2020 Elections

[Vrede too]

Here's some real wingnuts. If I'm elected I'll put a stop to this real fucking fast.
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/pigeon-protes ... ories.html

I think they raise the average IQ of MAGAts.

[Vrede too]

PETA is clucking about it. I didn't linger long enough to learn exactly why.

Number of people watching Dem circular firing squad show: @7 million ...

The televised debate drew a combined 19.7 million viewers on NBC and MSNBC, making it the most-watched Democratic primary debate of all time.

Opps. I heard the same thing on TV news, which is what led me to look it up.

[neoplacebo]

PETA is clucking about it. I didn't linger long enough to learn exactly why.

Number of people watching Dem circular firing squad show: @7 million ...

The televised debate drew a combined 19.7 million viewers on NBC and MSNBC, making it the most-watched Democratic primary debate of all time.

Opps. I heard the same thing on TV news, which is what led me to look it up.

PETA probably not liking it since I assume some sort of adhesive was used to attach the hats to the birds.
And if I had watched the debates, the record would have been higher by one.

[O Really]

PETA is clucking about it. I didn't linger long enough to learn exactly why.

Number of people watching Dem circular firing squad show: @7 million ...

The televised debate drew a combined 19.7 million viewers on NBC and MSNBC, making it the most-watched Democratic primary debate of all time.

Opps. I heard the same thing on TV news, which is what led me to look it up.

Yeah, my 7 mill was based on previous ummmm "debate" viewing. I guess it's a good thing 20 million got to see all the viable Dem candidates tell them how awful everyone running is.

[1 CAT FAN]

NBC aired a horrible crash Wednesday night. The entire field of participants wiped out. That Bloomberg guy may not survive.

At every turn the carnage of leftists going up in flames. What better spectacle than Daytona to view.

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PETA probably not liking it since I assume some sort of adhesive was used to attach the hats to the birds.
And if I had watched the debates, the record would have been higher by one.

I read that he used eyelash glue so that the hats came off easily, and that several birds returned without their hats. No word on whether anyone was injured by a tiny falling MAGA hat.

[Vrede too]

Yeah, my 7 mill was based on previous ummmm "debate" viewing. I guess it's a good thing 20 million got to see all the viable Dem candidates tell them how awful everyone running is.

I don't think that anyone in Nov will remember what Dems said about each other back in Feb, and I don't think that Dolt .45's torrent of lying attack ads will depend on Dem quotes.

[neoplacebo]

Even though I've not watched any of the Democratic debates, I doubt they will rise to the level of lunacy of the GOP ones in 2016. And I didn't see any of those either; just the highlights on network news or on the Sunday talk shows after the debates.

[Vrede too]

Even though I've not watched any of the Democratic debates, I doubt they will rise to the level of lunacy of the GOP ones in 2016. And I didn't see any of those either; just the highlights on network news or on the Sunday talk shows after the debates.

Same here. I just flipped to the debate during commercials.

Bloomberg says 3 women can be released from NDAs

No telling how this will shake out, but for now - point Liz!

[O Really]

The real purpose of a NDA isn't to keep somebody from "telling her story" - it's to prevent a company from becoming a big and ready target for anybody wanting a settlement "like X, Y, or Z got" whether or not their facts and circumstances are the same. But Trump was/is making people sign "NDA's" (that are really confidentiality agreements) just for working for him and that have nothing to do necessarily with specific complaints. That's different from a non-disclosure agreement that protects the terms of a settlement.

[Vrede too]

If it's true that the Russians are supporting Bernie, they are idiots. People care about lots of things besides right-left. For example, there is nothing traditionally con about POSPOTUS. Other things that matter to voters:

Honesty
Principle
Anti-establishment
Enthusiasm
Long term commitment
Integrity

Bernie! scores well on all of these measures, but I have no idea who the strongest opponent to Dolt .45 is. The Russians can't know, either. All we do know is that Bernie! does well vs 45SHOLE in the current polls.

[neoplacebo]

If it's true that the Russians are supporting Bernie, they are idiots. People care about lots of things besides right-left. For example, there is nothing traditionally con about POSPOTUS. Other things that matter to voters:

Honesty
Principle
Anti-establishment
Enthusiasm
Long term commitment
Integrity

Bernie! scores well on all of these measures, but I have no idea who the strongest opponent to Dolt .45 is. The Russians can't know, either. All we do know is that Bernie! does well vs 45SHOLE in the current polls.

The Russians don't necessarily "support" any candidate other than trump. Their main objective,other than getting an easily manipulated candidate in office, is to stoke division and chaos and doubt within the general population and they have succeeded beyond their wildest dreams. They're doing the same thing in Europe; playing on fear of Muslim immigration and the notion of Christians being marginalized or victimized. Here in the US they also exploit the gun nuts (the Butina woman who was jailed and then deported was a big NRA actor) but the gun nuts are too stupid to realize that Russian advocacy of gun rights is a false flag; it's not easy to buy guns in Russia and they ALL have to be registered with the government. Another example of how easily the gullible and stupid can be manipulated and not realize it.

