President* Trump

[billy.pilgrim]

Let's add to Donny's stress level a bit......well capitalized, low debt my ass.

Trump Organization, hit by virus, tries to delay loan payments

Well why not, aren't they just average Americans struggling side by side with us from the 58th floor?

[GoCubsGo]

They've gotta be fucking kidding.

Secret Service signs $45,000 “emergency order” for golf carts at Trump club amid pandemic

[Vrede too]

They've gotta be fucking kidding.

Secret Service signs $45,000 “emergency order” for golf carts at Trump club amid pandemic

Same topic, different article's comments:

The Secret Service signed an 'Emergency order' this week for 30 Golf Carts ......Jared Kushner suggests voters 'think about who will be a competent manager during the time of crisis' .....Maybe we should .....

Since most America are getting some form of money from the Stimulus bills, TRUMP figured he can get his own form of Stimulus package!!

----- What about face masks instead? Trump needs to go.

Maybe someone can doctor the paperwork (no pun intended) and substitute ventilators for golf carts.

[Vrede too]

They've gotta be fucking kidding.

Secret Service signs $45,000 “emergency order” for golf carts at Trump club amid pandemic

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Nero fiddled while Rome burned. Trump golfs while Americans die.

We are all oblivious to what the term “essential” means... hospitals,grocery stores,supply stores,hvac repair,auto repair and of course... GOLFING.

Because it's an EMERGENCY for trump to PLAY GOLF at yet ANOTHER of his FAILING BUSINESES - YOUR TAX $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ lining his pockets every day while he laughs his way to the bank. NOVEMBER can't come fast enough!

You would think if you own the facility, you would give free rooms and cart fees to the S.S..

Trump is America's virus.

[O Really]

If this is done in a quarantined stadium full of cheering spectators Covid-infested Republicans, so much the better.

Money well spent!

Fixed it for you.

[billy.pilgrim]

Here's another really stupid idea from the king of really stupid ideas

dumbass trump floated another tax subsidy idea for the rich and for himself claiming that entertainment expenses, such as the ability to deduct concessions and tickets from taxes would be great for him and his bff.

[Vrede too]

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Fuck trump.

Sailors cheer for aircraft carrier commander who was removed after issuing coronavirus warning

"In yo' faces, PINO and Acting Navy Secretary Thomas Modly!"
-- Sincerely, USS Theodore Roosevelt crew

Donald Trump is playing with revolutionary fire

... As Crozier departed the Roosevelt, the remaining crew sent him off to wild cheers. "One of the greatest captains you ever had … the man for the people," said one sailor. Such a sight ought to freeze the blood of any American politician. Historically, treating the armed forces with gratuitous contempt runs a serious risk of mutinies or revolution. He surely does not know it, but Trump is playing with fire....

It is of course exceedingly difficult to imagine American sailors and soldiers turning against the Trump administration. But extreme crises can sometimes change attitudes very, very quickly. There's a reason why in previous crises, like the standoff over the debt ceiling in 2013, the government always took care to make sure the military paychecks kept flowing. But Trump's titanic narcissism and ignorance make this danger impossible for him to grasp.

On the contrary, Trump has made it abundantly clear that the only qualification that matters for top military personnel is personal loyalty to him. Secretary of Defense Mark Esper fired Undersecretary for Policy John Rood because he was involved with the aid to Ukraine that got Trump impeached. As of early March, over "a third of all Senate-confirmed civilian positions at the Department of Defense are now vacant or filled by temporary officials," Politico reports, in part because "a 29-year-old Trump loyalist ... is now trying to exert more control over the Pentagon’s nominating process." Trump is a man so petty that his administration ordered the USS John McCain hidden behind a tarp during a Trump visit to Japan because the president previously feuded with the ship's namesake, and they did not want to trigger a temper tantrum.

