The Food Thread

[Vrede too]

That store is not named "Food4Less".

It's named "FoodsCo".

Eight letters are different.

https://www.foodsco.net/

:!: How many "letters are different" between 'carnitas' and 'pork'?

No good deed . . .

Both websites are the same, as should have been OBVIOUS to you.
They're both Kroger outlets, as is easily found on the website.
Once again, when something appears confusing, you're too stupid and slow to look things up before making an ass of yourself:

Food 4 Less is a national grocery store grocery chain, currently owned by Kroger. It is a no-frills grocery store where the customers bag their own groceries at the checkout. Kroger operates Food 4 Less stores in California, Illinois, Indiana, and Ohio. In northern and central California, where Kroger does not have the rights to the Food 4 Less name, it operates as Foods Co....

I won't hold my breath awaiting an apology. We've all learned that your ego is too delicate for that and your integrity is nonexistent.

Anyhow, Food 4 Less/Foods Co doesn’t look like it carries them. Whenever the craving returns you have Trader Joe's nearby and DON MIGUEL® Carnitas Burritos to look into. You're welcome. I sure hope they don’t taste like crow.

[Vrede too]

We enjoy eating salmon - along with most other kinds of fish. My favorite and usual way to cook it is to grill it, seasoned with olive oil, black pepper, and Paul Prudhomme's "Salmon Seasoning." It's really good, but I do tend to get in a rut with something I like a lot. If anybody has favourite ways to prepare salmon (or tuna, or halibut, or whatever) I'd like to hear it.

I've sometimes been getting salmon fish bellies for cheap at the Co-op. I then make a variation of Tom kha kai, which is originally a chicken dish but different seafoods work great.

I simmer the fish until it readily separates from the remaining bones and fins.
The soup can be easily made from scratch or one can start with canned coconut soup.
Veggies can be added according to one's tastes along with the chopped fish, other seafood or chicken. Wiki says that pork or tofu also work, but I've never tried them.
I'll make it a curry, spicy with red pepper or chilis, or not depending on my whims at the time.
That's it, but I'm more likely to make rice with the fish water and serve the soup over it.

[O Really]

Thanks, guys -

BTW, the reason I mentioned Food 4 Less is that although it is a Kroger subsidiary and varies from place to place, here it is heavily Hispanic in its operation and stocking of products. We shop there occasionally for its atypical offering of fruits and veggies as well as Mexican items that aren't available most other chain stores. But that group of stores has been assembled from several other former companies and not all may be the same as the ones here.

[Vrede too]

Thanks, guys -

BTW, the reason I mentioned Food 4 Less is that although it is a Kroger subsidiary and varies from place to place, here it is heavily Hispanic in its operation and stocking of products. We shop there occasionally for its atypical offering of fruits and veggies as well as Mexican items that aren't available most other chain stores. But that group of stores has been assembled from several other former companies and not all may be the same as the ones here.

Is it a Yahtzee if Food 4 Less/Foods Co Oakland stocks DON MIGUEL® Carnitas Burritos?

[Vrede too]

... I've seen Kroger store brands a the local FoodsCo, so I knew there had to be some connection, but the ads and signage, as far as I recall, don't mention Food4Less....

See above. You screwed up royally, again.

[Vrede too]

:!: How many "letters are different" between 'carnitas' and 'pork'?

No good deed . . .

... I won't hold my breath awaiting an apology. We've all learned that your ego is too delicate for that and your integrity is nonexistent....

Asshole says what?

Exactly as predicted. Thank you .

[Vrede too]

Protect Science-Based School Lunch Standards

Secretary of Agriculture Sonny Perdue is putting children's health at risk by slashing nutrition standards for school breakfasts and lunches. The proposed changes would:

• Allow schools to serve french fries as "fruit" and pasta as a "vegetable";
• Halve the amount of fruit required in some school breakfasts; and
• Allow schools to serve more processed meat at breakfast (something UCS research has shown no one needs more of).

... tell Secretary Perdue's Department of Agriculture that kids need nutritious food—not junk food—to stay healthy and be successful at school.

[O Really]

Protect Science-Based School Lunch Standards

Secretary of Agriculture Sonny Perdue is putting children's health at risk by slashing nutrition standards for school breakfasts and lunches. The proposed changes would:

• Allow schools to serve french fries as "fruit" and pasta as a "vegetable";
• Halve the amount of fruit required in some school breakfasts; and
• Allow schools to serve more processed meat at breakfast (something UCS research has shown no one needs more of).

... tell Secretary Perdue's Department of Agriculture that kids need nutritious food—not junk food—to stay healthy and be successful at school.

I don't like Perdue, I don't like reducing food/nutrition standards in school. But look, Reagan classified ketchup as a vegetable. As far as I know, nobody died. I'd guess most school districts would offer reasonably decent food even if there were no standards. Sure, some individual schools have done shitty things like shaming or not feeding kids whose parents have outstanding meal balances, and probably some of them serve frozen pizza and fake ice cream. But overall, I don't think as long as they get fed, no kid's health is going down resulting primarily from school food. At least not until Perdue gets replaced with a new administration.

[Vrede too]

I don't like Perdue, I don't like reducing food/nutrition standards in school. But look, Reagan classified ketchup as a vegetable. As far as I know, nobody died. I'd guess most school districts would offer reasonably decent food even if there were no standards. Sure, some individual schools have done shitty things like shaming or not feeding kids whose parents have outstanding meal balances, and probably some of them serve frozen pizza and fake ice cream. But overall, I don't think as long as they get fed, no kid's health is going down resulting primarily from school food. At least not until Perdue gets replaced with a new administration.

I'm not knowledgeable enough on the subject to affix blame, but we know that we are in an epidemic of childhood obesity and Type II diabetes, and we know that eating habits learned as a child persist into adulthood. So, it's pretty safe to say that people are dying, however much we can attribute to federal guidelines and funding.

