2016 Elections

[O Really]

Lotta votes in Wayne county - not turned in yet, but Hillary ahead about 60-40 at 11:30.

[Vrede too]

... 4% would be hard to make up regardless of local quirks....

est % in: 92%
Sanders 49.9%
Clinton 48.1%

http://www.cnn.com/

I think that was a CNN glitch, not that close yet.

http://www.cnn.com/specials/politics/20 ... es-results

[O Really]

They gave MI to Bernie at 11:40.

[Seth Milner]

[billy.pilgrim]

Where is little marco

[Seth Milner]

Where is little marco

He's the pine straw?

[Vrede too]

Obama Approval Reaches Three-Year High as America Realizes It Could, and Will, Do So Much Worse

... I'm not a highly paid political strategist, but it seems like there is a pretty obvious reason why Obama's poll numbers would be rising right now, namely: The dawning sense of terror enveloping Americans who are realizing that they are going to have to replace him with, probably, Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton. Trump would be the most-disliked non-incumbent nominee since at least 1992—and Hillary Clinton would be the second-most-disliked.



...



... the person who was around for all that is going to be replaced by Clinton—who may well continue Obama's policies but is widely perceived as dishonest and disingenuous—or Donald Trump, who is America's worst human. Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone?

[JTA]

Even if I was cool with Trump, he's simply too divisive. I don't like that at all, its like he has a divide and conquer strategy.

How's that saying go? United we stand, divided we fall?

[billy.pilgrim]

Well, crap. Dinesh D'Souza has somehow uncovered the secret history of the Democratic Party: Not only were we once the party of slavery, but racism among prominent Democrats continued "well into the 20th century." Can you imagine? But we've been working feverishly for decades to keep our shameful past swept under the rug, so virtually nobody knows this anymore.


http://m.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/201 ... hear-about



even includes the moron who wrote a book explaining that hitlers nazis were liberal

[Vrede too]

More Shocking Upsets in Store for Bernie Sanders?

... The day before Sanders' win in Michigan, Sanders supporters were celebrating a Michigan State poll showing the Senator within five points of Clinton -- hard on the heels of three polls taken in the first 96 hours of March showing (chronologically) Clinton with a lead of +28, +17, and +11. The trend toward a Sanders win seemed clear to many, yet the Michigan State poll never appeared on Five Thirty Eight, forcing the popular site to declare Sanders' Michigan win "one of the greatest upsets in modern political history" -- but also "among the greatest polling errors in primary history."

... Here's what we know: down by 37 in Illinois just five days ago, Sanders is now up by two according to CBS News; down by 30 in Ohio five days ago, Sanders is now down by only single digits; the only polling in Missouri has Sanders in a statistical dead heat with Clinton, per the poll's margin of error; and while the polling in Florida at first blush seems less favorable -- Sanders has "only" cut 17 points off Clinton's 45-point lead in the last 48 hours, according to CBS News -- the Sanders campaign reports its internal polling shows a race in the high single-digits, and given that this internal data turned out to be correct in Michigan, it seems we should all be paying it some mind.

North Carolina is an odd case, given that up until March 7th -- less than a week ago -- the polling was showing Sanders cutting Clinton's lead from 17 points down to 10. All that's happened since then is that Sanders has pulled off "one of the greatest upsets in modern political history"; nevertheless, this week's polls show Clinton extending her lead from 10 points up to somewhere between 23 and 29 points. Does a candidate nearly tripling her lead in a state after granting the largest momentum swing in modern political history to her opponent make any sense to any pollster anywhere?

Now Hillary Clinton's campaign manager, having been among the first -- days before Michigan -- to suggest that that state's primary could be far closer than anticipated, is telling the media that Clinton may well lose Ohio, Missouri,and Illinois.... Are we headed for another Super Tuesday in which the pundits, beforehand, suggest that Sanders has no shot to do well, only to reveal, thereafter, that all the polling was "wrong" and in fact the information coming out of both the Clinton and Sanders campaigns was correct?

Arguably, there has been a concerted effort in the media of late to announce the Clinton-Sanders race as statistically over -- often through the misleading use of "super-delegates" who, per the Democratic National Committee, don't formally vote for (or get counted for) any candidate until the summer -- with the predictable effect of depressing Sanders' turnout on primary days. What would happen if, as this article aims to do, Sanders' momentum and recent polling data were accurately reported by the media, leading prospective Sanders voters to understand, correctly, that their votes this coming Tuesday could change the course of American political history?