Trump's treatment of Captain Crozier also makes a jarring contrast with what he did for Eddie Gallagher, a Navy SEAL who was turned in by his own fellow troops for allegedly murdering civilians and a captured prisoner in cold blood. Trump interfered in his prosecution and reversed his demotion. The message is clear: Commit war crimes and Fox News will get the president to turn you into a right-wing celebrity grifter, but try to save your troops from a disease pandemic and your career is toast.

Finally, the coronavirus pandemic comes after two decades of ceaseless imperialist warmongering, at a cost of perhaps $6.4 trillion and hundreds of thousands of U.S. troops killed, maimed, or psychologically injured, for no benefit whatsoever. America invaded and occupied Afghanistan in 2001; nearly 20 years later that country is in worse shape than it was when we started. America invaded Iraq on false pretenses and turned it into a dystopian nightmare hell. Fifty-eight percent of veterans say the war in Afghanistan was not worth fighting; 64 percent say the same thing about the war in Iraq.

American soldiers generally come from the middle of the income distribution, with the poorest and especially the richest neighborhoods underrepresented. The military is also considerably more diverse than the general population (except for the Marines, the smallest of the service branches). It is surely unlikely that dipping morale among the troops could suddenly curdle into boiling, insurrectionary rage, but it's not impossible. American soldiers have been pointlessly shoveled into a meat grinder for two decades, and now their officers have to sacrifice themselves to get Trump to protect them from a viral pandemic?

Make no mistake, segments of the military in open conflict with the president would be a terrifying development. Full-blown military revolts often end with some strongman general installing himself as dictator. America is hopefully still a long ways from that, but with Donald Trump as the commander-in-chief, with the lockstep backing of almost the entire Republican Party, and with potentially hundreds of thousands of Americans dying in the pandemic, would you really rule it out?

The author admits that a coup or significant resistance from the military is unlikely, but it's fascinating that it's even a possibility.

“If you think that during a campaign, you’re not going to see a lot of money from the Trump administration going to battleground states Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Florida, you would be grossly underestimating the venality of this president."
-- Bernie Sanders
https://www.yahoo.com/news/bernie-sande ... news_index

Two months in, Trump's coronavirus response creates more chaos

[neoplacebo]

As a veteran, I really can't see why any vet would support trump.

[O Really]

As a veteran, I really can't see why any vet would support trump.

Well "as a veteran" means different things to different people. Some people may wear their VFW hat or wear a hat with the name of their ship on it, but their more immediate issues are not wanting them Libs to take their guns away, or not wanting the Meskins to sneak in raping and pillaging and picking their apples. But yeah, if you look at Trump from the standpoint of use of the military, concern for veterans' issues, etc., he's clearly a total fail.

[O Really]

Ontario PM Doug Ford, who has tried his best to be as Trumpy as he could and still live in Canada, has now joined those who "know who your friends are." https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnis ... rt-of-n95s

Maybe trumpism isn't totally incurable after all.

[neoplacebo]

As a veteran, I really can't see why any vet would support trump.

Well "as a veteran" means different things to different people. Some people may wear their VFW hat or wear a hat with the name of their ship on it, but their more immediate issues are not wanting them Libs to take their guns away, or not wanting the Meskins to sneak in raping and pillaging and picking their apples. But yeah, if you look at Trump from the standpoint of use of the military, concern for veterans' issues, etc., he's clearly a total fail.

Yeah. you've got a point there; veterans are no smarter or dumber than the general population. Actually, as a group they're probably dumber after decades of the "all volunteer" military.

[neoplacebo]

Ontario PM Doug Ford, who has tried his best to be as Trumpy as he could and still live in Canada, has now joined those who "know who your friends are." https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnis ... rt-of-n95s

Maybe trumpism isn't totally incurable after all.

Wasn't there a Canadian mayor named Ford who was a popular crack head and general hell raiser? Seems I remember something a few years ago about some mayor in Canada who was caught or admitted to getting high on crack......thought his name was Ford. It's hard to remember stuff when you're on drugs.

