The Ten Commandments which are the basis of the society in the West have very similar types of rules in the other societies as well. An there is no human society on Earth which has not been regulated by some set of the rules - no total freedom - anywhere.
Commandment Any laws about it?
Thou shalt have no other gods NOPE
No graven images or likenesses NOPE
Not take the LORD's name in vain NOPE
Remember the sabbath day NOPE
Honour thy father and thy mother NOPE
Thou shalt not kill Give ya that one, but laws were saying this long before this was written.
Thou shalt not commit adultery NOPE
Thou shalt not steal Give ya that one, but laws were saying this long before this was written.
Thou shalt not bear false witness Depends on the circumstances AFAIK
Thou shalt not covet NOPE
Commandment-------------------------Any laws about it?
Thou shalt have no other gods-----------Not necessarily a definition of an entity.
No graven images or likenesses----------NOPE
Not take the LORD's name in vain-------It used to be before cursing in public became stylish.
Remember the sabbath day--------------It used to be before greed and hate consumed people's minds.
Honour thy father and thy mother-------Respect for parents used to be an unwritten law. Children no longer respect their parents. They'd just as soon shoot them.
Thou shalt not kill-------------------------Give ya that one, but laws were saying this long before this was written.
Thou shalt not commit adultery----------It used to be before human morals evolved into another form of gutter life.
Thou shalt not steal-----------------------Give ya that one, but laws were saying this long before this was written.
Thou shalt not bear false witness--------Try lying in court. If you have any conscience at all, lies will come back to haunt you.
Thou shalt not covet----------------------Same as stealing or lying, if it involves your desire to own what is not yours.
Vrede wrote:Leo Lyons, I think banni was mocking Silvia's suggestion that our law reflects the Ten Commandments when it never has, not engaging in the value judgments and cultural issues you discuss.
Agreed, but I couldn't resist taking a jab at his post because of changes in human nature just in the last few decades.
As someone once said in a post, "the Ten Commandments have been turned into the Ten Suggestions". (I think it was the homiefobe what said it)
You think human nature has changed?
Hardly. Archaic laws based on archaic, patriarchal supernaturalism have changed, and we still have a long way to go.
Laws or traditions opposing killing, stealing, and lying were born from our instinct for survival. These things are wrong within the tribe, if that tribe is to survive and flourish. Of course, killing, lying and stealing are just peachy used against the enemy. Again, survival.
GREED. Human nature is all about greed. The greediest puppy in the whelping box is also the strongest.
Vrede wrote:Leo Lyons, I think banni was mocking Silvia's suggestion that our law reflects the Ten Commandments when it never has, not engaging in the value judgments and cultural issues you discuss.
Agreed, but I couldn't resist taking a jab at his post because of changes in human nature just in the last few decades.
As someone once said in a post, "the Ten Commandments have been turned into the Ten Suggestions". (I think it was the homiefobe what said it)
You mean changes like crime rates trending downwards???
With 24 hour bad news I can see how you can think the world is getting worse, but it ain't! Note to mention I believe the statistics overall support that there is less crime in less religious states. OOPS.... makes sense where the prison population hardly contains any atheists.
"Being nice to others and cooperating with them aren't uniquely human traits. Frans de Waal, director of Emory University's Living Links Center at the Yerkes National Primate Research Center in Lawrenceville, Georgia, studies how our close primate relatives also demonstrate behaviors suggestive of a sense of morality.
De Waal recently published a book called "The Bonobo and the Atheist: In Search of Humanism Among the Primates," which synthesizes evidence that there are biological roots in human fairness, and explores what that means for the role of religion in human societies. CNN's Kelly Murray recently spoke with De Waal about the book."
bannination wrote:Silvia.... or in my opinion "Solar's Toy":
The Ten Commandments which are the basis of the society in the West have very similar types of rules in the other societies as well. An there is no human society on Earth which has not been regulated by some set of the rules - no total freedom - anywhere.
Commandment Any laws about it?
