Help walmart strikers!

[bannination]

Blah, blah, blah.
I still don't know why your all pants are in a wad. These are entry level jobs at best, don't like it leave.

Entry level to what? Dead-end jobs is more like it.

A youngens first job, their introduction to the working world. A student who is in school and just needs cash to get by. If you plan on making wall mart a career it is pretty much a dead end. Crash more like it.
Why do so many think every job should be a career? Heck my first job was $1.85 an hour and you had to stand outside in snow and cold in the winter and it was hot in the summer. Oh no what was I to do. It was an entry level position, my entry into the work force. I learned real fast you had to move on!!!

Because unlike when you were in your prime there is very little to move on to.

[Reality]

"Because unlike when you were in your prime there is very little to move on to."

Especially when it's easier to sit on one's duff and be fed by those who found a way to move on.

[bannination]

"Because unlike when you were in your prime there is very little to move on to."

Especially when it's easier to sit on one's duff and be fed by those who found a way to move on.

Wow, that makes no sense, we're talking about people with jobs trying to earn a living. Keep up man.

[Colonel Taylor]

Blah, blah, blah.
I still don't know why your all pants are in a wad. These are entry level jobs at best, don't like it leave.

Entry level to what? Dead-end jobs is more like it.

A youngens first job, their introduction to the working world. A student who is in school and just needs cash to get by. If you plan on making wall mart a career it is pretty much a dead end. Crash more like it.
Why do so many think every job should be a career? Heck my first job was $1.85 an hour and you had to stand outside in snow and cold in the winter and it was hot in the summer. Oh no what was I to do. It was an entry level position, my entry into the work force. I learned real fast you had to move on!!!

Because unlike when you were in your prime there is very little to move on to.

You sure, I was in the beginning of my prime during the ole Jimmy Peanut administration and the beginning of the Reagan years. I bought my first house in the early 80's, remember the interest rates, involved with my first business in 1982-3, another in the 1989 after leaving the second one. But you have to be willing to work 70 hours or more per week and use your own money to take chances.

[bannination]

You sure, I was in the beginning of my prime during the ole Jimmy Peanut administration and the beginning of the Reagan years. I bought my first house in the early 80's, remember the interest rates, involved with my first business in 1982-3, another in the 1989 after leaving the second one. But you have to be willing to work 70 hours or more per week and use your own money to take chances.

Yep, pretty sure, walmart pays so little they can't afford their own benefits, where are you going to get this extra money to take a chance? They can't afford a apartment by themselves, much less a house.

The people I've known from wal-mart over the years would be happy to work 70 hours a week if they could, but they're lucky to get 30. As Vrede already mentioned they work them crazy schedules so that no one else at another job could possibly work with them.

[billy.pilgrim]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HldVI4InSr4

union made

[Colonel Taylor]

You sure, I was in the beginning of my prime during the ole Jimmy Peanut administration and the beginning of the Reagan years. I bought my first house in the early 80's, remember the interest rates, involved with my first business in 1982-3, another in the 1989 after leaving the second one. But you have to be willing to work 70 hours or more per week and use your own money to take chances.

Yep, pretty sure, walmart pays so little they can't afford their own benefits, where are you going to get this extra money to take a chance? They can't afford a apartment by themselves, much less a house.

The people I've known from wal-mart over the years would be happy to work 70 hours a week if they could, but they're lucky to get 30. As Vrede already mentioned they work them crazy schedules so that no one else at another job could possibly work with them.

Wal mart isn't the only place in the world to work ya know?

[Colonel Taylor]

Wal mart isn't the only place in the world to work ya know?

No, it isn't, but Walmart has destroyed millions of American jobs through outsourcing and the death of local retail - reason enough to object.

I rarely if ever go there. As I said earlier it's a ghetto in my opinion. Don't shop there and they will go away!

