Obama Scrambles For Cover As Benghazi Lie Explodes
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Obama Scrambles For Cover As Benghazi Lie Explodes
The carefully coordinated and heavily armed September 11th strike upon the American Consulate in Libya contradicted President Obama’s repeated narrative that, thanks to his tough policies and actions, al-Qaeda has been defeated. And although misrepresented by U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice as a “spontaneous outbreak†of violence provoked by a “hateful†movie denigrating Muslim prophet Muhammad, he and other high members of his administration knew full well and early on that this was patently untrue. Congressional testimony reveals that the White House had been informed on day one that al-Qaeda terrorists were responsible for the murders of U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans in Benghazi.
For more than a week after the Benghazi attack, the Obama administration which pledged to be the “most transparent administration in historyâ€, continued to maintain a ruse that the outbreak of violence was nothing more than a spur-of-the-moment protest in response to the offensive video. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton repeated the fiction, and White House press spokesman Jay Carney told us all that there was “no evidence†that this was a “preplanned or premeditated attack.â€
An October 2nd CNN report disagreed. It revealed that the administration repeatedly sent out talking points that contradicted top intelligence officials and sources for the network on the details of what caused the attack. It also said that: “CNN has learned tonight that the White House chose to leave out key intelligence from the attacks on Americans in Libya. There are three things U.S. intelligence has now confirmed to be true: the attacks were preplanned, terrorist attacks, and the work of Al-Qaeda- linked groups. None of these three points were in talking points distributed to congress and other government officials. U.S. intelligence knew of the al-Qaeda link within 24 hours of the attacks. And the now infamous comments by U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice that the attacks were not preplanned and not the work of terror came four days after that. This doesn’t add up.â€
In addition to absolutely no evidence that the attack was connected to any objectionable video, information released in a letter from Representative Darrell Issa to Secretary of State Clinton shows that the situation in Libya had been deteriorating for months. It reads: “Based on information provided to the committee by individuals with direct knowledge of events in Libya, the attack that claimed the ambassador’s life was the latest in a long line of attacks on Western diplomats and officials in Libya in the months leading up to September 11, 2012.â€
Those attacks began in April when two Libyans threw an improvised explosive device into the consulate compound. In June, postings on a pro-Gaddafi Facebook page encouraged Libyans to attack Ambassador Stevens during one of his early morning runs around Tripoli. And in the weeks leading up to September 11th, Libyan guards were being warned by their family members to quit their consulate jobs because of rumors about an impending attack. These are but a few of the escalating series of incidents. There were also carjackings, shoot-outs, and even a rocket-propelled grenade being shot at a convoy carrying the British ambassador.
It is now evident that al-Qaeda hit four, not just one, embassies last month, with none of the other three ever attributable to a video either. The Weekly Standard reports that in addition to the American Consulate in Libya, terrorists tied to the same group that attacked our homeland on 9/11 were also behind U.S. Embassy sieges in Egypt, Tunisia, and Yemen. All were timed around the 9/11 anniversary.
One of the most ironic and inexcusable aspects of the fatal Benghazi tragedy is that Ambassador Stevens, who after recognizing and communicating the special 9/11 security threat, was denied protection he requested. Yet remarkably, Vice President Joe Biden claimed during last Thursday’s debate that the administration was unaware of security requests. This seemingly contradicted evidence presented to the Congressional Oversight and Government Reform Committee just a day earlier. Biden said “We weren’t told they wanted more security, we did not know they wanted more security.†But if so, why wouldn’t the president, vice president and secretary of state have been be briefed?
