Shit Republicans Say

[rstrong]

Well, you know what Jesus said about homosexuality.
(Nothing at all, according to the Bible.)

So, what now?

For someone laying down a new moral code, if he had a problem with homosexuality, you'd think he would have mentioned it.

[Seth Milner]

The N word - and there are many similar words, racist, sexist and otherwise - is rarely heard now compared to your "good 'ol days." Of course I very much doubt that YOU would have considered them to be foul language.

You're going to hurt yourself doing all that thinking. You're certainly not paying attention to what you're reading.


The stupid rstrong with this one . . .

[billy.pilgrim]

"If we study the course of our cultural life during the last twenty-five years we shall be astonished to note how far we have already gone in this process of retrogression. Everywhere we find the presence of those germs which give rise to protuberant growths that must sooner or later bring about the ruin of our culture. Here we find undoubted symptoms of slow corruption; and woe to the nations that are no longer able to bring that morbid process to a halt


Did seth say this?

No.

So what was all that about widening the highway to hell

Bump

[Seth Milner]

Well, you know what Jesus said about homosexuality.
(Nothing at all, according to the Bible.)

homerfobe said he's getting out sometime in January; you suppose this is why?

[Seth Milner]

So what was all that about widening the highway to hell

Go back to page 3

[billy.pilgrim]

So what was all that about widening the highway to hell

Go back to page 3

I did. It was the same garbage about longing for the good old days when everybody was better than they are now

and


and it fits almost exactly with the Mosolini quote I posted

so cool, the way he called it the "process of retrogression"

I believe preacher huckleberry may have used the same phrase in one of his sermons.

[Vrede too]

The point is, you are (a special kind of stupid). And you keep demonstrating it.

Even setting aside your homophobic bigotry, you demonstrate it with your words below about unwed mothers. ESPECIALLY in the context of the post you're responding to.

A few decades ago, homosexuals and unwed mothers were highly vilified in society. Homosexuals hid their orientation,

unwed mothers kept out of sight when they began showing.

It's "moral" to hide and deceive? Interesting, where is that in the Bible?

Nowadays, homosexuality, unwed mothers,

Seth Milner has a special disdain for unwed mothers, to the point of denying that all mothers work, but makes no mention of unwed fathers or rapists. More misogyny.

disrespect, foul language,

Seth Milner does that, too,

but it doesn't stop him from whining about others.

and public lewdness are the norm.

For example, your posting.

The N word - and there are many similar words, racist, sexist and otherwise - is rarely heard now compared to your "good 'ol days." Of course I very much doubt that YOU would have considered them to be foul language.

Beyond that, Seth Milner's entire "morality" is sex related, which says way more about him than it does either the Bible or modern morals. He obsesses about "Lust", entirely ignores the 6 other deadly sins and commits "Wrath" with his homophobia.

[Seth Milner]

Beyond that, Seth Milner's entire "morality" is sex related, which says way more about him than it does either the Bible or modern morals. He obsesses about "Lust", entirely ignores the 6 other deadly sins and commits "Wrath" with his homophobia.

rstrong wrote:
"The point is, you are (a special kind of stupid). And you keep demonstrating it."

Agreed

[rstrong]

homerfobe said he's getting out sometime in January; you suppose this is why?

No, but I'm sure that you believe it. Heck, the way you latch on to this and every other meme use to extract money and votes from the gullible and stupid, you probably believe that with women allowed in the military, mandatory sex changes are in the cards.

[rstrong]

The N word - and there are many similar words, racist, sexist and otherwise - is rarely heard now compared to your "good 'ol days." Of course I very much doubt that YOU would have considered them to be foul language.

You're going to hurt yourself doing all that thinking. You're certainly not paying attention to what you're reading.

What's annoying for people like you is that others DO think and DO pay attention to what they're reading.

[Seth Milner]

The N word - and there are many similar words, racist, sexist and otherwise - is rarely heard now compared to your "good 'ol days." Of course I very much doubt that YOU would have considered them to be foul language.

You're going to hurt yourself doing all that thinking. You're certainly not paying attention to what you're reading.

What's annoying for people like you is that others DO think and DO pay attention to what they're reading.

The evidence is lacking herein.

[Seth Milner]

Look up any of a variety of definitions of "moral" or "morality." Some moral principles are religion-based, some are not. Among those that are religion-based, there are substantial differences as to moral standards. It's pretty common for a person observing someone with moral standards different from their own to say "s/he has no morals, or is otherwise going to Hell in a handbasket and taking the country with them." Does a citizen have to subscribe to a particular set of moral principles in order to receive equal treatment under the law? Is there room for more than one set of moral principles in a country?

Agreed.
I believe people tend to look at sexual things that are out of the ordinary as being immoral. Our society is deeply ingrained with the man/woman relationship because it was hammered into them all their lives as well as being a religious issue. Used to be there were sissies and tom-boys when it came to being accused of being homosexual; there were perverts and sex fiends before the words pedophile, bestiality, nymphomania, and masochism became popular terms. Personally, I have no thoughts whether any of those are normal, moral, or immoral; however I will speak out sort of in a ridiculing yet neutral manner on many of these subjects.

I found this today . . . makes sense to me:

"I don't remember a single school shooting when I was a kid.
What I do remember is our teacher having us begin the day reciting the Pledge of Allegiance,
and reading from the Bible followed by a short prayer.
We also had the Ten Commandments on the wall.

