The Food Thread

[neoplacebo]

I guess those folks that make lead crystal glass items aren't kidding. Lead is also used as ballast in US submarines but the lead is in inaccessible voids on the boat.

[Vrede too]

... #1 is a San Diego food truck where we got the house specialty chicken shawarma a couple of weeks ago. It was really good, but we had no idea we were eating at the top place in the country. Glad we went when we did - probably won't be able to get near the place for a while. https://www.yelp.com/biz/shawarma-guys-san-diego ...

Just featured on ABC News. Can't find it on the website yet, but it will probably appear soon. You're correct, "double" the customers since the ranking, "line around the corner".

[GoCubsGo]

Eat like a Trump! Pizza and burgers for everyone!

The Trump administration on Friday took another step toward dismantling Michelle Obama's school nutrition guidelines, proposing a new rule that could lead to more pizza and fries and less fruit and a smaller variety of vegetables on school menus.

Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue, who announced the rule changes on Obama’s birthday, said they were needed to give schools more flexibility and reduce waste while still providing nutritious and appetizing meals.

But child nutrition advocates saw it differently.

“What a shameless, embarrassing capitulation to lobbyists at the expense of American children and their well-being,” said Sam Kass, who served as executive director of Obama's “Let's Move" campaign to combat child obesity. ”This country — and its kids — deserve so much better. "

[Vrede too]

Eat like a Trump! Pizza and burgers for everyone!

For anyone with Photoshop skills a good response to this would be a group of obese school kids with POSPOTUS and Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue heads.

[O Really]

No grown man who calls himself "Sonny" should ever be in charge of anything important. And maybe this one should drop a hundred pounds before he starts designing kids' menus.

[Whack9]

No grown man who calls himself "Sonny" should ever be in charge of anything important. And maybe this one should drop a hundred pounds before he starts designing kids' menus.

This is an observation I've made in regards to the hate on healthy foods and other healthy behaviors by certain segments of the political spectrum.

A lot of these people are incredibly unhealthy themselves and incredibly insecure. They're in shitty health, and their lives are uneventful and unfulfilling. Rather than trying to work on improving themselves, they take out their insecurities on others.

If you don't wanna work out and dig chomping down on good tasty food, go for it. I do too. There's no hate from me. I don't think most people care. But if someone is unhappy with themselves they shouldn't try to knock others down a peg or force others to be worse off just out of spite.

Another example that's always been in vogue is mocking millennial college students. I caught a lot of flak and mockery for being in college back when I was working in a gas station in rural fucking SC around 2005. If you told some of these people you were in college you'd automatically get judged as being dumb and inept and wasting your time when you could be working at a factory or something. Once again. No hate in workimgnin a factory or trade.


Many people need to feel superior others in order to have any sense of self worth. It's sad.

They want everyone to be just as miserable as them.

[Vrede too]

This is an observation I've made in regards to the hate on healthy foods and other healthy behaviors by certain segments of the political spectrum.

A lot of these people are incredibly unhealthy themselves and incredibly insecure. They're in shitty health, and their lives are uneventful and unfulfilling. Rather than trying to work on improving themselves, they take out their insecurities on others....

Add to that the pitiful insecure bigotry. It was a strong, smart black woman pushing healthy child nutrition.

[billy.pilgrim]

Lead crystal is beautiful but not safe for storage.

It belongs in a display case.

There is crystal that doesn't contain lead. Safer although not quite as pretty.

Like some women.

Same for tiffany lamp shades, windows and anything with lead solder or came.

We used to be concerned with lead in the blue glazes on pottery from Mexico. It was a lot easier to avoid blue from Mexico than it is now avoiding everything from everywhere due to a host of undetectable heavy metals.

[O Really]

Heavy metal is pretty easy to detect. Start here...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_heavy_metal_bands

[billy.pilgrim]

Heavy metal is pretty easy to detect. Start here...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_heavy_metal_bands

Okay, I was being overly dramatic, but it is hard to identify while Christmas shopping at a toy store, trying to buy toys and school supplies, shopping online and on everything you come into contact with, etc.

[Vrede too]

Lead crystal is beautiful but not safe for storage....

Not safe for any use with food or drink, even temporary, as I describe here:
http://www.blueridgedebate.com/forum/vi ... es#p108348

[Vrede too]

Same for tiffany lamp shades, windows and anything with lead solder or came.

We used to be concerned with lead in the blue glazes on pottery from Mexico. It was a lot easier to avoid blue from Mexico than it is now avoiding everything from everywhere due to a host of undetectable heavy metals.

I THINK they're all pretty safe unless being used for food or drink. I don't think there's leaching with touch alone.

Okay, I was being overly dramatic, but it is hard to identify while Christmas shopping at a toy store, trying to buy toys and school supplies, shopping online and on everything you come into contact with, etc.

Good point, lead in toys that young children might put in their mouths is a bad thing. Yet another reason for strict testing and regulation. Parents shouldn't have to research EVERYTHING.

[Vrede too]

Heavy metal is pretty easy to detect. Start here...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_heavy_metal_bands

You don't want to end up like Whack9 .

[billy.pilgrim]

Lead crystal is beautiful but not safe for storage.

It belongs in a display case.

There is crystal that doesn't contain lead. Safer although not quite as pretty.

Like some women.

Same for tiffany lamp shades, windows and anything with lead solder or came.

