Credit Where Credit is Due

[rstrong]

Are you one of those conspiracy Hendernuts that believes that Obama's father was not Barack Obama, Sr., A KENYAN CITIZEN?

By bloodline and heredity, Obama is half Kenyan at least.

Likewise, Mitt Romney is a Mexican.

[billy.pilgrim]

Are you one of those conspiracy Hendernuts that believes that Obama's father was not Barack Obama, Sr., A KENYAN CITIZEN?

By bloodline and heredity, Obama is half Kenyan at least.

Likewise, Mitt Romney is a Mexican.

he be an anchor baby, just like michelle malkin

[Bungalow Bill]

The only good Zionist is a dead Zionist.

[Stinger]

A Let's hope that Obama finally grasps the obvious fact that these Palestinians are cowardly terrorists that should be dealt with accordingly. and always have been.

"These Palestinians," the ones who are shooting the rockets, yes. What makes you think Obama hasn't already grasped that fact? You seem to "know" much that isn't so . . . and little that is.

But the large majority of Palestinians are not cowardly terrorists.

[Supsalemgr]

The only good Zionist is a dead Zionist.

would Bunghy please expalin his post and why?

[Reality]

Because Bungalow is a flaming bigot and an idiot.

[mama]

Well, Obama did say on one of the late night talks shows that he and Romney played together as boys in Kenya.

[mama]

Well, Obama did say on one of the late night talks shows that he and Romney played together as boys in Kenya.

Trump, not Mitten.

You are right. *smites self*

[Bungalow Bill]

Because if you don't kill them, they'll wind up owning you, just as they did back in 1948,
and as they are doing now in the West Bank, which is just a slow motion version of 1948.
Before you know it, you're left with very little.

[k9nanny]

Zionist is a political description, not a religious or ethnic one. "Reality" is an idiot, again.

many Jews are anti-Zionist, not that I expect the blindly pro-Israel knee-jerkers to do their homework.

[Crock Hunter]

if Obama could have become a full citizen of Kenya and was born to a Kenyan father.....HE'S A KENYAN.

On your ignorant Romney comparison, Romney's grandfather was a missionary and not a native of Mexico.

Rmoney's father was born in Mexico...By your tormented logic Mittens is as much Mexican as Obama is Kenyan... i.e. Not.. .

Looks like having your ass handed to you hasn't taught you a damn thing.. .

[rstrong]

So, if Obama could have become a full citizen of Kenya and was born to a Kenyan father.....HE'S A KENYAN. Got it now, dumbass?

The rule change which gave him a hypothetical Kenyan citizenship - only while he was a child - came after he was born in America and with him never having even visited Kenya.

Obama had the option of taking Kenyan citizenship, and he did not take it. He is 100% a natural born American citizen. He's a Kenyan only in the sense that an American, born in America but with recent Irish ancestry, is IRISH.

That you choose to call him Kenyan, not American, not British (not just through the citizenship his father had when Obama was born, but also through his mother's ancestry) tells us a lot more about you than about Obama. And what it tells us ain't pretty.

On your ignorant Romney comparison, Romney's grandfather was a missionary and not a native of Mexico.

Romney's grandparents did not go to Mexico as missionaries; they emigrated to Mexico, because the US outlawed polygmy. There's some question about whether they renounced their U.S. citizenship when they emigrated.

Romney's father was born in Mexico. A person born in Mexico is a Mexican citizen by birth. (Because his parents were Americans, he was also eligible for American citizenship.) By your own logic, that makes Mitt Romney a Mexican.

The previous Republican presidential candidate, John McCain, was born a Panamanian in Panama. (He got his American citizenship retroactively when the rules changed 11 months later.)

But you're only fixated on the black guy's ancestry.

[Bungalow Bill]

Big O won, who cares what the crazy nutjobs are saying. You lost, loser.

At least Hamas now has rockets that can reach Tel Aviv and Jerusalem.
Thank you Mr. Mullah.

[rstrong]

Not necessarily. Most legal scholars argue that any child born to a citizen anywhere is a natural-born-citizen.

There are two common definitions for "natural born citizen": "Born on US soil", and "A US citizen at the moment of birth."

John McCain was born in Panama, a Panamanian citizen. He only got his US citizenship retroactively when Congress changed the rules 11 months after he was born. Congress wisely granted an exemption to McCain so that he could run.

Mitt Romney's father did not meet the first standard. Arguably he met the second - the arguement being over his parents having emmigrated to Mexico rather than just visiting there.

If your kid was born in Mexico to American parents, don't count on automatic American citizenship; you need a few things first. Starting with a Mexican birth certificate and a Consular Report of Birth Abroad (CRBA).

[rstrong]

At least Hamas now has rockets that can reach Tel Aviv and Jerusalem.

It does make flattening the area around any launch site more acceptable on the international stage.

[billy.pilgrim]

if Obama could have become a full citizen of Kenya and was born to a Kenyan father.....HE'S A KENYAN.

On your ignorant Romney comparison, Romney's grandfather was a missionary and not a native of Mexico.

Rmoney's father was born in Mexico...By your tormented logic Mittens is as much Mexican as Obama is Kenyan... i.e. Not.. .

Looks like having your ass handed to you hasn't taught you a damn thing.. .

wasn't mitten's grandpaw some crazy American hating radical who fled to Mexico and denounced the laws of the USA?

[billy.pilgrim]

hey banni, I think ya got the dunald posting on your forum


pretty cool, huh?

[GoCubsGo]

So, I guess that makes Bobby Jindal an Indian........

[rstrong]

But there' a pretty strong difference between birth to American parents in another country (George Romney) and a birth father (Obama,Sr.) who was born to natives of another continent.

Both Obama and Romney were born in America. Both had a father born in another country, with foreign citizenship, to parents settled in another country. If Obama is Kenyan, then Romney is Mexican.

Romney is not Hispanic; get it?

Not all Mexicans are Hispanic. Romney does on the other hand speak French....

You still are too stupid to challenge the fact that by bloodline (permanent) and by governmental rules (Obama was Kenyan citizen until 23 years old), Obama was and is KENYAN.

By bloodline he's Kenyan in the same way that almost every other American is Irish, German, Italian or other nationality. And funny that you ignore his mother's side, from the British isles.

By government rules he's American, period. He was born in America, an American citizen. Unless he were to move to Kenya as a child - he didn't - Kenya's regulations are as relevent to his citizenship as they are to YOURS.

[rstrong]

So, I guess that makes Bobby Jindal an Indian........

And Marco Rubio a Cuban.

Both have been discussed as future Republican presidential candidates.