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I wouldn't be surprised if there are ways around it, waivers, exceptions, flim-flam, yada.
I do know the cities I worked for in Florida as well as the Spartanburg County Sheriff's department took that requirement seriously.

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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Sat Aug 03, 2019 12:27 pm
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Florida:
Not have been convicted of any felony or of a misdemeanor involving perjury or false statement.

Any person who, after July 1, 1981, pleads guilty or nolo contendere to, or is found guilty of a felony, or of a misdemeanor involving perjury or a false statement, shall not be eligible for employment or appointment as an officer, not-withstanding suspension of sentence or withholding of adjudication.

Alabama:
Has a felony conviction (A pardon or nolo contendre does not nullify a conviction for this rule).

Has a domestic violence conviction or a documented history of domestic reports or calls for law enforcement intervention into domestic incidents. The history will be evaluated to determine if the candidate is the predominant aggressor. Should a candidate have a pending Protection from Abuse filed against them and/or a standing judicial order regarding a Protection from Abuse will be disqualified, but may resubmit upon the Protection from Abuse being adjudicated.

No person who has been convicted of a felony shall be certified, employed, appointed, or approved by the commission as a law enforcement officer.

Could be different in Mississippi or other third world places.
Seems like a reasonable regulation. I wonder about the time frame. It seems like there have been felon cops and sheriffs in the past or at least some in old movies.
I had forgotten about this until O Really mentioned Alabama and domestic violence convictions. In Alaska neither felonies nor domestic violence convictions are statutory disqualifiers.
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Business as usual in a con anti-tax state:
Alaska's Police Crisis: Every Cop in This Village Has Been Convicted of Domestic Violence

... Due to the remote location of the village and the $14 an hour salary, applicants willing to take the role are often limited to ex-convicts.

In addition, only one officer from the seven-man police force has received formal law enforcement training.

Nimeron Mike applied to be a cop with the station late last December. He never expected his application to be successful. After all, he was a registered sex offender who had recently served six years in an Alaska jail. His criminal record also listed a slew of various crimes, including assault, domestic violence, vehicle theft, groping a woman, hindering prosecution, reckless driving and drunk driving....

In 2017, the current police chief in Stebbins pleaded guilty to forcing a teenager to the ground and threatening to end her life. The official, who was not identified in the article, was intoxicated at the time, despite alcohol being outlawed in the village where the crime occurred.
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https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/ ... 214279002/

"Many ended up running small forces in places without the inclination to do basic background checks or without the wherewithal to penetrate the secretive and haphazard systems that can hide police misconduct even from the police."
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
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https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/ ... 214279002/

"Many ended up running small forces in places without the inclination to do basic background checks or without the wherewithal to penetrate the secretive and haphazard systems that can hide police misconduct even from the police."
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https://www.denverpost.com/2016/01/22/c ... ckgrounds/



Colorado grants waivers to police applicants with criminal backgrounds
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If I were making the rules, I wouldn't necessarily make conviction of a felony and automatic disqualification. Depending on what it was, when it was, and what has happened since, it might be forgivable. But I would have a list of unforgivable things, too, which would include any domestic violence, assault conviction, or break-in at the doughnut shop.

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If I were making the rules, I wouldn't necessarily make conviction of a felony and automatic disqualification. Depending on what it was, when it was, and what has happened since, it might be forgivable. But I would have a list of unforgivable things, too, which would include any domestic violence, assault conviction, or break-in at the doughnut shop.
:D Bad cop, no doughnut.

I think FL's "convicted of ... a misdemeanor involving perjury or false statement" is a good one, too. We know how cops are. I'd also include any conviction where a person died or an animal was injured.
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But, "I was eating prickly pears,”

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ar ... r-n1040626


"Witnesses said they called police after Thomas Bartram, 21, made threatening comments to people and brandished a knife" (and a gun while wearing latex gloves at immigrant center in El Paso) "while sitting in his truck outside of community center Casa Carmelita. His truck was emblazoned with pro-Trump banners and bumper stickers promoting InfoWars"


"the El Paso Police Department tweeted on Thursday. “The subject was detained, interviewed and released after it was determined that no criminal offense had been committed.”

I hadn't realized that threatening people with a knife and a gun was legal. Leo, is this one off those white people rules?

https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live ... e-me/n9308

"Bartram acknowledged he was legally carrying a pistol but denied waving it around, and said the gloves and knife could be explained. “I was eating prickly pears,” he said. The white powder was a protein supplement, Bartram said he takes along with other Alex Jones’ branded nutritional supplements.
Bartram is no longer in El Paso but on his way to Portland, Oregon, to attend a protest that local officials have warned is expected to turn violent."


Oh yeah, the trumpette said that the shooting could be a false flag.

