The LEO thread

[O Really]

A house is burgled; a person is robbed. Most burglars aren't even armed - much worse charges if caught, and they don't intend to find anyone at home.
Here's some interesting data on burglaries... http://www.stateoftheusa.org/content/ne ... rglary.php

Robbers usually are armed, and take property from people. They expect a confrontation and sometimes shoot the victim. Do we believe a person intent on robbery saw the wife was at home and decided that she'd be the easiest target of the day? I don't.

Sure, there's always the guy looking for drugs or drug money, and those aren't particularly smart criminals, and they might be armed and they might force their way into a house they found out was occupied. Statistically, they don't usually hit nice neighborhoods like that one. Too many alarms, dogs, can't fit in on the sidewalk, whatever.

My money is on the husband.

[Seth Milner]

My money is on the husband.

[Seth Milner]

You poor illiterate crybaby. That was entirely topical response and, as usual when you've flubbed logic and thoughtfulness along with misreading what I posted, you call it "whining" and run away by suddenly shunning the topic and ducking my 2 questions, pansy.

You're too important a person for us peons to talk to. You must forgive me and my insolence.

[Vrede too]

Your wussy pretense that the subject of your passive-aggressive whining wasn't clear is pathetic.

A young pretty wife and a one year child left home alone, and he doesn't feel the need to lock the door behind him? Or even "forgot" to lock his door? Come on!

Do men with old and/or ugly wives care less about them?

I did not say just him. Other possibilities include:

She kissed him goodbye at the door and didn't lock it.
She went to get the paper and didn't lock the door.
They don't lock the door in the daytime.
The door was locked but she opened it when someone knocked.
The killer entered through some other window or door that was mistakenly left unlocked.

Or, as we've all agreed is possible or likely, hubby was somehow involved and that led to the lack of forced entry.

There are many things that could explain lack of forced entry, it just isn't the most crucial datum to me. Did your "investigations" always begin with a conclusion that excluded all reasonable alternate possibilities?

Run away, poor widdle Seth Milner, run away - questions, literacy, logic and reason are akin to the plague for you.

[Seth Milner]

Run away, poor widdle Seth Milner, run away - questions, literacy, logic and reason are akin to the plague for you.

You're the only plague here I'm aware of; therefore, I "run" from you like. . .

Strange though. I never thought the plague started at the asshole.

[Vrede too]

You poor illiterate crybaby. That was entirely topical response and, as usual when you've flubbed logic and thoughtfulness along with misreading what I posted, you call it "whining" and run away by suddenly shunning the topic and ducking my 2 questions, pansy.

Run away, poor widdle Seth Milner, run away - questions, literacy, logic and reason are akin to the plague for you.

As usual, no topical discussion can't be abandoned in favor of whining about me, you poor, poor vulgar child.

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[O Really]

My money is on the husband.

Did you see the vid of the husband talking about it? http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/video/i ... g-35272233

Looks pretty cool to me. And he's "confused"? Not heartbroken, not devastated, not distraught, but "confused" because she had no enemies. Well, hell, if it really was a burglary gone bad, she wouldn't need to have enemies, would she? Not a tear or sign of emotional distress.

It'll be interesting to see what if anything they find out about the gun they found.

Double down on the husband.

[Vrede too]

Thanks.

They'll have to link the gun to the murder, link it to a perp and then link the perp to hubby. #1 will be easy if it's the right gun, no telling about #2 & #3.

To be fair, he was asked about enemies, it wasn't something he volunteered. It is interesting that ABC went there and isn't just accepting the random burglary theory.
He did say "angry" (early in the report) and "devastated" (later).

Then again, Nancy Grace is usually wrong.
Never trust anyone that drinks "Virgin Pina Coladas" on vacation.
Going on Nightline, which is extremely unlikely to accomplish anything that local media wouldn't do, is suspect.
You're right, he doesn't look sincere at all, but we don't know what parts of the interview ABC didn't air.

We'll see, I would still bet straight up on the husband being involved, but I wouldn't double down.