During the debate, Representative Paul Ryan accused the Obama administration of having an “unraveling†foreign policy, pointing particularly to “the larger failures of the administration to be completely transparent about the terrorist attacks in Benghazi and the security situations leading up to the attacks.†He rhetorically asked Biden, “This was Libya…a country we knew had al-Qaeda cells. And we did not give our ambassador in Benghazi a marine detachment?â€
The congressional committee was presented with a diplomatic cable sent by Stevens to the state department in Washington on August 2nd asking for an additional 11 security personnel to be added to the rotation of 24. Though the 11 were to replace temporary security staff, Stevens had made it clear that violence and terrorism were a threat amid a volatile political landscape. He wrote: “Due to the level of threat in regards to crime, political violence and terrorism, post feels this is an appropriate number of LES [locally employed staff] security personnel needed to further embassy diplomatic outreach missions. Violent security incidents continue to take place due to the lack of a coherent national Libyan security force and the strength of local militias and large numbers of armed groups.†He further emphasized that “Host national security support is lacking and cannot be depended on to provide a safe and secure environment.â€
Two former U.S. security chiefs in Libya who testified before the committee also reported that they had found it impossible to get the message across back home that security was a critical problem. Andrew Wood, former head of a U.S. military team in Libya, told the committee that “…the security in Benghazi was a struggle and remained a struggle throughout my time thereâ€. He added that the head of U.S. security in the region had pushed for more people “…but was never able to attain the numbers he felt comfortable with.â€
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For more than a week after the Benghazi attack, the Obama administration which pledged to be the “most transparent administration in historyâ€, continued to maintain a ruse that the outbreak of violence was nothing more than a spur-of-the-moment protest in response to the offensive video. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton repeated the fiction, and White House press spokesman Jay Carney told us all that there was “no evidence†that this was a “preplanned or premeditated attack.â€
An October 2nd CNN report disagreed. It revealed that the administration repeatedly sent out talking points that contradicted top intelligence officials and sources for the network on the details of what caused the attack. It also said that: “CNN has learned tonight that the White House chose to leave out key intelligence from the attacks on Americans in Libya. There are three things U.S. intelligence has now confirmed to be true: the attacks were preplanned, terrorist attacks, and the work of Al-Qaeda- linked groups. None of these three points were in talking points distributed to congress and other government officials. U.S. intelligence knew of the al-Qaeda link within 24 hours of the attacks. And the now infamous comments by U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice that the attacks were not preplanned and not the work of terror came four days after that. This doesn’t add up.â€
In addition to absolutely no evidence that the attack was connected to any objectionable video, information released in a letter from Representative Darrell Issa to Secretary of State Clinton shows that the situation in Libya had been deteriorating for months. It reads: “Based on information provided to the committee by individuals with direct knowledge of events in Libya, the attack that claimed the ambassador’s life was the latest in a long line of attacks on Western diplomats and officials in Libya in the months leading up to September 11, 2012.â€
Those attacks began in April when two Libyans threw an improvised explosive device into the consulate compound. In June, postings on a pro-Gaddafi Facebook page encouraged Libyans to attack Ambassador Stevens during one of his early morning runs around Tripoli. And in the weeks leading up to September 11th, Libyan guards were being warned by their family members to quit their consulate jobs because of rumors about an impending attack. These are but a few of the escalating series of incidents. There were also carjackings, shoot-outs, and even a rocket-propelled grenade being shot at a convoy carrying the British ambassador.
It is now evident that al-Qaeda hit four, not just one, embassies last month, with none of the other three ever attributable to a video either. The Weekly Standard reports that in addition to the American Consulate in Libya, terrorists tied to the same group that attacked our homeland on 9/11 were also behind U.S. Embassy sieges in Egypt, Tunisia, and Yemen. All were timed around the 9/11 anniversary.
One of the most ironic and inexcusable aspects of the fatal Benghazi tragedy is that Ambassador Stevens, who after recognizing and communicating the special 9/11 security threat, was denied protection he requested. Yet remarkably, Vice President Joe Biden claimed during last Thursday’s debate that the administration was unaware of security requests. This seemingly contradicted evidence presented to the Congressional Oversight and Government Reform Committee just a day earlier. Biden said “We weren’t told they wanted more security, we did not know they wanted more security.†But if so, why wouldn’t the president, vice president and secretary of state have been be briefed?