[O Really]

I'm not knowledgeable enough on the subject to affix blame, but we know that we are in an epidemic of childhood obesity and Type II diabetes, and we know that eating habits learned as a child persist into adulthood. So, it's pretty safe to say that people are dying, however much we can attribute to federal guidelines and funding.

And I'm not particularly defending school cafeteria food. But look at the shopping carts of people at your standard grocery, particularly among lower economic groups, and you'll find most of the cause of childhood bad eating habits and obesity. Middle school lunch menu for Oceanside school district...
http://ousd-ca.schoolloop.com/file/1535 ... 547888.pdf

Middle/High schools breakfast...http://ousd-ca.schoolloop.com/file/1535 ... 720824.pdf

[Vrede too]

And I'm not particularly defending school cafeteria food. But look at the shopping carts of people at your standard grocery, particularly among lower economic groups, and you'll find most of the cause of childhood bad eating habits and obesity. Middle school lunch menu for Oceanside school district...
http://ousd-ca.schoolloop.com/file/1535 ... 547888.pdf

Middle/High schools breakfast...http://ousd-ca.schoolloop.com/file/1535 ... 720824.pdf

It goes both ways.
My Montessori elem school nephew influenced the entire family in a better direction, without being obnoxious about it.
My niece is now vegetarian, but I'm not sure if she's influenced the others.

[neoplacebo]

I have no doubt that substandard or poor diet certainly contributes to general bad health, but at the same time, I think the mostly sedentary lifestyle of a lot of kids is just as important a factor. When these little fat bodies do nothing but sit or lie around playing video games or endlessly fiddling with social media devices and accounts, they will only increase in fat and in number.

[Vrede too]

I have no doubt that substandard or poor diet certainly contributes to general bad health, but at the same time, I think the mostly sedentary lifestyle of a lot of kids is just as important a factor. When these little fat bodies do nothing but sit or lie around playing video games or endlessly fiddling with social media devices and accounts, they will only increase in fat and in number.

Home life is difficult for us to affect, though. It’s a longterm educational project. However, in our test-centric, budget cutting world schools have also de-emphasized PE and reduced or eliminated extra curricular activities and recess.

[neoplacebo]

I have no doubt that substandard or poor diet certainly contributes to general bad health, but at the same time, I think the mostly sedentary lifestyle of a lot of kids is just as important a factor. When these little fat bodies do nothing but sit or lie around playing video games or endlessly fiddling with social media devices and accounts, they will only increase in fat and in number.

Home life is difficult for us to affect, though. It’s a longterm educational project. However, in our test-centric, budget cutting world schools have also de-emphasized PE and reduced or eliminated extra curricular activities and recess.

While it's certainly true that local school boards have no control over what students do when not at school, I submit that those same authorities do not have as much control as they think they do over students at school. Whatever diet system or whatever food choices students are offered, it remains a fact that students will not eat what they don't like. If I'm not mistaken, this is one of the exact rationale given for the GOP rejection of the Michelle Obama effort to change public school menus; that the kids "don't like it." But we all know the real reason was to refute anything having an Obama tinge to it, and this school menu thing also has a favorite GOP whipping boy....."government overreach." When I was in elementary school, I recall bringing my lunch to school as often as I ate the school food. Weekly menus were published and that was what I based my choice of whether to take my lunch or not. I just think a more serious condition for US kids is their lack of any physical activity.....up until I was about eleven or twelve years old, I and my friends would ride our bikes everywhere - even if we had no definite destination. The only times we were what could be called "inactive" was when we were sick or putting together a model car kit or playing with Army men. I don't remember a lot of fat kids at school; probably less than half a dozen in an entire elementary grade. But this was in suburban schools that in all cases were close enough to walk to or ride my bike to get to. I wish I could go back in time and warn the teachers and other kids about the trump cult.

[billy.pilgrim]

It's all about prepared food and air conditioning. It has to be.


After walking or biking home from school we grabbed a piece of fruit, got out of the house and ran and played until forced to come on for a made from scratch dinner

because it was too hot to sit inside and watch tv and eat chips and twinkies.

But no one wants to admit that it's the a/c.


Edit

Our school food was also made from scratch. Today's school cafeterias mostly assemble food made elsewhere.


In Santa Rosa county where peanuts are the #1 crop, our school board hires a factory in Chicago to trim the crust off of bread, apply peanut butter from who knows where and stuff it in a plastic bag for shipment to navarre.

Meanwhile we spend huge tax money looking for ways to bring jobs from some other community (that depended on the jobs) to santa rosa county.

I've never heard anyone ask what businesses we could create using our own supply and demand.

[Whack9]

[neoplacebo]

I give it a solid 3. Could have maybe been a 6 if the presentation had been better.

[Vrede too]

I give it a solid 3. Could have maybe been a 6 if the presentation had been better.

Quality roadkill possum pizza doesn't have all of the filling "inside".

[billy.pilgrim]

I give it a solid 3. Could have maybe been a 6 if the presentation had been better.

Quality roadkill possum pizza doesn't have all of the filling "inside".

Correct

At best it's a calzone or stromboli, or as I called my first stromboli - pizza in a shoe

[Vrede too]

I give it a solid 3. Could have maybe been a 6 if the presentation had been better.

Quality roadkill possum pizza doesn't have all of the filling "inside".

Correct

At best it's a calzone or stromboli, or as I called my first stromboli - pizza in a shoe

Good point, but I was thinking more about roadkill needing its "filling" spilling out than whether it's pizza. Between the two of us, maybe neoplacebo's "solid 3" is too generous. Otoh, I give it a 5.5 in degree of difficulty given the "very intoxicated".