[Vrede too]

Sure are a lot of Bernie ads airing. His team must think he has a come from behind shot here in NC, or at least thinks that a close NC outcome will compliment other results today.

[Vrede too]

Whatever happens, has Trump helped Bernie by making it cool to be so anti-establishment, but for folks that don't like Trump's way of being so?

Similarly, have Bernie, OWS, Warren etc. helped Trump given that he harps on the rich owning the establishment? Never mind that Trump is a predatory billionaire, the meme seems to work for him even though it's ridiculous on it face.

[Wneglia]

Grand Dragon KKK endorses Hillary

Then again there has been a long-standing friendship with clan members

[rstrong]

Grand Dragon KKK endorses Hillary

So a KKK leader on record for tweeting out Trump support... despite Hillary lacking the openly racist policies of Trump... suddenly publicly declares support for Hillary when Trump comes under fire for having KKK support and not disavowing it.

Gee. That sounds sincere.



From the Snopes article whose picture you linked to without linking to the article itself:

The guy is Senator Robert Byrd. The picture was taken in 2004. Byrd was a member of the KKK in the 1940s. He left the organization and throughout his long political career (he served for 57 years in the United States Congress) repeatedly apologized for his involvement with the KKK.

That's a far cry from how Trump declined to condemn CURRENT hate group leader Duke and the KKK just a couple weeks ago.

But nice sleazy quarter-truth though.

[Vrede too]

To be fair, Wneglia didn't post that a KKK endorsement is a bad thing.

[rstrong]

Good point. I missed that.

[Wneglia]

David Duke was in the KKK from 1967-1980. He has not been a member for 35 years.



Yeah, Byrd changed his spots.

[rstrong]

David Duke was in the KKK from 1967-1980. He has not been a member for 35 years.

As your Snopes article notes, he's still an active member of another white supremacist organization, NAAWP: the National Association for the Advancement of White People. And he's still a prominent Holocaust denier.

Funny how you don't mention this.

Yeah, Byrd changed his spots.

As your Snopes article notes, even the NAACP mourned his passing:

The NAACP is saddened by the passing of United States Senator Robert Byrd. Byrd, the longest serving member of congress was first elected to the U.S. House from [West Virginia] in 1952 and was elected Senator in 1958. Byrd passed away this morning at the age of 92.

"Senator Byrd reflects the transformative power of this nation," stated NAACP President and CEO Benjamin Todd Jealous. "Senator Byrd went from being an active member of the KKK to a being a stalwart supporter of the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act and many other pieces of seminal legislation that advanced the civil rights and liberties of our country.

"Senator Byrd came to consistently support the NAACP civil rights agenda, doing well on the NAACP Annual Civil Rights Report Card. He stood with us on many issues of crucial importance to our members from the reauthorization of the Voting Rights Act, the historic health care legislation of 2010 and his support for the Hate Crimes Prevention legislation," stated Hilary O. Shelton, Director of the NAACP Washington Bureau and Senior Vice President for Advocacy and Policy. "Senator Byrd was a master of the Senate Rules, and helped strategize passage of legislation that helped millions of Americans. He will be sorely missed."

Funny how you linked to the picture at Snopes while not mentioning ANY of this.

[Vrede too]

To be fair, Wneglia didn't post that a KKK endorsement is a bad thing.

Still hasn't.

But seriously, with all the true stuff that can be flung at Hillary, who even thinks up trying to tar her with an association with a guy who has been dead 6 years and that was a racist 6 decades before that? It's just dumb. Wneglia, when did you take your first significant action against racism? Was it before or after Byrd did?

[Wneglia]

To be fair, Wneglia didn't post that a KKK endorsement is a bad thing.

Still hasn't.

But seriously, with all the true stuff that can be flung at Hillary, who even thinks up trying to tar her with an association with a guy who has been dead 6 years and that was a racist 6 decade before that? It's just dumb. Wneglia, when did you take your first significant action against racism. Was it before or after Byrd did?

Probably in elementary school in the early '50s when I befriended a black kid who was ignored or harassed by other whites.