Religion in America

[Limier than most]

Your politics offten makes the papers here in UK, especially since that refreshingly different chap, Mr. Trump, got the top job.

One detail l really struggle with is religion.

I keep seeing statistics telling me that huge numbers of Americans are actively and genuinely religious, and it is an important political factor.

UK is basically a post-religious society, with numbers of genuinely devout people falling over the centuries since our Civil War (when the English Taliban won, offshoots of whom left on the Mayflower).

Religion is utterly irrelevant in our politics.

Is it really a big deal there?

[Vrede too]

Your politics offten makes the papers here in UK, especially since that refreshingly different chap, Mr. Trump, got the top job.

One detail l really struggle with is religion.

I keep seeing statistics telling me that huge numbers of Americans are actively and genuinely religious, and it is an important political factor.

Its importance as measured by numbers of religious Americans is dropping.

UK is basically a post-religious society, with numbers of genuinely devout people falling over the centuries since our Civil War (when the English Taliban won, offshoots of whom left on the Mayflower).

Religion is utterly irrelevant in our politics.

Is it really a big deal there?

Massive. Evangelicals are a major element of IMPOSPOTUS' (impeached peace of shit president of the United States) base, and they are so enamored with him that any consideration of his obvious lifelong immorality is ignored.

[billy.pilgrim]

Your politics offten makes the papers here in UK, especially since that refreshingly different chap, Mr. Trump, got the top job.

One detail l really struggle with is religion.

I keep seeing statistics telling me that huge numbers of Americans are actively and genuinely religious, and it is an important political factor.

UK is basically a post-religious society, with numbers of genuinely devout people falling over the centuries since our Civil War (when the English Taliban won, offshoots of whom left on the Mayflower).

Religion is utterly irrelevant in our politics.

Is it really a big deal there?

Depends. The only really religious president over the last 50 years was Jimmy Carter. He lived it every minute of every day. At 95 he still teaches Sunday school in his home town, still lives in the small brick house he has lived in for all of his adult life and he has devoted his life to helping others.

But he was a Democrat and the right hated him with a passion.

https://www.cartercenter.org/


Religion seems important to them, but politics comes first and fuck the Beatitudes, we're here for the Prosperity.

[bannination]

Your politics offten makes the papers here in UK, especially since that refreshingly different chap, Mr. Trump, got the top job.

One detail l really struggle with is religion.

I keep seeing statistics telling me that huge numbers of Americans are actively and genuinely religious, and it is an important political factor.

UK is basically a post-religious society, with numbers of genuinely devout people falling over the centuries since our Civil War (when the English Taliban won, offshoots of whom left on the Mayflower).

Religion is utterly irrelevant in our politics.

Is it really a big deal there?

Politicians like to use it when it suits their purpose, usually either abortion or gays. Post Trump it's pretty obvious that voters don't actually care about the religion of the man itself, just that his policies support their religious bias.

I guess it's still a big deal because it can affect voting in a large way. People on the whole are becoming less religious, we're just further behind than most of the developing world.

[neoplacebo]

Your politics offten makes the papers here in UK, especially since that refreshingly different chap, Mr. Trump, got the top job.

One detail l really struggle with is religion.

I keep seeing statistics telling me that huge numbers of Americans are actively and genuinely religious, and it is an important political factor.

UK is basically a post-religious society, with numbers of genuinely devout people falling over the centuries since our Civil War (when the English Taliban won, offshoots of whom left on the Mayflower).

Religion is utterly irrelevant in our politics.

Is it really a big deal there?

A good part of these "religious" people here are actually just hypocrites and bigots who use their professed religious faith to impose their concept of society or morality on the rest of the population. Politicians here pay lip service to religion because it's easy for them and has no real down side for them. In the past two decades or so the "religious" crowd of voters has been working overtime to convince all the rest of us that we've lost some former imaginary noble grandeur and somehow it's due to a lack of religion. Fortunately, these fools don't affect me and I find theme easy to ignore and even disparage. But I sort of thought that Northern Ireland is still pretty religious......isn't it?