[Vrede too]

Bernie!
Stronger than expected among Blacks.
Trounced everyone among Latinos.
Even won or nearly won moderate/con Dems, I think.

Big loser other than Dem pols - the Culinary Union. They'll have fences to mend, especially if it's POTUS Bernie!

We'll see what happens in SC on 2/29, but I think that unless all but one of the moderates fall on their swords before Super Tuesday on 3/3, Bernie! will be the delegate winner, for better or worse and barring dirty tricks at the Convention if he doesn't get enough delegates to win outright.

[Whack9]

If it's true that the Russians are supporting Bernie, they are idiots. People care about lots of things besides right-left. For example, there is nothing traditionally con about POSPOTUS. Other things that matter to voters:

Honesty
Principle
Anti-establishment
Enthusiasm
Long term commitment
Integrity

Bernie! scores well on all of these measures, but I have no idea who the strongest opponent to Dolt .45 is. The Russians can't know, either. All we do know is that Bernie! does well vs 45SHOLE in the current polls.

The Russians don't necessarily "support" any candidate other than trump. Their main objective,other than getting an easily manipulated candidate in office, is to stoke division and chaos and doubt within the general population and they have succeeded beyond their wildest dreams. They're doing the same thing in Europe; playing on fear of Muslim immigration and the notion of Christians being marginalized or victimized. Here in the US they also exploit the gun nuts (the Butina woman who was jailed and then deported was a big NRA actor) but the gun nuts are too stupid to realize that Russian advocacy of gun rights is a false flag; it's not easy to buy guns in Russia and they ALL have to be registered with the government. Another example of how easily the gullible and stupid can be manipulated and not realize it.

Don T. is going off the rails on his Twitter with the "Russia is trying to get Bernie elected" story. Makes you wonder what's in store come the election.

[neoplacebo]

If it's true that the Russians are supporting Bernie, they are idiots. People care about lots of things besides right-left. For example, there is nothing traditionally con about POSPOTUS. Other things that matter to voters:

Honesty
Principle
Anti-establishment
Enthusiasm
Long term commitment
Integrity

Bernie! scores well on all of these measures, but I have no idea who the strongest opponent to Dolt .45 is. The Russians can't know, either. All we do know is that Bernie! does well vs 45SHOLE in the current polls.

The Russians don't necessarily "support" any candidate other than trump. Their main objective,other than getting an easily manipulated candidate in office, is to stoke division and chaos and doubt within the general population and they have succeeded beyond their wildest dreams. They're doing the same thing in Europe; playing on fear of Muslim immigration and the notion of Christians being marginalized or victimized. Here in the US they also exploit the gun nuts (the Butina woman who was jailed and then deported was a big NRA actor) but the gun nuts are too stupid to realize that Russian advocacy of gun rights is a false flag; it's not easy to buy guns in Russia and they ALL have to be registered with the government. Another example of how easily the gullible and stupid can be manipulated and not realize it.

Don T. is going off the rails on his Twitter with the "Russia is trying to get Bernie elected" story. Makes you wonder what's in store come the election.

The Russians think that Bernie is too radical to win the general election so they are putting their efforts in his direction. They don't think Pete has a chance or they would be directing their efforts in his direction (Putin is rabidly anti gay). I tend to think that Russia is correct to focus on Bernie; I don't think he can win the general election either, especially when you consider the amount of misinformation and money that will be aimed against him starting this summer from Russia as well as their puppet trump and his GOP enablers.....there will be a torrential flood of "socialist" denigration headed his way. trump cultists will vote for trump no matter what but the GOP enablers and Russia will pound on the socialist thing loudly and constantly enough to probably influence more than a few non cultist non ignorant voters. Watch and see.

[Whack9]

If it's true that the Russians are supporting Bernie, they are idiots. People care about lots of things besides right-left. For example, there is nothing traditionally con about POSPOTUS. Other things that matter to voters:

Honesty
Principle
Anti-establishment
Enthusiasm
Long term commitment
Integrity

Bernie! scores well on all of these measures, but I have no idea who the strongest opponent to Dolt .45 is. The Russians can't know, either. All we do know is that Bernie! does well vs 45SHOLE in the current polls.

The Russians don't necessarily "support" any candidate other than trump. Their main objective,other than getting an easily manipulated candidate in office, is to stoke division and chaos and doubt within the general population and they have succeeded beyond their wildest dreams. They're doing the same thing in Europe; playing on fear of Muslim immigration and the notion of Christians being marginalized or victimized. Here in the US they also exploit the gun nuts (the Butina woman who was jailed and then deported was a big NRA actor) but the gun nuts are too stupid to realize that Russian advocacy of gun rights is a false flag; it's not easy to buy guns in Russia and they ALL have to be registered with the government. Another example of how easily the gullible and stupid can be manipulated and not realize it.