During the debate, Representative Paul Ryan accused the Obama administration of having an “unraveling†foreign policy, pointing particularly to “the larger failures of the administration to be completely transparent about the terrorist attacks in Benghazi and the security situations leading up to the attacks.†He rhetorically asked Biden, “This was Libya…a country we knew had al-Qaeda cells. And we did not give our ambassador in Benghazi a marine detachment?â€
The congressional committee was presented with a diplomatic cable sent by Stevens to the state department in Washington on August 2nd asking for an additional 11 security personnel to be added to the rotation of 24. Though the 11 were to replace temporary security staff, Stevens had made it clear that violence and terrorism were a threat amid a volatile political landscape. He wrote: “Due to the level of threat in regards to crime, political violence and terrorism, post feels this is an appropriate number of LES [locally employed staff] security personnel needed to further embassy diplomatic outreach missions. Violent security incidents continue to take place due to the lack of a coherent national Libyan security force and the strength of local militias and large numbers of armed groups.†He further emphasized that “Host national security support is lacking and cannot be depended on to provide a safe and secure environment.â€
Two former U.S. security chiefs in Libya who testified before the committee also reported that they had found it impossible to get the message across back home that security was a critical problem. Andrew Wood, former head of a U.S. military team in Libya, told the committee that “…the security in Benghazi was a struggle and remained a struggle throughout my time thereâ€. He added that the head of U.S. security in the region had pushed for more people “…but was never able to attain the numbers he felt comfortable with.â€
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It's hard to get that many lies and that much stupid in one post.
Thanks for showing it to us.
Thanks for showing it to us.
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Don't thank me for the lies. Those are Obama's.Stinger wrote:It's hard to get that many lies and that much stupid in one post.
Thanks for showing it to us.
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This administration is lying on so many fronts regarding these murders it is impossible to keep up with them.
A new lie is started everyday by the administration. One would think Obama would put the country first. Now that was a stupid thought.
A new lie is started everyday by the administration. One would think Obama would put the country first. Now that was a stupid thought.
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It sure is funny that someone who claims to know these lies has yet to prove one to be a lie.Tertius wrote:This administration is lying on so many fronts regarding these murders it is impossible to keep up with them.
A new lie is started everyday by the administration. One would think Obama would put the country first. Now that was a stupid thought.
It's funny that someone who posts lies about gay conspiracies would turn around and accuse someone else of lying.
Actually, it's not that funny. It's typical right-wing extreme BS.
SSDD.
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Riiiiight.gongoozler wrote:Don't thank me for the lies. Those are Obama's.
Your author is also the author of "Climate of Corruption: Politics and Power Behind the Global Warming Hoax", and endless highly dishonest "Global Warming Hoax" articles. His level of honestly is well-established.
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It has been proven that the State Department has the authority to deploy Marines to protect embassies and consulates.
It has been proven none were deployed to protect Ambassador Stevens.
It has been proven that in August a Special Forces was in Libya to protect Americans.
It has been proven that when they were rotated out, none were rotated in.
It has been proven that Ambassador Stevens himself requested more protection time and time again.
It has been proven that our embassy and consulate in Libya had been attacked several times.
It has been proven that the attack was planed.
It has been proven that the Obama administrations lied repeatedly about the cause of the attack.
It has been proven that the attack was not spontaneous.
It has been proven that indirect fire was use in the attack.
It has been proven that fire adjustments were made form inside the consulate walls.
It has been proven that the two men that died in the attack were ordered to stand down and not help people at the consulate.
It has been proven that these two men risk their careers and eventually lost their lives saving other Americans.
It has been proven that one drone was over the consulate when the attack started.
It has been proven that the attack expanded form the consulate to another secured area.
It has been proven that the attack lasted so long that a second drone had to replace the first.
It has been proven that is that occurred then help could have been given to those under attack.
It has been proven that for hours these men under attack ask for help for help.
It has been proven that nothing was wrong with communications between those under attack and the White House.
It has been proven that those request for help were denied.
It has been proven that Stevens was instructed by Obama to deliver weapons to Libya.
It has been proven that Stevens did not approve of whose hands these weapons were going to.
It has been proven that there was no signs that Stevens was heterosexual.
It has been proven that the Muslims kill and often mutilate the bodies of homosexuals.
It has been proven that the administration wall to wall from the beginning to now and ongoing are lying about these murders.
When you repeatedly say there is no proof; that does not make it so. Everyone knows you bring nothing to a discussion. You are nothing more than an empty pair of shoes.
It has been proven none were deployed to protect Ambassador Stevens.
It has been proven that in August a Special Forces was in Libya to protect Americans.
It has been proven that when they were rotated out, none were rotated in.
It has been proven that Ambassador Stevens himself requested more protection time and time again.