[O Really]

The Colonel is right. Why stay stuck at an "entry level" job when there are so many other opportunities for a high school grad? I'm sure anyone who isn't a totally lazy-ass taker could get a lot of jobs - just like the Colonel back when Carter was President. There's a lot of jobs in texiles. Heck, there are textile plants in every little town from here to forever. Oh wait, they're not there? OKfine, there's sewing plants...No? Well, American steel still gives a guy a good wage and opportunity. US Steel, Bethlehem Steel...no? Never heard of them, huh? Well, electronics is the new big thing. Go to work for RCA, Motorola, Collins Radio. Heck, Collins has such good jobs it's worth moving to Dallas. Oh wait...they're not there, either? Well, you don't have to work for a big corporation. There's lots of local businesses - specialty clothing stores, hardware stores, right? Oh wait...all that's at Wal-Mart now, isn't it?

[Colonel Taylor]

The Colonel is right. Why stay stuck at an "entry level" job when there are so many other opportunities for a high school grad? I'm sure anyone who isn't a totally lazy-ass taker could get a lot of jobs - just like the Colonel back when Carter was President. There's a lot of jobs in texiles. Heck, there are textile plants in every little town from here to forever. Oh wait, they're not there? OKfine, there's sewing plants...No? Well, American steel still gives a guy a good wage and opportunity. US Steel, Bethlehem Steel...no? Never heard of them, huh? Well, electronics is the new big thing. Go to work for RCA, Motorola, Collins Radio. Heck, Collins has such good jobs it's worth moving to Dallas. Oh wait...they're not there, either? Well, you don't have to work for a big corporation. There's lots of local businesses - specialty clothing stores, hardware stores, right? Oh wait...all that's at Wal-Mart now, isn't it?

So I figure you think folks should just sit back and collect guvmit money instead of making an effort ha? No surprise here. So what was the unemployment rate during the Carter/Reagan years anyway? What were the mortgage rates? Should I go on.

[billy.pilgrim]

The Colonel is right. Why stay stuck at an "entry level" job when there are so many other opportunities for a high school grad? I'm sure anyone who isn't a totally lazy-ass taker could get a lot of jobs - just like the Colonel back when Carter was President. There's a lot of jobs in texiles. Heck, there are textile plants in every little town from here to forever. Oh wait, they're not there? OKfine, there's sewing plants...No? Well, American steel still gives a guy a good wage and opportunity. US Steel, Bethlehem Steel...no? Never heard of them, huh? Well, electronics is the new big thing. Go to work for RCA, Motorola, Collins Radio. Heck, Collins has such good jobs it's worth moving to Dallas. Oh wait...they're not there, either? Well, you don't have to work for a big corporation. There's lots of local businesses - specialty clothing stores, hardware stores, right? Oh wait...all that's at Wal-Mart now, isn't it?

seems the kernel thinks everyone today has it as easy as he did in the 60s and 70s when the middle class was still booming after fdr put the banksters in their place

before reagan's war on the middle class

or else he just had a government job


whatever the case, he definitely has his head stuck up his ass

[Colonel Taylor]

The Colonel is right. Why stay stuck at an "entry level" job when there are so many other opportunities for a high school grad? I'm sure anyone who isn't a totally lazy-ass taker could get a lot of jobs - just like the Colonel back when Carter was President. There's a lot of jobs in texiles. Heck, there are textile plants in every little town from here to forever. Oh wait, they're not there? OKfine, there's sewing plants...No? Well, American steel still gives a guy a good wage and opportunity. US Steel, Bethlehem Steel...no? Never heard of them, huh? Well, electronics is the new big thing. Go to work for RCA, Motorola, Collins Radio. Heck, Collins has such good jobs it's worth moving to Dallas. Oh wait...they're not there, either? Well, you don't have to work for a big corporation. There's lots of local businesses - specialty clothing stores, hardware stores, right? Oh wait...all that's at Wal-Mart now, isn't it?

seems the kernel thinks everyone today has it as easy as he did in the 60s and 70s when the middle class was still booming after fdr put the banksters in their place

before reagan's war on the middle class

or else he just had a government job


whatever the case, he definitely has his head stuck up his ass

Well that didn't take long now did it. BP has absolutely nothing to add so the personal insults start. Typical and no surprise at all.