Thou shalt have no other gods NOPE
No graven images or likenesses NOPE
Not take the LORD's name in vain NOPE
Remember the sabbath day NOPE
Honour thy father and thy mother NOPE
Thou shalt not kill Give ya that one, but laws were saying this long before this was written.
Thou shalt not commit adultery NOPE
Thou shalt not steal Give ya that one, but laws were saying this long before this was written.
Thou shalt not bear false witness Depends on the circumstances AFAIK
Thou shalt not covet NOPE
You fail Silvia.
It is, in fact, against the law to utter profanity on public highways in NC if more than one person can hear said profanity....I guess if you're out there cussing and fuming all by yourself, you're ok. Lots of places don't allow alcohol sales on Sundays, and lots of other places restrict its sale to hours after noon...to me, that's remembering the Sabbath day. Last time I checked, there is a long and storied tradition in this country of observing Mother's Day and Father's Day....I don't think it's for nuns and priests exclusively, though. Adultery is illegal in the US military. Hell, consensual sex used to be illegal in many states unless the consentees are married. Bearing false witness is also referred to as perjury.....I think it's even a felony. Sylvia, as your attorney, I advise you to shut up.
The ten suggestions thing is likely as old as that Adam and Steve thing. Old and tired.
Since atheists make up such a tiny percentage of the population, I doubt there are
many in prison either. And finding Jesus after you've done your crime is always a good
idea. That's the great thing about the Christian religion. You can be a serial killer, become
born again and wind up in heaven. Yippee. With so many other good curse words and
phrases out there, goddamn just doesn't do it anymore.
I guess it's too much to ask of these clowns to Google "Laws of ancient Egypt" or ancient China or maybe read Homer and see if they can explain how the Ten Commandments affected those similar laws and whether anything from any of those cultures affected "society in the West."
O Really wrote:I guess it's too much to ask of these clowns to Google "Laws of ancient Egypt" or ancient China or maybe read Homer and see if they can explain how the Ten Commandments affected those similar laws and whether anything from any of those cultures affected "society in the West."
Doesn't matter, Homer and his boys China and Egypt should've accepted Jesus into their hearts when they had the chance.
You aren't doing it wrong if no one knows what you are doing.
It's not that most people find some of the concepts expressed in the Ten Commandments unreasonable. It's that you can't use a specific passage from one religion's manifesto to create law in a country that has a "freedom of religion" provision in its Constitution. There are a lot of arguments why "thou shalt not murder" is good law. Why don't they understand they need to use one other than "the Christian God said so."
It appears to me that written laws are based on that countries particular major religious beliefs, with a few additions that would dictate common sense
and decency be used. Since religion is being tossed down the drain, common sense and decency is being tossed along with it.
Leo Lyons wrote:It appears to me that written laws are based on that countries particular major religious beliefs, with a few additions that would dictate common sense
and decency be used. Since religion is being tossed down the drain, common sense and decency is being tossed along with it.
Without doubt the prevalent beliefs of a society affects its laws. and a lot of countries have not distinguished between the Church and the ruling power. Seems that was one of the issues in the US revolution. But laws being influenced by prevalent beliefs isn't the same as creating law directly from the tenets of a particular religion. Small but realistic example: if most people in a town go to church on Sunday and don't want stores open during church hours, they can pass an ordinance that a place of business may not operate between certain hours, and couch it for reasons of "provide rest time for employees" or some such claptrap. But if they pass the ordinance because "the Bible says rest on Sunday" they've got a problem.
Vrede wrote:Shops they can get away with, largely because even atheist shop owners like that they can have the day off without losing out to the competition. However, if they tried, "The Bible says football players must rest on Sunday," they've got a huge problem. Well, except for Tim Tebow "resting" on the bench.
People ask why do laws have to be so complicated and full of legalese. It's because of carve-out exceptions and exclusions. It also keeps a lot of lawyers in nice toys.
Well, except for Tim Tebow "resting" on the bench.