[Limier than most]

Your politics offten makes the papers here in UK, especially since that refreshingly different chap, Mr. Trump, got the top job.

One detail l really struggle with is religion.

I keep seeing statistics telling me that huge numbers of Americans are actively and genuinely religious, and it is an important political factor.

UK is basically a post-religious society, with numbers of genuinely devout people falling over the centuries since our Civil War (when the English Taliban won, offshoots of whom left on the Mayflower).

Religion is utterly irrelevant in our politics.

Is it really a big deal there?

A good part of these "religious" people here are actually just hypocrites and bigots who use their professed religious faith to impose their concept of society or morality on the rest of the population. Politicians here pay lip service to religion because it's easy for them and has no real down side for them. In the past two decades or so the "religious" crowd of voters has been working overtime to convince all the rest of us that we've lost some former imaginary noble grandeur and somehow it's due to a lack of religion. Fortunately, these fools don't affect me and I find theme easy to ignore and even disparage. But I sort of thought that Northern Ireland is still pretty religious......isn't it?

Thanks.

NI isn't really a religious area,but identity really matters there.


Old joke:

An atheist is driving in Belfast and he gets stopped at an paramilitary road block. A paramilitary walks up to the window and asks him "Catholic or Protestant?" The atheist looks at him and says "well, I'm an atheist". The paramilitary nods: "Ah okay, but are you a Catholic or a Protestant atheist?’’

Still funny because it's still true.

[billy.pilgrim]

Your politics offten makes the papers here in UK, especially since that refreshingly different chap, Mr. Trump, got the top job.

One detail l really struggle with is religion.

I keep seeing statistics telling me that huge numbers of Americans are actively and genuinely religious, and it is an important political factor.

UK is basically a post-religious society, with numbers of genuinely devout people falling over the centuries since our Civil War (when the English Taliban won, offshoots of whom left on the Mayflower).

Religion is utterly irrelevant in our politics.

Is it really a big deal there?

A good part of these "religious" people here are actually just hypocrites and bigots who use their professed religious faith to impose their concept of society or morality on the rest of the population. Politicians here pay lip service to religion because it's easy for them and has no real down side for them. In the past two decades or so the "religious" crowd of voters has been working overtime to convince all the rest of us that we've lost some former imaginary noble grandeur and somehow it's due to a lack of religion. Fortunately, these fools don't affect me and I find theme easy to ignore and even disparage. But I sort of thought that Northern Ireland is still pretty religious......isn't it?

Thanks.

NI isn't really a religious area,but identity really matters there.


Old joke:

An atheist is driving in Belfast and he gets stopped at an paramilitary road block. A paramilitary walks up to the window and asks him "Catholic or Protestant?" The atheist looks at him and says "well, I'm an atheist". The paramilitary nods: "Ah okay, but are you a Catholic or a Protestant atheist?’’

Still funny because it's still true.

We have the same joke but omit the Catholic choice.

[neoplacebo]

Your politics offten makes the papers here in UK, especially since that refreshingly different chap, Mr. Trump, got the top job.

One detail l really struggle with is religion.

I keep seeing statistics telling me that huge numbers of Americans are actively and genuinely religious, and it is an important political factor.

UK is basically a post-religious society, with numbers of genuinely devout people falling over the centuries since our Civil War (when the English Taliban won, offshoots of whom left on the Mayflower).

Religion is utterly irrelevant in our politics.

Is it really a big deal there?

A good part of these "religious" people here are actually just hypocrites and bigots who use their professed religious faith to impose their concept of society or morality on the rest of the population. Politicians here pay lip service to religion because it's easy for them and has no real down side for them. In the past two decades or so the "religious" crowd of voters has been working overtime to convince all the rest of us that we've lost some former imaginary noble grandeur and somehow it's due to a lack of religion. Fortunately, these fools don't affect me and I find theme easy to ignore and even disparage. But I sort of thought that Northern Ireland is still pretty religious......isn't it?