It has been proven that our embassy and consulate in Libya had been attacked several times.
It has been proven that the attack was planed.
It has been proven that the Obama administrations lied repeatedly about the cause of the attack.
It has been proven that the attack was not spontaneous.
It has been proven that indirect fire was use in the attack.
It has been proven that fire adjustments were made form inside the consulate walls.
It has been proven that the two men that died in the attack were ordered to stand down and not help people at the consulate.
It has been proven that these two men risk their careers and eventually lost their lives saving other Americans.
It has been proven that one drone was over the consulate when the attack started.
It has been proven that the attack expanded form the consulate to another secured area.
It has been proven that the attack lasted so long that a second drone had to replace the first.
It has been proven that is that occurred then help could have been given to those under attack.
It has been proven that for hours these men under attack ask for help for help.
It has been proven that nothing was wrong with communications between those under attack and the White House.
It has been proven that those request for help were denied.
It has been proven that Stevens was instructed by Obama to deliver weapons to Libya.
It has been proven that Stevens did not approve of whose hands these weapons were going to.
It has been proven that there was no signs that Stevens was heterosexual.
It has been proven that the Muslims kill and often mutilate the bodies of homosexuals.
It has been proven that the administration wall to wall from the beginning to now and ongoing are lying about these murders.
When you repeatedly say there is no proof; that does not make it so. Everyone knows you bring nothing to a discussion. You are nothing more than an empty pair of shoes.
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Nope, some of the folks who sent the CIA packing said that the move was the cause of
the attack. Of course compared to a wingnutty armchair general first class, what would
they know?
the attack. Of course compared to a wingnutty armchair general first class, what would
they know?

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Like any coverup it will eventually break down. Someone will spill the beans. It probably will not be before the election, but it will happen. That being said, I do believe many more Americans are tuning in on this issue right now and that will affect the election. How much will never be known, but if one trusts the trends it seems to be having some effect now.
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Yup. Just like someone will spill the beans and provide evidence that Obama was born in Kenya. It's only been four years of such accusation. Any second now....Supsalemgr wrote:Like any coverup it will eventually break down. Someone will spill the beans.
Just like someone will spill the beans and provide evidence that Obama is the commie marxist socialist the Republicans say he is - in such a way that doesn't also to Republican policy. Any second now.
Just like someone will spill the beans on a hundred other all-accusation-no-evidence Republican claims.
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Tertius wrote:It has been proven that the State Department has the authority to deploy Marines to protect embassies and consulates.
Irrelevant BS. Marine Embassy Guards were never in the picture in Libya.
It has been proven none were deployed to protect Ambassador Stevens.
Irrelevant BS. Marine Embassy Guards were never in the picture in Libya.
It has been proven that in August a Special Forces was in Libya to protect Americans.
And finished their tour of duty and rotated out.
It has been proven that when they were rotated out, none were rotated in.
And?
It has been testified to in Congress that a mid-level State Department employee, Charlene Lamb, denied the security requests, adhering to current SD policies. It has also been testified to that having an extra half-dozen agents in Benghazi would not have stopped that attack.
It has been proven that Ambassador Stevens himself requested more protection time and time again.
And?
It has been proven that our embassy and consulate in Libya had been attacked several times.
No, it hasn't. Sounds like just more BS you made up.
It has been proven that the attack was planed.
Planed? The militia has an air force? Why didn't they use it?
There's planning, and then there's planning. You know an area in a city, you say, "Joe, you and Bob cover the corner at First and Main. Bill, you and Jim cover the corner at Second and Second."
The planning could have taken as little as an hour. There is NO evidence of any long-term planning.
It has been proven that the Obama administrations lied repeatedly about the cause of the attack.
Lie.
It has been proven that dimwitted wingnuts keep thinking "militia" and "anger over video" are magically mutually exclusive. They're not.
It has been proven that the attack was not spontaneous.
And?
Only Susan Rice called it spontaneous.
There's spontaneous and there's spontaneous. One "spontaneous" is "Let's attack the U.S. embassy." "Okay, we'er out of here." Another spontaneous is "Okay, let's make a plan." An hour later, you're on your way.
It has been proven that indirect fire was use in the attack.
And?