Since we are now blaming systems that don't detain and remove guns from batshit crazy folk, shouldn't we remove all weapons from all Alex Jones listeners?
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
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... Since we are now blaming systems that don't detain and remove guns from batshit crazy folk, shouldn't we remove all weapons from all Alex Jones listeners?
Plastic knives and Vespas only, and I'm a little nervous about the Vespas.
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Victory! After Massive Push From Advocacy Groups, 8 Banks Are Pulling Back From Private Prison Financing

The Families Belong Together Corporate Accountability Committee released the following statement in response to U.S. Bancorp and Barclays joining this list:

US Bancorp and Barclays’ decisions to not refinance existing commitments with the private prison industry is another tremendous win in an effort by more than 100 organizations in the Families Belong Together Corporate Accountability Committee to cut off the financing of an industry profiting from the pain and suffering of families.

Due to recent bank decisions to end financing of private prisons, it is estimated that even before recent announcements from US Bancorp and Barclays, private prison corporations like CoreCivic and GEO Group stood to lose 72 percent of the total current financing available, an estimated $1.93 billion. The power of our grassroots movement is impossible to ignore, as major banks finally begin to understand that we will not stand idly by as they use our deposits to finance the incarceration of families.

After massive public outcry and a loss of future bank financing, Fitch recently downgraded CoreCivic’s crediting rating, citing uncertainty over the possibility that additional banks could sever ties with the sector. Sell side analysts have also stopped covering GEO Group and CoreCivic as Wall Street has backed away from private prisons, putting the companies in a very small group of big companies with no coverage from Wall Street analysts that sell research to investors. Banks who have yet to publicly commit that they will not finance the private prison industry, including PNC, Citizens Bank, Regions, First Tennessee Bank, Synovus Bank and Pinnacle Bank, must heed the will of consumers and make clear statements that they will refrain from financing this morally bankrupt industry. We will not rest until they do.

*** JPMorgan Chase, Wells Fargo, Bank of America, SunTrust, BNP Paribas and FifthThird Bank have already made firm commitments to ending financing private prisons.
*** US Bancorp said this week it has been reducing its exposure to the sector due to risk characteristics and that it plans to exit the relationships once its contractual obligations expire.
*** Barclays bank has also said it will not refinance existing contracts and currently have no plans to enter any new financing arrangements with these companies. Activists look forward to an even stronger statement from Barclays that more fully matches the commitment of leading banks that they will not finance private prisons moving forward.

The private prison industry has documented ​histories​ of human rights abuses and detains over ​70 percent of immigrants in ICE custody and is profiting from mass incarceration and the criminalization of immigration. CoreCivic and GEO Group — the country’s two largest private prison companies —​ depend on debt financing​ from banks to conduct their day-to-day business operations, finance new facilities, and acquire smaller companies.

The Families Belong Together Corporate Accountability Committee, made up of more than 100 organizations, calls on banks to immediately stop their financial support for private prisons and private immigrant detention centers.. The committee has ​signed petitions by the hundreds of thousands, delivered messages to local banks, and taken direct action outside corporate headquarters and bank branches in cities across the country.​ ​Partnering organizations include: Action NC Candide Group / Real Money Moves, Center for Popular Democracy, CMSM, CREDO, Daily Kos, Defending Rights & Dissent, Families Belong Together, Global Exchange, Hand in Hand: The Domestic Employers Network, ICCR, In the Public Interest, La Colectiva de Mujeres, LittleSis, Make the Road New York, Make the Road New Jersey, Mujeres Unidas y Activas, MoveOn, MomsRising / MamásConPoder, National Domestic Workers Alliance, Presente.org, Rainforest Action Network
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Good guys, on this issue:
US Bancorp
Barclays
JPMorgan Chase
Wells Fargo
Bank of America
SunTrust
BNP Paribas
Fifth Third Bank

Not there yet:
PNC
Citizens Bank
Regions
First Tennessee Bank
Synovus Bank
Pinnacle Bank
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https://www.denverpost.com/2016/01/22/c ... ckgrounds/

Colorado grants waivers to police applicants with criminal backgrounds
Who do they think they are, South Carolina?
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The Latest: NYPD fires officer for death of Eric Garner

Is it police "reform" when it only takes them 5 years to fire a bad cop?
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Corruption:


Cop Pulls over Judge, Judge uses is position of power to get off quickly.

Baldfaced liar:

Lancaster County President Judge denies using his position to influence traffic stop in incident caught on dashcam video

Coward:
LNP reports that the officer would not comment on the incident, despite numerous attempts to obtain a comment.
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Amazing:

Three Spokane Co. deputies take down 6-foot-10 man armed with knife

Huge, armed, resisting, Black (probably) man did not get shot and no one was injured.

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Amazing:

Three Spokane Co. deputies take down 6-foot-10 man armed with knife

Huge, armed, resisting, Black (probably) man did not get shot and no one was injured.

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Amazing and commendable, fershure. Dunno about the Black part, though. Black people aren't that easy to find in WA. Cops may have thought he was a Sasquatch.

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Amazing and commendable, fershure. Dunno about the Black part, though. Black people aren't that easy to find in WA. Cops may have thought he was a Sasquatch.
True, Spokane is only 2.3% African American, 4.2% for the state, less than I would have thought for both. I just guessed based on the name. For some reason googling "Darnai L. Vaile" doesn't turn up a mug shot or other pic, not even on the SCSD website.
https://www.spokanecounty.org/CivicAlerts.aspx?AID=2460
Maybe they need to get a taller tripod for the camera. :D
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