Thanks.

NI isn't really a religious area,but identity really matters there.


Old joke:

An atheist is driving in Belfast and he gets stopped at an paramilitary road block. A paramilitary walks up to the window and asks him "Catholic or Protestant?" The atheist looks at him and says "well, I'm an atheist". The paramilitary nods: "Ah okay, but are you a Catholic or a Protestant atheist?’’

Still funny because it's still true.

I suppose I am a Protestant atheist since that was the stripe of religion I was exposed to as a child. But I have no doubts that I could have just as easily been a Catholic atheist had I been exposed to that particular stripe. I just didn't have the opportunity to reject the Catholic version even though I am confident I would have done so just as easily as I dismissed the other brand. I think of if like peanut butter, which I hate and will not eat. You bring me half a dozen different brands of it; I will reject them all.

[1 CAT FAN]

Fortunately, these fools don't affect me and I find theme easy to ignore and even disparage.

Your sister? Your granddaughter Patience, her family?

[Vrede too]

...Old joke:

An atheist is driving in Belfast and he gets stopped at an paramilitary road block. A paramilitary walks up to the window and asks him "Catholic or Protestant?" The atheist looks at him and says "well, I'm an atheist". The paramilitary nods: "Ah okay, but are you a Catholic or a Protestant atheist?’’

Still funny because it's still true.

We have the same joke but omit the Catholic choice.

I suppose I am a Protestant atheist since that was the stripe of religion I was exposed to as a child. But I have no doubts that I could have just as easily been a Catholic atheist had I been exposed to that particular stripe. I just didn't have the opportunity to reject the Catholic version even though I am confident I would have done so just as easily as I dismissed the other brand. I think of if like peanut butter, which I hate and will not eat. You bring me half a dozen different brands of it; I will reject them all.

- all 3 of you.

I was loosely raised a Protestant atheist, am Jewish atheist through my father's side of the family, eventually gravitated to vague pagan atheism and now, thanks to banni's infrastructure and O Really's wisdom, am my own Superstar Cultmaster atheist.

I have never been asked about this at a paramilitary roadblock, FSM forbid, but suspect that all sides would immediately shoot me.

[neoplacebo]

Fortunately, these fools don't affect me and I find theme easy to ignore and even disparage.

Your sister? Your granddaughter Patience, her family?

Your point? I don't advertise my beliefs nor try to foist them onto anyone else. Your point? Do you have one?

[1 CAT FAN]

Fortunately, these fools don't affect me and I find theme easy to ignore and even disparage.

Your sister? Your granddaughter Patience, her family?

Your point? I don't advertise my beliefs nor try to foist them onto anyone else. Your point? Do you have one?

Your sister’s Christian beliefs, granddaughter Patience, her family. Do you think of them as fools, ignore them, think of them as being of little worth?

[Vrede too]

Your point? I don't advertise my beliefs nor try to foist them onto anyone else. Your point? Do you have one?

Seriously, granddaughter guilt tripping, albeit utterly failed? You are a vile human by any standard, 1 FAT CAN.

[O Really]

...Your point? Do you have one?

He has one, but if he wears a hat it doesn't show very much.

[Vrede too]

...Your point? Do you have one?

He has one, but if he wears a hat it doesn't show very much.

[neoplacebo]

Fortunately, these fools don't affect me and I find theme easy to ignore and even disparage.

Your sister? Your granddaughter Patience, her family?

Your point? I don't advertise my beliefs nor try to foist them onto anyone else. Your point? Do you have one?

Your sister’s Christian beliefs, granddaughter Patience, her family. Do you think of them as fools, ignore them, think of them as being of little worth?