[O Really]

Ontario PM Doug Ford, who has tried his best to be as Trumpy as he could and still live in Canada, has now joined those who "know who your friends are." https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnis ... rt-of-n95s

Maybe trumpism isn't totally incurable after all.

Wasn't there a Canadian mayor named Ford who was a popular crack head and general hell raiser? Seems I remember something a few years ago about some mayor in Canada who was caught or admitted to getting high on crack......thought his name was Ford. It's hard to remember stuff when you're on drugs.

Yepper, that was Doug's brother Rob, former mayor of Toronto, who was equally or more bat-shit.

[neoplacebo]

Ontario PM Doug Ford, who has tried his best to be as Trumpy as he could and still live in Canada, has now joined those who "know who your friends are." https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnis ... rt-of-n95s

Maybe trumpism isn't totally incurable after all.

Wasn't there a Canadian mayor named Ford who was a popular crack head and general hell raiser? Seems I remember something a few years ago about some mayor in Canada who was caught or admitted to getting high on crack......thought his name was Ford. It's hard to remember stuff when you're on drugs.

Yepper, that was Doug's brother Rob, former mayor of Toronto, who was equally or more bat-shit.

Thanks. I find all that to be pretty interesting. Strange, though.

[Vrede too]

As a veteran, I really can't see why any vet would support trump.

Well "as a veteran" means different things to different people. Some people may wear their VFW hat or wear a hat with the name of their ship on it, but their more immediate issues are not wanting them Libs to take their guns away, or not wanting the Meskins to sneak in raping and pillaging and picking their apples. But yeah, if you look at Trump from the standpoint of use of the military, concern for veterans' issues, etc., he's clearly a total fail.

Acting Navy Secretary Lambastes Ousted Captain in Speech to Sailors On His Former Ship

This right-wing National Review article reads like a Navy press release rather than actual reporting. For example, did the crew cheer Acting Navy Secretary Thomas Modly like they did ousted Captain Brett Crozier? I’ll bet not.

[O Really]

For example, did the crew cheer Acting Navy Secretary Thomas Modly like they did ousted Captain Brett Crozier? I’ll bet not.

I'm pretty sure if they had, it would have been prominently shown.

[neoplacebo]

As a veteran, I really can't see why any vet would support trump.

Well "as a veteran" means different things to different people. Some people may wear their VFW hat or wear a hat with the name of their ship on it, but their more immediate issues are not wanting them Libs to take their guns away, or not wanting the Meskins to sneak in raping and pillaging and picking their apples. But yeah, if you look at Trump from the standpoint of use of the military, concern for veterans' issues, etc., he's clearly a total fail.

Acting Navy Secretary Lambastes Ousted Captain in Speech to Sailors On His Former Ship

This right-wing National Review article reads like a Navy press release rather than actual reporting. For example, did the crew cheer Acting Navy Secretary Thomas Modly like they did ousted Captain Brett Crozier? I’ll bet not.

Well, that's Irrational Review......I often comment on articles they've put out that are particularly irrational and feloniously stupid.

[Vrede too]

For example, did the crew cheer Acting Navy Secretary Thomas Modly like they did ousted Captain Brett Crozier? I’ll bet not.

I'm pretty sure if they had, it would have been prominently shown.

Sailors reportedly 'livid' with acting Navy secretary after he blasts captain who expressed coronavirus concerns

PINO's now saying that he may get involved, but I'll bet that the WH was already involved in the firing and Modly's trip to the ship, and it may have even ordered both.

[neoplacebo]

For example, did the crew cheer Acting Navy Secretary Thomas Modly like they did ousted Captain Brett Crozier? I’ll bet not.

I'm pretty sure if they had, it would have been prominently shown.

Sailors reportedly 'livid' with acting Navy secretary after he blasts captain who expressed coronavirus concerns

PINO's now saying that he may get involved, but I'll bet that the WH was already involved in the firing and Modly's trip to the ship, and it may have even ordered both.

I agree. Nobody in trump world gets fired without trump being in charge of it.

[Whack9]