The LEO thread

[O Really]

...t a shocking announcement will be forthcoming from the police before too long.

I wouldn't hold my breath. I'm betting it's the husband, but sometimes the trail turns cold and even if the cops are pretty sure it's him, they can't prove it. Hopefully something will turn up. Should help that they at least have a potential suspect and a gun that might be connected.

[Vrede too]

So far, all they've got is a fuzzy, faceless pic and two people that were taken into custody, they're saying "on unrelated charges".

Davey Blackburn makes more national TV appearances

Good Morning America
NBC News
FOX News
Inside Edition

Tacky, even if he's not involved.

Resonate Church: Core Convictions

The first one is: "It's Not About Me"

[Vrede too]

Police: Pregnant pastor's wife in Indiana was raped by her killer or killers

Ick, I regret any levity I've posted.

Rape, credit card use at a gas station, ATM withdrawal, one or both with video/pics - If it was a hit, it wasn't a very professional one.

[Seth Milner]

Police: Pregnant pastor's wife in Indiana was raped by her killer or killers

Ick, I regret any levity I've posted.

Rape, credit card use at a gas station, ATM withdrawal, one or both with video/pics - If it was a hit, it wasn't a very professional one.

Agreed; I too have to regret my suspicions. I couldn't raise your link; but I did find the story on abcnews7. It appears DNA samples were taken; I hope they catch the scumbag.

[Vrede too]

The link still works for me. Anyone else having trouble with it?

[bannination]

The link still works for me. Anyone else having trouble with it?

Works fine here.

[O Really]

The use of the ATM card adds a dimension to my opinion, but doesn't change it. I still say there's more than a burglary.

[Seth Milner]

The link still works for me. Anyone else having trouble with it?

Weird. It works for me now. Before, all I got was a blank video screen and a screwed-up Yahoo page. I picked up on that part where the investigation states "she put up a fight". This type of crime is not in my field of expertise, but I can't help, like O Really, having a nagging feeling that something is amiss that is not being publicized to protect the integrity of the investigation.

[O Really]

The whole story still doesn't track. Let's say the burglar from the neighborhood is the one who killed her. So he, like most burglars, is looking for an easy house to break into. Finds one, steals something, and then sees the husband leave. So he thinks either "this guy left, probably doesn't have anybody left in the house, or they've already gone too." Or, "This guy left, I'll go knock on the door to see if the house is empty." Let's pick (b). He knocks on the door and the wife answers. OK, at this point, probably 90% of burglars will make some excuse and leave, continuing their search for easy pickings. But he didn't. He pushes in the house and - what - hits her, threatens her with his gun and then decides to stop being a burglar and become a rapist? Possible, but not consistent with typical behavior of either burglars or rapists. And when did he ask her for her ATM PIN? Before or after the rape? And then he shot her to avoid leaving a witness? All possible, but I'm not buying it. I say the attack was not random, but personal, and the attacker knew when the husband would be leaving and that she'd be there by herself.

[Seth Milner]

Or, as I stated earlier, she might have known the attacker.

[Vrede too]

There's still more to be learned, but I'm now leaning towards burglary and rape of opportunity or vice versa.

It doesn't have to all make sense - ad libbing a crime while committing another crime, leaving DNA, and risking pics at a gas station and ATM don't point towards the sharpest tack in the box.

[O Really]

Most criminals aren't among the sharpest tacks in the box.
According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, National Crime Victimization Survey, 1993–2010, in 2005-10, about 9% of violent victimizations that occurred in victims’ homes were committed by strangers. Of those, about 10% involved a firearm. Violent victimization crimes include rape/sexual assault, robbery, aggravated assault, and simple assault. About 22% of victims of violence committed by strangers were injured, compared to 31% of victims who knew the offender. However, about 43% of homicides known to have been committed by a stranger occurred during a robbery or argument.

So although the opportunistic burglar carrying a firearm and deciding to rape a stranger is one possible event, it is statistically unlikely.

[Vrede too]

It's only statistically unlikely absent the details about this case that we now know. I don't know what the odds are with them.

I can't remember, do we know that the gun wasn't the Blackburn's?

[homerfobe]

There's still more to be learned, but I'm now leaning towards burglary and rape of opportunity or vice versa.

It doesn't have to all make sense - ad libbing a crime while committing another crime, leaving DNA, and risking pics at a gas station and ATM don't point towards the sharpest tack in the box.

Thinking things through seldom occurs in a crime of opportunity. Sharp minds and/or thinkers not required.

[O Really]

It's only statistically unlikely absent the details about this case that we now know. I don't know what the odds are with them.

I can't remember, do we know that the gun wasn't the Blackburn's?

I don't think they've said anything about what they've found out about the gun, if anything. But that's a good thought. It could have been - that would explain several parts of the puzzle. Why he had a gun, why the struggle, why she was shot, etc.

[Seth Milner]

I said that I believe a shocking revelation would be made and it was; not as I, nor probably any of you, would have imagined though. . . 3 people charged!?! I'll just be damned! ABC news reported that 2 parole jumpers were questioned and released, and then re-arrested in connection with the case, along with an 18 year old. The Indy Star only mentions the 18 year old as being the prime suspect. According to ABC, it seems the three broke/walked in, two left to use the ATM card, the third raped and shot her while they were gone. Completely different turn of events than what we expected!

[Vrede too]

I imagined it when 2 were arrested at first on "unrelated charges", and then when the headline said "killer or killers".

Amanda Blackburn case: Murder suspect arrested

[Vrede too]

Looked around, this article has more details than any others I found:

One man arrested, two others in custody in connection with Amanda Blackburn murder case

[homerfobe]

Sharp minds and/or thinkers not required.

No mug shots yet. Black trash street homies probably. More than likely. Wait and see.

[O Really]

Perhaps I was wrong all along. We'll see.