[Reality]

Banni and the Vred. Permanent Pointee Talkee types. Do you two ever get on, and stay on, track?

BTW Vred, I see you are exercising your Karnack powers again.

[O Really]

No Colonel, I'm not talking about sitting around and collecting gummint money. I don't know why you keep harping about that topic anyway. What I'm pointing out is what should be obvious to all. The types of jobs that you (and I) remember bringing good opportunities to a lot of people simply aren't there anymore. When I was in college at UNC, I was in a labor relations class where the term project was to take a real company (Lorrilard), divide into teams, union and management, and negotiate a realistic contract. During that course, we got to visit a lot of other companies - JP Stevens, Burlington, RJ Reynolds, Wranger, Celanese, Fiber Industries - all of them had lots of employees in lots of locations - all leaders in their industries. If you had come home from WWII and gone to work for Burlington Industries in 1945, you could have spent 40 years there, retired (with a real pension) and, if you were like a lot of people, go from working a production floor to management. On the other hand, if you managed to be one of the handful of US employees still around in 2003, you'd have been gone within the year. I worked for a steel company that had operated continuously in the same location since 1793, and had provided a good stable living for many hundreds of thousands of employees and their family over the years. By 1995, it was gone, along with most other American steel.

So sure, a person has to adapt, and if their job goes away from them, they have to go out and look for another one. But get off your welfare horse for a few minutes and compare the number and types of job opportunities for high school grads - regular working people - that were around in the 60's and 70's to those available now.

[O Really]

According to that well-known left wing company "Monster," (slightly dated, since it's in reference to 2012),

"The job opportunities being added back to the market will be different from the ones lost during the recession. “Many of the jobs being created are at the top and the bottom of the skill set,” Di Natale says. “There’s not a ton being added in the middle.”

The job outlook is great for highly skilled workers (think finance, technology or engineering), along with entry-level workers in nonoffshorable service jobs (such as some hospitality jobs and healthcare jobs), Di Natale says. The job outlook for semiskilled workers is weak. Job opportunities in the middle have disappeared as technology replaces workers like receptionists, while manufacturing jobs have been offshored to lower-cost foreign workers, she adds."

[Bungalow Bill]

To give credit where credit is due, the Gipper managed to get the UE rate up to 10.8%.
That was the "regular" UE rate. No telling what the alternative one the nutjobs like to
talk about was.

[Bungalow Bill]

I wouldn't remember that number except that I came across it a number of times when the
wingnuts were complaining about Obama's UE rate. I believe there were one or two who
thought Obama had the highest UE in the post-war (WW II) period. Not so my friends.

[Supsalemgr]

Please let us know when all the libs achieve their orgasm over posting in this thread.

[k9nanny]

Test. I am forbidden. If this goes through, I'll have to search my post for unacceptable words.

Ah ha. That must be it.

[k9nanny]

It wasn't only Walmart.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/ ... story.html

(My power keeps blinking out. Cut/paste on the iPad is awkward.) I had a link to the Washington Post, but when I hit "submit," it tells me I'm forbidden. Anyway, Disney, Sears, and others used the same manufacturer in Bangledesh.

Like Mike, I do use Walmart, and hate it. However, we save around $300 a month on prescriptions, and believe me, I've compared.

Walmart is not the only demon. I know for sure that Whitley's dropped a few hundred a month just off my in-laws when State retirement coaxed it's beneficiaries into using an on line pharmacy. Blue Cross constantly reminds my husband he could be doing the same.

And what about the Internet? We can buy doggie pil pockets for HALF of what the locals charge. Most of my clothes come from thrift shops (thanks to my MIL), but stuff like wad-and-wear travel clothes and all my shoes are ordered online. Most of our business supplies are ordered online, even from the local Staples. I despise shopping; always have, but used to have no choice. How many small businesses have been crushed because of internet sales?

Working retail stinks. I've written before how, 39 years ago, Belk's worked me 39.5 hours a week so they could call me part-time. Walmart has taken an old way of business and elevated it to monster level, but they are hardly the creator of the p/t dilemma.