Don T. is going off the rails on his Twitter with the "Russia is trying to get Bernie elected" story. Makes you wonder what's in store come the election.

The Russians think that Bernie is too radical to win the general election so they are putting their efforts in his direction. They don't think Pete has a chance or they would be directing their efforts in his direction (Putin is rabidly anti gay). I tend to think that Russia is correct to focus on Bernie; I don't think he can win the general election either, especially when you consider the amount of misinformation and money that will be aimed against him starting this summer from Russia as well as their puppet trump and his GOP enablers.....there will be a torrential flood of "socialist" denigration headed his way. trump cultists will vote for trump no matter what but the GOP enablers and Russia will pound on the socialist thing loudly and constantly enough to probably influence more than a few non cultist non ignorant voters. Watch and see.

Yeah this is exactly what's happening.

Although, given how insane politics have become in the US, I think he's got a decent shot. Remember 2016? Everyone thought a Trump presidency was ridiculously far fetched. I scoffed at the prospect myself, thinking the republicans shot themselves in the foot choosing Trump in the primaries.

I think things are different now, and I think Sanders has a real shot at winning.

[neoplacebo]

I will certainly vote for Bernie if he's the nominee. But I'm just not convinced that he can overcome what will certainly be the bogeyman image the GOP will put on him with the "socialist" label. I just think a lot of people who don't even understand what socialism is will not accept it. After all, people have always been afraid of things they don't understand. I am hoping Warren is the nominee but will sit back and wait to see.

[O Really]

I will certainly vote for Bernie if he's the nominee. But I'm just not convinced that he can overcome what will certainly be the bogeyman image the GOP will put on him with the "socialist" label. I just think a lot of people who don't even understand what socialism is will not accept it. After all, people have always been afraid of things they don't understand. I am hoping Warren is the nominee but will sit back and wait to see.

I'd vote for a three-legged chipmunk if s/he were the nominee. I agree with you on Bernie's baggage, but he does have the ability to fire up a crowd and draw enthusiastic followers, unlike most of the rest of the Dems. That seems to help.

[Vrede too]

Trumpettes do and will call any Dem "SOCIALIST!" I make no predictions, but I think it's possible that Bernie! would have more success arguing why that's okay than the other Dems would have by whining, "Waaa, no I'm not." The truth is that we have and will always have a mixed economy and we're really discussing rather small swings along that spectrum.

Joe has really gone down the rabbit hole in his desperation to win back his massively eroded Black support, shame.

Joe Biden says he was arrested in South Africa on a visit to see Nelson Mandela. He has never mentioned the arrest before.

... Former civil rights activist and Georgia congressman Andrew Young, who was a US ambassador to the United Nations from 1977 to 1979 told The New York Times that he traveled to South Africa with Biden and did not recall an arrest.

"No, I was never arrested and I don't think he was, either," the 87-year-old said. "Now, people were being arrested in Washington. I don't think there was ever a situation where congressmen were arrested in South Africa." ...

Bloomberg and Biden Both Lied During Debate About Who Ended Stop-and-Frisk, Says Judge Who Ruled Against Practice

These are lies that should backfire on Joe among Blacks, along with everyone else.

[Vrede too]

Yeah this is exactly what's happening.

Although, given how insane politics have become in the US, I think he's got a decent shot. Remember 2016? Everyone thought a Trump presidency was ridiculously far fetched. I scoffed at the prospect myself, thinking the republicans shot themselves in the foot choosing Trump in the primaries.

I think things are different now, and I think Sanders has a real shot at winning.

I will certainly vote for Bernie if he's the nominee. But I'm just not convinced that he can overcome what will certainly be the bogeyman image the GOP will put on him with the "socialist" label. I just think a lot of people who don't even understand what socialism is will not accept it. After all, people have always been afraid of things they don't understand. I am hoping Warren is the nominee but will sit back and wait to see.

I'd vote for a three-legged chipmunk if s/he were the nominee. I agree with you on Bernie's baggage, but he does have the ability to fire up a crowd and draw enthusiastic followers, unlike most of the rest of the Dems. That seems to help.

CNN analyst: Republicans 'may regret' hoping Sanders wins nomination

... There's also the notion out there that Trump and his supporters believe Sanders give them the best shot at staying in the White House because the senator's more extreme ideological leanings will turn swing voters back to the GOP. But CNN political commentator Mark McKinnon, who worked for former President George W. Bush, believes Republicans may be too sure of themselves, especially because Sanders is able to rile up passion in his supporters in a fashion similar to Trump himself.

State of the Union
@CNNSotu

"Republicans may regret what they ask for," CNN political commentator Mark McKinnon says. "... Sanders has got a narrative and his narrative is very much like Trump's ironically ... he just has a different prescription and a different cause"

(1 minute video)

I think his perspective is as valid as anyone's in these crazy times. The uncertainty comforts me in voting for my ideology rather than trying to predict voter preferences 9 months from now. I MAY yet vote for Liz! to honor her effort. If not, Bernie!