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At this point is Russia emulating DonOLD's lies?

He's normalized it to a new level.

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We haven't touched on today's non-event event.

For Putin, the status quo is a win.

For DonOld, not stepping on his dick or having his dick stepped on in front of the world is a win.

My money is on Vladimir.
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Fri Aug 15, 2025 1:46 pm
We haven't touched on today's non-event event.

For Putin, the status quo is a win.

For DonOld, not stepping on his dick or having his dick stepped on in front of the world is a win.

My money is on Vladimir.
As you say, zero details announced, zero questions taken. 5 minutes after the end of this nothing burger my ABC station switched from analysis to Wheel of Fortune. :lol: NBC and CBS are still doing analysis of nothing. :yawn: PBS has Black Issues Forum on. I'm not sure if it was doing live coverage of the Nothing conference.
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Fact check: Trump’s latest fake history about the war in Ukraine

President Donald Trump claimed Monday that he knew why Russian troops weren’t able to enter Kyiv in the days after they invaded Ukraine in 2022. Russia’s tanks, Trump said, got destroyed by missiles “because the tanks got stuck in the mud.”

“You know, they would’ve been in Kyiv in four hours going down the highway. But a Russian general made a brilliant decision to go through the farmland instead,” he said, sarcastically criticizing the supposed general.

This is fake history, as military analysts and various Ukrainians have pointed out since the president began making similar claims months ago. In reality, Russia tried and failed to make it to Kyiv using roads and highways. Its tanks were thwarted by fierce Ukrainian resistance and logistical problems in addition to muddy conditions.
:headscratch: What I remember most clearly is the heroic and unexpected stand by the Ukrainian military and people.
... Trump’s phony narrative about the Russian invasion is only the latest in a long line of false claims from the president about the war. Among other things, Trump has this year:

* Repeatedly used imaginary figures to incorrectly make it seem as if the US has provided far more aid to Ukraine than Europe has; the opposite is true.
* Falsely said he was speaking “in jest” and being “sarcastic” when he solemnly promised dozens of times during his 2024 campaign to immediately end the war if he was elected.
* Used inaccurate numbers to understate Ukrainians’ support for President Volodymyr Zelensky early in the year and overstate their support for a negotiated end to the war today.
* Falsely claimed Ukraine started the war that was actually started by Russia.
* Falsely claimed Zelensky admitted half of US aid money went missing, though Zelensky made no such comment.
:roll: Donny, you are not okay.
As Trump prepares to meet with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Alaska on Friday, here’s a quick fact check of these Trump claims.


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Ouch.

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Bing, bing, bing.
“President Trump tried to put the best spin he could Friday on his summit with Vladimir Putin in Alaska…But the substantive news from the meeting seems to be that Mr. Putin refuses to end his war in Ukraine, and he won’t even agree to a temporary cease-fire…

In that sense the Russian achieved one of his major goals from the summit, which is the start of his rehabilitation as a world leader. The summit ended his isolation from the West, and he gave up nothing for it. He also appears to have gained more time to continue bombing Ukrainian cities and slowly taking more territory.”
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Sat Aug 16, 2025 12:05 pm
Bing, bing, bing.
“President Trump tried to put the best spin he could Friday on his summit with Vladimir Putin in Alaska…But the substantive news from the meeting seems to be that Mr. Putin refuses to end his war in Ukraine, and he won’t even agree to a temporary cease-fire…

In that sense the Russian achieved one of his major goals from the summit, which is the start of his rehabilitation as a world leader. The summit ended his isolation from the West, and he gave up nothing for it. He also appears to have gained more time to continue bombing Ukrainian cities and slowly taking more territory.”
https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/19 ... 1488130170
Plus, they both thumbed their noses at the international arrest warrant for war criminal Putin. Our PINO enables his flight from justice on a USAFB.
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Arrest warrant or not from a meaningless court, Putin is the guy they have to talk with for an agreement.

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:o Jacqui Heinrich used the 'W' word, "weak". In the past when cons have had to choose between Faux Noise and MAGA the Cult has stuck with MAGA, but that pattern MAY be shifting.
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:o Jacqui Heinrich used the 'W' word, "weak". In the past when cons have had to choose between Faux Noise and MAGA the Cult has stuck with MAGA, but that pattern MAY be shifting.
She gonna be fired.
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Nailed it.

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There's a reason that competent admins negotiate for months THEN put the leaders together for signing.

These aren't lowly US contractors and city regulators, Dementia Donny. They are world leaders who are all smarter, more vicious and more experienced than you.
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Vrede too wrote:
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There's a reason that competent admins negotiate for months THEN put the leaders together for signing.

These aren't lowly US contractors and city regulators, Dementia Donny. They are world leaders who are all smarter, more vicious and more experienced than you.
Only an idiot thinks these deals are made at a summit.....oh, waitasec.
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