a sufficient "excuse", the best imaginable.
... The judge also noted that, in a movie, Indiana Jones shot a large man with a pistol because he couldn’t reach him with his sword.

“Considering the above discussion, it is clear that an individual’s choice of arms is a critical facet of the concept of self defense,” McGlynn wrote, after the Indiana Jones analysis....
:wtf: Boy howdy, that's some deep legal scholarship.
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Wow.

That wisdom is indeed trumpian.
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Sat Nov 16, 2024 1:04 am
Wow.

That wisdom is indeed trumpian.
Missouri, lots of wisdom there.
Family pleaded to have assault rifle seized before deadly school shooting. Officers had few options

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A photo of Alexandria Bell rests at the scene of a growing floral memorial to the victims of a school shooting at Central Visual & Performing Arts High School, Oct. 25, 2022, in St. Louis.

Orlando Harris’ family pleaded with Missouri police to confiscate the 19-year-old’s bullet-proof vest, ammunition and AR-15-style rifle. They knew his mental health was fragile after more than one suicide attempt. But the best officers could do in a state with some of the most expansive gun rights is suggest Harris keep the weapon in a storage unit.

Nine days later, Harris entered his former St. Louis high school and declared, “All of you are going to die.”

A new 456-page police report details the efforts Harris' family took to try to take his gun away in the days before he walked into Central Visual Arts and Performing Arts High School on Oct. 24, 2022, when he killed a student and a teacher and wounded seven others before he was fatally shot by police.

Missouri is not among the 21 states with a red-flag law....
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Smart.
We're such a smart country. :roll:
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... Missouri is not among the 21 states with a red-flag law....
Smart.
We're such a smart country. :roll:
Madison school shooting live updates: 5 dead, including suspected shooter, at Abundant Life Christian School in Wisconsin, police say

Not as Abundant as it was yesterday :cry: There would have been more victims, but Madison schools don't have ammo vending machines . . . yet.

Am I wrong or does this seem to happen at Christian schools out of proportion to their numbers?
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Vrede too wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:32 pm
GoCubsGo wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2024 9:51 am
Vrede too wrote:
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... Missouri is not among the 21 states with a red-flag law....
Smart.
We're such a smart country. :roll:
Madison school shooting live updates: 5 dead, including suspected shooter, at Abundant Life Christian School in Wisconsin, police say

Not as Abundant as it was yesterday :cry: There would have been more victims, but Madison schools don't have ammo vending machines . . . yet.

Am I wrong or does this seem to happen at Christian schools out of proportion to their numbers?
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'Tis the season. :sick:
Revised death toll:
Madison school shooting live updates: Teacher, student killed at Abundant Life Christian School in Wisconsin; shooter dead
Police said the suspected shooter was a teenager student at the K-12 school.


A teacher and a teenage student were killed in a shooting at a private Christian school in Madison, Wis., on Monday, police said.

Madison Police Chief Shon Barnes said that the suspected shooter was a teen who attended Abundant Life Christian School, a K-12 academy where the shooting took place. The shooter was dead, according to officials.

Six other people were injured in the shooting, Barnes said. Two students were in critical condition with life-threatening injuries.

At an earlier press conference on Monday, authorities said that five people were killed and five others were injured in the shooting. But police later revised the death toll, saying three people were killed and six others were injured....
Rarity:
School shooter was reportedly a female student
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Flowers and candles are placed outside the Abundant Life Christian School Tuesday, Dec. 17, 2024 in Madison, Wis., following a shooting on Monday.
... Adam Rostad, who lives near Madison, went to ALCS from kindergarten through high school. His grandfather was pastor of the church that helped establish the school, and his mother and aunt both worked there....

“Bullets don’t really care what your faith is, or if you have one," Rostad said. "They really don’t.”
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Wisconsin school shooter was in contact with a California man accused of planning separate attack, report says

... Authorities also said Rupnow had been in contact with a 20-year-old man in Carlsbad, California, who was plotting a mass shooting with the teenager and told her he was planning to attack a government building, the AP reported, citing court documents.
Adjacent to O Really's Oceanside, ugh. Anti-government RW asshole?
... Links to shooting club: Jeff Rupnow had posted a photo on Facebook of his daughter at a shooting range in August....
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... Madison local Justin Myers brought his two young children to the Tuesday vigil, telling CNN he had “told them the truth” about what happened at Abundant Life.