No, I don't think of them as fools nor do I ignore them or consider them having "little worth." Why the hell would I? Was that your point? An attempt to make me feel as if I disrespect them just because of their religious beliefs? Or that somehow I am guilty of some infraction against them because they may believe things I don't believe? The fact is you don't have a point; you, and your kind, go to great lengths to assign guilt to those who don't agree with your own version of the world. My sister got me a subscription to "Tabletalk" which is some religious publication. I've gotten three issues of it so far and have read them.....they're just a 5 x 7 little booklet with titles on the front like "The Parables of Jesus" and "Fear" and "Misunderstood Doctrines" (my favorite). I consider this publication to be total bullshit but out of respect for my sister I do read them. If, at some point in the future, you have a point to make let me know. I am curious to know what it might be.

[O Really]

...Your point? Do you have one?

He has one, but if he wears a hat it doesn't show very much.

But I guess it depends on the hat..

[Vrede too]

... I remember in the early 90's traveling in the South that in some areas religion was a Big Deal. It still may be, but I suspect not as much now as then.

I wish. Think of how often you hear of rotten pols or laws in the South. Religion, specifically Baptist con religion, is almost always behind it.

[Limier than most]

Your politics offten makes the papers here in UK, especially since that refreshingly different chap, Mr. Trump, got the top job.

One detail l really struggle with is religion.

I keep seeing statistics telling me that huge numbers of Americans are actively and genuinely religious, and it is an important political factor.

UK is basically a post-religious society, with numbers of genuinely devout people falling over the centuries since our Civil War (when the English Taliban won, offshoots of whom left on the Mayflower).

Religion is utterly irrelevant in our politics.

Is it really a big deal there?

A good part of these "religious" people here are actually just hypocrites and bigots who use their professed religious faith to impose their concept of society or morality on the rest of the population. Politicians here pay lip service to religion because it's easy for them and has no real down side for them. In the past two decades or so the "religious" crowd of voters has been working overtime to convince all the rest of us that we've lost some former imaginary noble grandeur and somehow it's due to a lack of religion. Fortunately, these fools don't affect me and I find theme easy to ignore and even disparage. But I sort of thought that Northern Ireland is still pretty religious......isn't it?

Thanks.

NI isn't really a religious area,but identity really matters there.


Old joke:

An atheist is driving in Belfast and he gets stopped at an paramilitary road block. A paramilitary walks up to the window and asks him "Catholic or Protestant?" The atheist looks at him and says "well, I'm an atheist". The paramilitary nods: "Ah okay, but are you a Catholic or a Protestant atheist?’’

Still funny because it's still true.

I suppose I am a Protestant atheist since that was the stripe of religion I was exposed to as a child. But I have no doubts that I could have just as easily been a Catholic atheist had I been exposed to that particular stripe. I just didn't have the opportunity to reject the Catholic version even though I am confident I would have done so just as easily as I dismissed the other brand. I think of if like peanut butter, which I hate and will not eat. You bring me half a dozen different brands of it; I will reject them all.

...you dislike peanut butter?

You infidel! I will hunt you down and crucify you!!! Or possibly find a peanut/salt/palm-oil related way to make you die!!!

[Limier than most]

...Old joke:

An atheist is driving in Belfast and he gets stopped at an paramilitary road block. A paramilitary walks up to the window and asks him "Catholic or Protestant?" The atheist looks at him and says "well, I'm an atheist". The paramilitary nods: "Ah okay, but are you a Catholic or a Protestant atheist?’’

Still funny because it's still true.

We have the same joke but omit the Catholic choice.

I suppose I am a Protestant atheist since that was the stripe of religion I was exposed to as a child. But I have no doubts that I could have just as easily been a Catholic atheist had I been exposed to that particular stripe. I just didn't have the opportunity to reject the Catholic version even though I am confident I would have done so just as easily as I dismissed the other brand. I think of if like peanut butter, which I hate and will not eat. You bring me half a dozen different brands of it; I will reject them all.

- all 3 of you.

I was loosely raised a Protestant atheist, am Jewish atheist through my father's side of the family, eventually gravitated to vague pagan atheism and now, thanks to banni's infrastructure and O Really's wisdom, am my own Superstar Cultmaster atheist.

I have never been asked about this at a paramilitary roadblock, FSM forbid, but suspect that all sides would immediately shoot me.

At least they're not bigots.