"Anything I did should be praised.”

[billy.pilgrim]

https://www.stltoday.com/opinion/editor ... eaf0b.html


“It is impossible that the whistleblower is a hero and I’m not. And I will be the hero! These morons — when this is over, I will be the hero,” Giuliani told The Atlantic.

“I’m not acting as a lawyer. I’m acting as someone who has devoted most of his life to straightening out government,” he added. “Anything I did should be praised.”

Rudy is a man to be respected. Unlike our own pp, Rudy will answer even the simplest of questions, nevermind that sometimes his answers are in minor conflicts all on their own.

here's CNN’s Chris Cuomo asking rudy boy a simple question

“Did you ask the Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden?” Cuomo asked.

“No,” Giuliani said. “Actually, I didn’t.”

Cuomo asked the question again,

“So you did ask Ukraine to look into Joe Biden?” Cuomo asked.

“Of course I did!” Giuliani shouted.

“You just said you didn’t!” Cuomo said.

“No, I didn’t ask them to look into Joe Biden,” Giuliani replied."

[Leo Lyons]

Sounds like any run-of-the-mill politician to me.
Party affiliation not withstanding.

[billy.pilgrim]

Sounds like any run-of-the-mill politician to me.
Party affiliation not withstanding.

Not really leo, but then, truth ain't a big habit of yours, so chances are you do understand.

[neoplacebo]

I will conditionally agree with what Rudy said about anything he does should be praised. What I had in mind is that considering the fact that he's so full of shit, if he were to take a dump that filled the bowl up to the point at which his ass is beginning to contact the shit in the bowl, I would probably praise that even though he would likely still be something like 3/4 full of shit.

[Leo Lyons]

Sounds like any run-of-the-mill politician to me.
Party affiliation not withstanding.

Not really leo, but then, truth ain't a big habit of yours, so chances are you do understand.

I'm lying, or are you blindly denying? There's no denying that politicians on both sides of the political fence are unscrupulous, back-stabbing, thieving, and cheating self-important assholes.

[O Really]

Sounds like any run-of-the-mill politician to me.
Party affiliation not withstanding.

Not really leo, but then, truth ain't a big habit of yours, so chances are you do understand.

I'm lying, or are you blindly denying? There's no denying that politicians on both sides of the political fence are unscrupulous, back-stabbing, thieving, and cheating self-important assholes.

Let's say for the sake of discussion that you're right. Are you also saying they are all equal in their evil, or is there no gradient or degree of difference? If you think some are better than others, who do you think is among the best and worst?

[billy.pilgrim]

Sounds like any run-of-the-mill politician to me.
Party affiliation not withstanding.

Not really leo, but then, truth ain't a big habit of yours, so chances are you do understand.

I'm lying, or are you blindly denying? There's no denying that politicians on both sides of the political fence are unscrupulous, back-stabbing, thieving, and cheating self-important assholes.

Let's say for the sake of discussion that you're right. Are you also saying they are all equal in their evil, or is there no gradient or degree of difference? If you think some are better than others, who do you think is among the best and worst?

Leo's statement is idiotic.
"There's no denying that" (some/many) "politicians on both sides of the political fence are unscrupulous, back-stabbing, thieving, and cheating self-important assholes",
but it really takes an idiot (or a blind partisan trumpette) to suggest that any current or past president is even remotely similar to the lying sack of shit that is our current president.

Isn't trump up to some 10,000 lies since taking office? Yeah sure, but Bill lied about a blow job and Obama did a real poor job of describing health care.
Little bush lied us into a for profit forever war. While that is about as bad as any president ever, it still doesn't compare to the MAGAt president.

Come on leo, how many lies did President Carter tell?

Just like people in general, some lie and some don't, but it looks like trump has pushed the trump supporters into claiming the fantastical equivalency that all are equal.

This even exceeds the lie the repugs used during the lil bush admin, that they were Independents and didn't vote for bush.

It's easy enough to see that Leo is either a liar or brain dead when he claims that trump is a typical pol.

[Vrede too]

False equivalencies are for wimps that can't admit their poor choices.

... Isn't trump up to some 10,000 lies since taking office? ...

In 928 days, President Trump has made 12,019 false or misleading claims

The Fact Checker’s ongoing database of the false or misleading claims made by President Trump since assuming office.

Updated Aug. 5, 2019

There have been updates every two months or so. There should be about another 1000 added in the next few days.

[billy.pilgrim]

False equivalencies are for wimps that can't admit their poor choices.

... Isn't trump up to some 10,000 lies since taking office? ...

In 928 days, President Trump has made 12,019 false or misleading claims

The Fact Checker’s ongoing database of the false or misleading claims made by President Trump since assuming office.

Updated Aug. 5, 2019

There have been updates every two months or so. There should be about another 1000 added in the next few days.

So, in comparison to the last few Dems, we're looking at

3 or 4 to 13,000
10 or 12 to 13,000
and yesterday's birthday boy at none to 13,000

Kinda similar to the real media compared to fox

Could be a connection

[Leo Lyons]

Let's say for the sake of discussion that you're right. Are you also saying they are all equal in their evil, or is there no gradient or degree of difference? If you think some are better than others, who do you think is among the best and worst?