Although his kids do not attend the Christian private school, he said they were ordered to go through a secure protocol at their nearby public school on Monday, what the father of two described as a shooting drill.

“It’s an epidemic, and I’m not a big believer in the thoughts and prayers crap –– I don’t think it works,” he added....

Nicole Hockley, the co-founder and co-CEO of Sandy Hook Promise, whose child was killed in the Sandy Hook shooting in 2012, said in a statement following the shooting at Abundant Life that “we must work together to protect our families and communities from gun violence.”

President Joe Biden, Vice President Kamala Harris and Wisconsin Democratic Rep. Mark Pocan called for more action from Congress to address gun violence.

“From Newtown to Uvalde, Parkland to Madison, to so many other shootings that don’t receive attention – it is unacceptable that we are unable to protect our children from this scourge of gun violence,” Biden said in a statement Monday.

In an interview with CNN, Pocan said: “I’ve sat through so many moments of silence on the floors of Congress that are followed by zero moments of action.”
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Supporters hold candles during a vigil Tuesday outside the Wisconsin Capitol in Madison

Breaking down Wisconsin law

Existing Wisconsin law limiting gun access to children is not sufficient, Dane County Executive Melissa Agard said Tuesday.

“Our laws in Wisconsin are far too lax when it comes to access of guns by children,” Agard said Tuesday.

“We should have background checks. We should have red flag bills, we should be providing adequate support for everyone in our community when it comes to behavioral health,” Agard added. “People should not be waiting when they raise their hand and ask for help.”...
:clap: , but I'm not holding my breath.
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I'm too familiar with make shift shrines and sunset vigils.
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I'm too familiar with makeshift shrines and sunset vigils.
You're not the only one. :(

60 Minutes: Between 200K and 500K US guns flow into Mexico annually. :angry-cussing:
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Add another tick mark to the ammosexuals' scorecard:

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Columbine High School shooting survivor dies decades after tragedy. Her tenacious spirit is remembered.
Anne Marie Hochhalter was among the most injured survivors of the 1999 Columbine High School shooting


... Hochhalter was 17 when her life shifted from teen clarinet player to among the most injured survivors of the 1999 Columbine High School shooting. The high school junior was paralyzed after being shot in the back. She spent the rest of her days in a wheelchair with medical complications.

Six months after the shooting, her mother, Carla Hochhalter, walked into an Englewood pawnshop, asked to see a revolver and fatally shot herself....

Anne Marie Hochhalter, 43, was found dead in her Westminster home Sunday.

Her death appears to be complications from the medical issues she suffered from the shooting, said Sue Townsend, stepmother of Lauren Townsend who died in the Columbine shooting. Sue and Rick Townsend reached out to Anne Marie Hochhalter after the tragedy and formed a familial relationship with her, calling her their “acquired daughter.”

“She was fiercely independent,” Sue Townsend said. “She was a fighter. She’d get knocked down — she struggled a lot with health issues that stemmed from the shooting — but I’d watch her pull herself back up. She was her best advocate and an advocate for others who weren’t as strong in the disability community.”

... In 2016, Anne Marie Hochhalter wrote a letter to the mother of Dylan Klebold who, along with Eric Harris, killed twelve students and one teacher in a shooting rampage at Columbine High School on April 20, 1999....

In the letter, Anne Marie Hochhalter told Sue Klebold she harbored no ill will toward her.

“Just as I wouldn’t want to be judged by the sins of my family members, I hold you in that same regard,” Hochhalter wrote. “It’s been a rough road for me, with many medical issues because of my spinal cord injury and intense nerve pain, but I choose not to be bitter towards you. A good friend once told me, ‘Bitterness is like swallowing a poison pill and expecting the other person to die.’ It only harms yourself. I have forgiven you and only wish you the best.”
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Add another tick mark to the ammosexuals' scorecard:


:cry: RIP
Two tick marks, her mother should be included.
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Besides him being crazy and postponing his trip to a real prison as opposed to the county jail I never understood the reason for a trial at all.

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