Maybe getting rid of those things wasn't such a good idea after all . . . ?"

[O Really]

"I don't remember a single school shooting when I was a kid.
What I do remember is our teacher having us begin the day reciting the Pledge of Allegiance,
and reading from the Bible followed by a short prayer.
We also had the Ten Commandments on the wall.

Maybe getting rid of those things wasn't such a good idea after all . . . ?"

Somebody needs a refresher on causal relationships and variables.

But sure, since nothing else has changed in the world since 1950-something except for those things, I guess getting rid of those things caused the shootings.

[rstrong]

"I don't remember a single school shooting when I was a kid.
What I do remember is our teacher having us begin the day reciting the Pledge of Allegiance,
and reading from the Bible followed by a short prayer.
We also had the Ten Commandments on the wall.

Maybe getting rid of those things wasn't such a good idea after all . . . ?"

When I was a kid we didn't recite a Pledge of Allegiance.
We didn't read from the Bible or pray.
We didn't have the Ten Commandments on the wall.

While we've had school shootings over the years, they're almost non-existent compared to the US rate. The kids didn't grow up to be the mass-shooters of today.

By your logic, not having those things was a good thing after all.

[Vrede too]

When I was a kid, the NRA still believed in gun control and had not yet been taken over by the gun industry shills and wingnuts.

... Somebody needs a refresher on causal relationships and variables....

Not to mention accuracy and investigation.

List of school shootings in the United States

"Pledge of Allegiance,
and reading from the Bible followed by a short prayer.
We also had the Ten Commandments"
Is that a Robert Lewis Dear, Jr. quote?

Just like 1930-40s Germany? Well then, by Seth Milner's "reasoning", those things alone must have caused Nazism.

It's adorable when Seth Milner posts about education-related topics.

[Boatrocker]

. . . I found this today . . . makes sense to me . . . .

That's hardly a sterling endorsement.

[rstrong]

. . . I found this today . . . makes sense to me . . . .

That's hardly a sterling endorsement.

Especially in the context of the other things he's found that have "made sense to him" and that he's reposted here.

[billy.pilgrim]

"I don't remember a single school shooting when I was a kid.
What I do remember is our teacher having us begin the day reciting the Pledge of Allegiance,
and reading from the Bible followed by a short prayer.
We also had the Ten Commandments on the wall.

Maybe getting rid of those things wasn't such a good idea after all . . . ?"

When I was a kid we didn't recite a Pledge of Allegiance.
We didn't read from the Bible or pray.
We didn't have the Ten Commandments on the wall.

While we've had school shootings over the years, they're almost non-existent compared to the US rate. The kids didn't grow up to be the mass-shooters of today.

By your logic, not having those things was a good thing after all.

I don't remember any school shooting when I was a kid.
What I do remember is having an economy where one person could support a family and the other parent would be home to cook breakfast, send the kids to school and be there with an afternoon snack to discuss the school day.
We learned that there is no such thing as a free lunch and the great economy we lived in was paid by the taxes collected.
We learned that our greatness came from being a melting pot where all differences could prosper
We learned and by every indication we were all seeing a great future.

Maybe letting the repugs and especially reagan get rid of those things for 90% of the citizenry, while spending us into debt that will harm our children and probably even our great grandchildren wasn't such a good idea after all . . . ?"

[Boatrocker]

. . . I found this today . . . makes sense to me . . . .

That's hardly a sterling endorsement.

Especially in the context of the other things he's found that have "made sense to him" and that he's reposted here.

He was just joking.

[rstrong]

What I do remember is having an economy where one person could support a family and the other parent would be home to cook breakfast, send the kids to school and be there with an afternoon snack to discuss the school day.

One way for senior citizens to elicit stunned disbelief from young adults is to describe how they worked hard all summer and saved enough money for room and board and tuition for the following school year.

Tuition alone has risen by 20 times the rate of inflation for decades. And those working just as hard - at today's student-level wages - let alone not being told to work for free as interns - are lucky if they can support themselves for the summer let alone save.

As for high school students, the fast food and paper route jobs people even my age did to save money are now for adults only.

The Atlantic: Why Do Americans Work So Much?

Economist John Maynard Keynes predicted 15-hour work weeks thanks to greatly increased productivity. However...

This can be seen in the median worker’s income over this time period, complete with a shift in 1973 that fits in precisely with when the workweek stopped shrinking. According to Friedman, “Between 1947 and 1973 the average hourly wage for nonsupervisory workers in private industries other than agriculture (restated in 2013 dollars) nearly doubled, from $12.27 to $21.23—an average growth rate of 2.1 percent per annum. But by 2013 the average hourly wage was only $20.13—a 5 percent fall from the 1973 level.” For most people, then, the magic of increasing productivity stopped working around 1973, and they had to keep working just as much in order to maintain their standard of living.

[...]

In Keynes’s vision, the resulting unemployment would be distributed more or less evenly across society in the form of increased leisure.

Friedman says that reality comports more with a darker version of technological unemployment: It’s not unemployment per se, but a soft labor market in which millions of people are “desperately seeking whatever low-wage work [they] can get.”

We got the greatly increased productivity. But taxes on the wealthiest and on corporations were slashed to a small fraction of what they used to be. The tax burden was dropped on the middle class, which has since been disappearing.