It has been proven that fire adjustments were made form inside the consulate walls.
And?
It has been proven that the two men that died in the attack were ordered to stand down and not help people at the consulate.
Lie.
It has been proven that these two men risk their careers and eventually lost their lives saving other Americans.
The first part's a lie.
It has been proven that one drone was over the consulate when the attack started.
Lie. Hours after the attack began, a already-airborn drone was ordered to observe the embassy. A replacement drone (fuel?) was later sent up.
It has been proven that the attack expanded form the consulate to another secured area.
And?
It has been proven that the attack lasted so long that a second drone had to replace the first.
And?
It has been proven that is that occurred then help could have been given to those under attack.
Lie. It has been stated by the military that you don't send forces into harm's way without accurate intel.
It has been proven that for hours these men under attack ask for help for help.
It's also proven that the attack stopped for four hours and that people thought the attack had ended.
It has been proven that nothing was wrong with communications between those under attack and the White House.
They didn't have direct communications with the White House.
It has been proven that those request for help were denied.
But not by whom.
It has been proven that Stevens was instructed by Obama to deliver weapons to Libya.
And?
It has been proven that Stevens did not approve of whose hands these weapons were going to.
Lie
It has been proven that there was no signs that Stevens was heterosexual.
And? There are no signs that you or I are heterosexual. Does that make both of us gay?
It has been proven that the Muslims kill and often mutilate the bodies of homosexuals.
Lie. Some sects kill, but there is no record of habitual mutilation.
It has been proven that the administration wall to wall from the beginning to now and ongoing are lying about these murders.
Lie.
When you repeatedly say there is no proof; that does not make it so.
Just because you claim something has been proved does not make it so. The fact that you say it is true does not make it so. The fact that you really, really, really, really, really want it to be true does not make it so.
What would make it true would be corroborating evidence from a credible source. You have brought nothing but baseless speculation and irrelevant drivel that proves nothing.
Everyone knows you bring nothing to a discussion.
You're projecting your shortcomings onto others. You have brought nothing to the discussion but lunatical supposition and conjecture.
And the funniest part is that even if all the wingnuttery above were true, it still wouldn't support your far-right delusions about some conspiracy to sacrifice Chris Stevens.
And you don't get that.
You are nothing more than an empty pair of shoes.
And yet you can't keep up with me.
If you were a lot smarter, you'd be smart enough to know that.
And the funniest part is that even if all the wingnuttery above were true, it still wouldn't support your far-right delusions about some conspiracy to sacrifice Chris Stevens.
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The lefty loons are really funny on this subject.
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They just can't bring themselves to believe Obama just isn't God Like. You know most politicians lie but Obama may stretch the truth some. And they believe this junk!! 

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I told you two weeks ago this entire thing will become a non issue, and it will. But hang in there; perhaps something disastrous will happen to the US and then you can be happy.Supsalemgr wrote:Like any coverup it will eventually break down. Someone will spill the beans. It probably will not be before the election, but it will happen. That being said, I do believe many more Americans are tuning in on this issue right now and that will affect the election. How much will never be known, but if one trusts the trends it seems to be having some effect now.
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Imaginations run high when there is nothing of substance for a lib to post. Just where in thei entire thread is there any mention of something disastrous might happen?
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Now there's the pot calling the kettle stupid. .. .Supsalemgr wrote:Imaginations run high when there is nothing of substance for a lib to post.

If it were not for hypocrisy and innuendo.. . you rightwing nitwits would be silent... .
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That's your entire scenario....wishing for something that will make the leader of our (your) country look bad. That's what you and your kind wish for on a daily basis. Just because you can't recognize it doesn't mean others can't. Hang in there....most of the east coast refineries have been shut down, so gas prices will probably go up for the next few weeks.....at least you have something to smile about.Supsalemgr wrote:Imaginations run high when there is nothing of substance for a lib to post. Just where in thei entire thread is there any mention of something disastrous might happen?
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Now that's the truth.. these rightwing extremists never let their love for America interfere with their hate for Americans..neoplacebo wrote:.at least you have something to smile about.
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I don't have to wish for Obama for Obama to do something stupid everyday. He takes care of that himself.



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We want America to be successful again. That's why we're voting for Romney.