We used to be concerned with lead in the blue glazes on pottery from Mexico. It was a lot easier to avoid blue from Mexico than it is now avoiding everything from everywhere due to a host of undetectable heavy metals.

Well, the danger from lead in things like dishes, glasses, and decanters is that they come into contact with food, and the lead can then be leached out from the container and poison people who consume the food or beverage.

Are you using Tiffany lamp shades as food bowls?

Tried it, but they leak.

Old sayings like crazy as a glazer, all painters are drunks, etc. should have been a clue not to use it in paint OR GASOLINE.

Most candles made before 1992 (?) have lead filaments woven into the wick. It makes for a much prettier flame and goes well with the lead fumes from the lead solder burn off from the tiffany style candle holder.

[billy.pilgrim]

So, the primary danger in Tiffany lamp shades is in the manufacture if they use lead based material to hold the glass panels in place.

Realistically, a leaded lamp shade will not release lead fumes in normal usage.

I've done my share of use of leaded solder to join electrical components. It hasn't affected my bwainn et allll.

You're probably right. I've used a lot of lead building stain glass windows. I tried to be careful but ultimately quit because of the potential for health concerns.

There is far worse exposure from gasoline, water lines and paint than the candlewick lead and tiffany lamps, but damn, do we have to vaporize lead in the living room?


Edit:
Remember when the Republicans said that taking lead out of paint would put an end to bright white paint?
They did.
It didn't.

[Vrede too]

Remember when the Republicans said _________?
They did.
It didn't.

A template for the ages.

[neoplacebo]

Lead crystal is beautiful but not safe for storage.

It belongs in a display case.

There is crystal that doesn't contain lead. Safer although not quite as pretty.

Like some women.

Same for tiffany lamp shades, windows and anything with lead solder or came.

We used to be concerned with lead in the blue glazes on pottery from Mexico. It was a lot easier to avoid blue from Mexico than it is now avoiding everything from everywhere due to a host of undetectable heavy metals.

Well, the danger from lead in things like dishes, glasses, and decanters is that they come into contact with food, and the lead can then be leached out from the container and poison people who consume the food or beverage.

Are you using Tiffany lamp shades as food bowls?

Tried it, but they leak.

Old sayings like crazy as a glazer, all painters are drunks, etc. should have been a clue not to use it in paint OR GASOLINE.

Most candles made before 1992 (?) have lead filaments woven into the wick. It makes for a much prettier flame and goes well with the lead fumes from the lead solder burn off from the tiffany style candle holder.

Gasoline used to smell GOOD and had sort of a purple color to it before they took the lead out. I remember how it smelled from back when I would mow lawns (for $1.25) and ride my bike over to the nearby gas station to get gas for my lawn mower. This was when a new push mower, made in USA, cost about $35. The gas was about 28 cents a gallon.
Back onto food; many people say (no shit) that virtually all seafood is contaminated to some extent with mercury. I don't eat a lot of seafood, so am not worried that I am consuming mercury. Hell, if I want any I can always crack open a thermometer and have at it. Unfortunate that the oceans contain enough of this stuff to have it be present in nearly all seafood. I just finished reading a book about Thomas Edison and it described how his guys used mercury (gravity) pumps to evacuate air from his glass globe light bulbs. The book related how a symptom of mercury poisoning is excessive salivation and that those guys working with the mercury developed this over a period of time. Another weird thing is that Edison, inventor of the phonograph, was damn near totally deaf; he could only hear middle frequencies, no highs or lows. To "hear" better, he would hold a stick in his teeth and place the other end of it on the phonograph cabinet, thus "hearing" with his skull.

[O Really]

We continued our leftist lives of abject misery and therapy (according to peacefulpartier) today - so badly distressed that we sought interventional treatment. Road Trip!

We cruised up into the mountains to the charming little touristy town of Julian, which is known to have at least three or more bakeries who claim to make the best apple pies there are.

To "earn" our pie, we hiked the Volcan Mountain trail that, at the top give you a view from the sea to the desert. On a day with a cloudless sky, it was spectacular despite being a bit more challenging than the "Moderate" rating AllTrails gives it.
https://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/cali ... tain-trail

Our choice of pie shop was the original Julian Pie Company, and we were lucky to get there in time for one coming right out of the oven, and with sharp cheddar on top. I'm not that much of a sweet-eater usually, but that was some good pie. It took us about an hour to get up there, and if we'd done nothing but get a piece of that pie and go home, it would have been worth the drive. https://www.julianpie.com/ We were especially lucky to get there on a non-busy day, too. On weekends lineups at all the pie shops are not infrequently an hour or more. People drive up from the city to buy whole pies for their Thanksgiving dinners and other special occasions.

Then, after a walk around the town, we had a local beer and then back down the mountain in time for a spectacular sunset. Damn, could life as a leftist get any more miserable?

https://www.julianbeercompany.com/brewery

[GoCubsGo]

Waitasecond! What kind of pie did you get?

https://www.julianpie.com/collections/pies

[O Really]

Waitasecond! What kind of pie did you get?

https://www.julianpie.com/collections/pies

Original, with cheese. Next time we may get something exotic, but I always like to at least start with whatever a "house specialty" is. But jeez, that's good pie they make. Tasty crumbly crust, just enough spices to add flavor but not cover up the apple taste.