Let's float alternate theories:

Rival pastor.
Homicidal atheist. Were banni and Boatrocker posting at the time?
She was a Houston Texans fan.
She mispronounced "Hoosier" as "Hoser".
Personal beef against hubby, wife or both.
Hubby slept with the wrong guy's wife.
Wife slept with the wrong gal's husband.
Hubby slept with the wrong guy's husband or wife slept with the wrong gal's wife.
It was that Neighborhood Watch Captain, we know how they are.
People in Indiana don't like South Carolinians. Can you blame them?

Others?

[O Really]

You're right, he doesn't look sincere at all, but we don't know what parts of the interview ABC didn't air.

No, we don't know what they didn't air. But if there had been some distraught guy tearing up and voice quivering, you think that they wouldn't have included it? Looked to me like he was talking about somebody he barely knew getting killed. Not so much in words, but in tone and manner.

And Nancy Grace may be obnoxious and often wrong, but if she's on it somebody thinks there's more than a burglary here.

BTW, I wonder how many black women in bad neighborhoods have been killed in break-ins or domestic issues lately. I haven't seen too much about that on national news.

[neoplacebo]

I have my suspicion about the husband. I saw a clip of him talking about the event and he mentioned Jesus several times.....seemingly quite non affected in any normal way by the murder. I think he's guilty. The husband, not Jesus.

[Vrede too]

... I think he's guilty. The husband, not Jesus.

Let's leave room for the latter inspiring the former.

[Vrede too]

... And Nancy Grace may be obnoxious and often wrong, but if she's on it somebody thinks there's more than a burglary here....

I don't know, isn't getting worked up about murdered white pretty females her thing regardless of the circumstances? "Pastor's wife" adds more titillation even if it was just a burglary.

[Vrede too]

Amanda Blackburn's death: What we know

[O Really]

I've noticed the "facts" have changed since the first reporting. Now the burglary is "shortly" before (an hour in other reports) and not the "3 hours" originally reported. It is also "two doors down" and not simply "in the neighborhood."

I haven't changed my bet.

[Vrede too]

I don't know for sure but the time discrepancy might be explained by the husband "finding" her at 8:30 a.m. while more current reports have a neighbor saying s/he heard gunshot/s between 6:45 and 6:55. That would change 3 hours to "shortly" or about 1 hour.

I did notice that earlier reports gave the impression that the other burglary was farther away than "two doors down".

[O Really]

I don't know for sure but the time discrepancy might be explained by the husband "finding" her at 8:30 a.m. while more current reports have a neighbor saying s/he heard gunshot/s between 6:45 and 6:55.

I did notice that earlier reports gave the impression that the other burglary was farther away than "two doors down".

Yeah, that is right. The original 3 or so hours was from when the husband returned.
Wonder what happened when the neighbor called 911 after hearing gunshots in his/her neighborhood early in the morning. Apparently didn't call. Maybe the neighborhood is rougher than it looks. Generally, it is said that people hear one gunshot and they think it might be something else. If they hear two or more, they call 911.

[Vrede too]

... Generally, it is said that people hear one gunshot and they think it might be something else....

I often wonder. I go out on my porch to see if I hear more, screeching tires or screaming. Even then, without clear directionality and approximate distance, what good would it do? I note the time in case I hear about a subsequent investigation that an exact time might assist.

[Seth Milner]

I have my suspicion about the husband. I saw a clip of him talking about the event and he mentioned Jesus several times.....seemingly quite non affected in any normal way by the murder. I think he's guilty. The husband, not Jesus.

My thoughts as well; my suspicions have been on the husband all the time. In his interview, he didn't appear to be overcome with grief; in fact, I would say, by appearances, that his mood was upbeat. I'm guessing that the police are taking notes on all of this, but are keeping their suspicions to themselves for now; don't want to spook the husband and get him out of his comfort zone. I've got a gut feeling that a shocking announcement will be forthcoming from the police before too long.

[Vrede too]

... We'll see, I would still bet straight up on the husband being involved, but I wouldn't double down....

With the new plausible but still way incomplete details, I wouldn't bet one way or the other.