I said "There's no denying that politicians on both sides of the political fence are unscrupulous, back-stabbing, thieving, and cheating self-important assholes."
I didn't characterize any one particular person or offense; practically every politician has a skeleton of sorts in his/her closet.
Was that too hard for you to understand, billy.pilgrim? Your reply was idiotic.

[Leo Lyons]

Leo's statement is idiotic.
It's easy enough to see that Leo is either a liar or brain dead when he claims that trump is a typical pol.

So where did you find Thump's name in my post?
It's easy enough to see that billy.pilgrim is brain dead.

[billy.pilgrim]

Leo's statement is idiotic.
It's easy enough to see that Leo is either a liar or brain dead when he claims that trump is a typical pol.

So where did you find Thump's name in my post?
It's easy enough to see that billy.pilgrim is brain dead.

Didn't need to, you are all trump.


Back to your idiotic "all" politicians lie. There are some who don't, you just may not be familiar with any from your party.

Considering that most white collar and political crimes involve lying, this article indicates that it's far more a Republican problem.


https://rantt.com/gop-admins-had-38-tim ... -1961-2016


And that doesn't count trump's crimes

[O Really]

Let's say for the sake of discussion that you're right. Are you also saying they are all equal in their evil, or is there no gradient or degree of difference? If you think some are better than others, who do you think is among the best and worst?

I said "There's no denying that politicians on both sides of the political fence are unscrupulous, back-stabbing, thieving, and cheating self-important assholes."
I didn't characterize any one particular person or offense; practically every politician has a skeleton of sorts in his/her closet.
Was that too hard for you to understand, billy.pilgrim? Your reply was idiotic.

Are all closet skeletons equally acceptable for a person to get or keep their elected position? It's a yes or no question, but after the yes or no, feel free to give reasons for your answer.

[Vrede too]

Didn't need to, you are all trump.

Back to your idiotic "all" politicians lie. There are some who don't, you just may not be familiar with any from your party.

Considering that most white collar and political crimes involve lying, this article indicates that it's far more a Republican problem.

https://rantt.com/gop-admins-had-38-tim ... -1961-2016

And that doesn't count trump's crimes

That rantt.com article is great! Already shared elesewhere, plan on doing so often.

More to come, including possibly our 3rd impeachment and 1st conviction, but we have this so far:

Before longtime POSPOTUS confidant Roger Stone's arrest:
"The Special Counsel has now secured guilty pleas from President Trump’s personal attorney, his campaign manager, his deputy campaign manager, a foreign policy advisor to his campaign, and his National Security Advisor. He has filed 191 charges against more than thirty individuals—almost all of whom are in President Trump’s orbit, Vladimir Putin’s orbit, or both. The President can pretend that this investigation has nothing to do with him and nothing to do with Russia, but these indictments speak for themselves."
— Congressman Jerrold Nadler
https://nadler.house.gov/press-release/ ... uilty-plea

Indictments of top aides:
Nixon: 12 in 5.5 years
Bill Clinton: 3 in 8 years
Obama: 1 in 8 years (Republican/Independent Gen. David Petraeus’ misdemeanor)
President* Trump: 6 in 2.5 years
President* Trump's pace is worse than the worst POTUS, Nixon, and worse than any Dem.

[billy.pilgrim]

Let's say for the sake of discussion that you're right. Are you also saying they are all equal in their evil, or is there no gradient or degree of difference? If you think some are better than others, who do you think is among the best and worst?

I said "There's no denying that politicians on both sides of the political fence are unscrupulous, back-stabbing, thieving, and cheating self-important assholes."
I didn't characterize any one particular person or offense; practically every politician has a skeleton of sorts in his/her closet.
Was that too hard for you to understand, billy.pilgrim? Your reply was idiotic.

Sorry leo, my bad for understanding you when you said,
"Sounds like any run-of-the-mill politician to me.
Party affiliation not withstanding."

[O Really]

Ever notice how Leo has no problem with painting politicians with the same brush based on actions of some, but takes offence when the same brush is applied to cops?

[billy.pilgrim]

Ever notice how Leo has no problem with painting politicians with the same brush based on actions of some, but takes offence when the same brush is applied to cops?

And then lies about what he said

[Vrede too]

Ever notice how Leo has no problem with painting politicians with the same brush based on actions of some, but takes offence when the same brush is applied to cops?

"Ever notice how Leo has no problem with painting politicians with the same brush based on actions of some," exclusively when the topic at hand is the specific misdeeds of Repugs?

[Leo Lyons]

Didn't need to, you are all trump.


Back to your idiotic "all" politicians lie. There are some who don't, you just may not be familiar with any from your party.
I don't know how old you are or how well traveled you are, but if you believe that, then you are stupider than I gave you credit for. Have you ever worked for the government where you had a security clearance? FWIW, I don't have a party.

Considering that most white collar and political crimes involve lying, this article indicates that it's far more a Republican problem.
Yessir, them Dems rank right at the top with the rest of 'em being part of the problem.

https://rantt.com/gop-admins-had-38-tim ... -1961-2016
This only means that Dems had 62 more times at not getting caught.

And that doesn't count trump's crimes.
I give you kudos for that one.

[Leo Lyons]

Are all closet skeletons equally acceptable for a person to get or keep their elected position?
It's a yes or no question, but after the yes or no, feel free to give reasons for your answer.

Unfortunately, I cannot reply to this for reasons I shall/can not divulge.