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PeacefulPartier wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 10:04 pm
billy.pilgrim wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 5:00 pm
PeacefulPartier wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 3:38 pm
billy.pilgrim wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 3:32 pm
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That's what happens when you have socialized medicine. What did you expect?

Also, that is what she said. She said the spread is the same in each country, not the infection mortality rate.
What does socialized medicine have to do with social distancing?


Sweden has 33,000 cases
Denmark has 11,000
Finland has 8,000
Norway has 6,500
Nothing. It has to do with the deaths per million. Haven't you noticed that all of the western countries that have socialized medicine also have a greater rate of death? OH, and they are buying ventilators from us because they can't make them.
I get it, you lost your original point, so you change it.

Or are you saying that Norway, with 235 deaths, its social distancing and economic slowdown, made a bad decision to take precautions

based on the fact that wide open Falkland Islands don't have any cases?
Didn't lose anything. I correlated related issues. Maybe you lost since you can't defend your precious social medicine.
Maybe if I ask again


Like they have in Norway?

What related issues did you "correlate"?

How could all of the western countries that have socialized medicine also have a greater rate of death, when we are the only western country without socialized medicine and, save a few ties, WE HAVE the GREATEST DEATH rate?

I'm sure that pp will become a great advocate of medicine for all, now that he has the facts
Trump: “We had the safest border in the history of our country - or at least recorded history. I guess maybe a thousand years ago it was even better.”

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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 8:17 am
PeacefulPartier wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 10:04 pm
billy.pilgrim wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 5:00 pm
PeacefulPartier wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 3:38 pm
billy.pilgrim wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 3:32 pm


What does socialized medicine have to do with social distancing?


Sweden has 33,000 cases
Denmark has 11,000
Finland has 8,000
Norway has 6,500
Nothing. It has to do with the deaths per million. Haven't you noticed that all of the western countries that have socialized medicine also have a greater rate of death? OH, and they are buying ventilators from us because they can't make them.
I get it, you lost your original point, so you change it.

Or are you saying that Norway, with 235 deaths, its social distancing and economic slowdown, made a bad decision to take precautions

based on the fact that wide open Falkland Islands don't have any cases?
Didn't lose anything. I correlated related issues. Maybe you lost since you can't defend your precious social medicine.
Maybe if I ask again


Like they have in Norway?

What related issues did you "correlate"?

How could all of the western countries that have socialized medicine also have a greater rate of death, when we are the only western country without socialized medicine and, save a few ties, WE HAVE the GREATEST DEATH rate?

I'm sure that pp will become a great advocate of medicine for all, now that he has the facts
When sorted by deaths per million: https://www.statista.com/statistics/110 ... habitants/

Belgium - Similar to medicare for all
Spain - Similar to medicare for all
UK - UHC
Italy - UHC
France - Similar to medicare for all
Sweden - UHC
Netherlands - Similar to medicare for all
Ireland - UHC
US - Partially Private and partially publicly funded.

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PeacefulPartier wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 11:18 am
billy.pilgrim wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 8:17 am
PeacefulPartier wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 10:04 pm
billy.pilgrim wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 5:00 pm
PeacefulPartier wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 3:38 pm


Nothing. It has to do with the deaths per million. Haven't you noticed that all of the western countries that have socialized medicine also have a greater rate of death? OH, and they are buying ventilators from us because they can't make them.
I get it, you lost your original point, so you change it.

Or are you saying that Norway, with 235 deaths, its social distancing and economic slowdown, made a bad decision to take precautions

based on the fact that wide open Falkland Islands don't have any cases?
Didn't lose anything. I correlated related issues. Maybe you lost since you can't defend your precious social medicine.
Maybe if I ask again


Like they have in Norway?

What related issues did you "correlate"?

How could all of the western countries that have socialized medicine also have a greater rate of death, when we are the only western country without socialized medicine and, save a few ties, WE HAVE the GREATEST DEATH rate?

I'm sure that pp will become a great advocate of medicine for all, now that he has the facts
When sorted by deaths per million: https://www.statista.com/statistics/110 ... habitants/

Belgium - Similar to medicare for all
Spain - Similar to medicare for all
UK - UHC
Italy - UHC
France - Similar to medicare for all
Sweden - UHC
Netherlands - Similar to medicare for all
Ireland - UHC
US - Partially Private and partially publicly funded.

Sorry pp, but posting random names of countries that did poorer than us doesn't mean much.

Bigger picture:
No, zero, none of the larger countries without socialized medicine are doing better than 80% of the countries with socialized medicine.

Didn't you mean that

We are the winner in the countries that you picked because of their type of health care. All did better than us.

US cases per million 5,157
Belgium - 4,985
Spain - 4,998
UK - 3,992
Italy - 3,820
France - 2,166
Sweden - 3,333
Netherlands - 2,612
Ireland - 5,018

We won, huh pp?


Now, please explain to me how you correlated related issues
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... Plus, he's just not making sense. The US has the 12th worst deaths per 1M population.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
That means that almost all developed democracies and most of the other 169 other nations that also use single payer and where we have a death rate are doing better than we are with the parasitic Big Insurance that PP loves.
According to PP's link Dolt .45's US looks even worse - 9th worst in the world out of "145 entries in total". Smart, PP, smart.
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In this timeline the president* of the United States goes to war against.... twitter...


.@Twitter is now interfering in the 2020 Presidential Election. They are saying my statement on Mail-In Ballots, which will lead to massive corruption and fraud, is incorrect, based on fact-checking by Fake News CNN and the Amazon Washington Post....
....Twitter is completely stifling FREE SPEECH, and I, as President, will not allow it to happen!

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bannination wrote:
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In this timeline the president* of the United States goes to war against.... twitter...


.@Twitter is now interfering in the 2020 Presidential Election. They are saying my statement on Mail-In Ballots, which will lead to massive corruption and fraud, is incorrect, based on fact-checking by Fake News CNN and the Amazon Washington Post....
....Twitter is completely stifling FREE SPEECH, and I, as President, will not allow it to happen!
Great, our POTUS is so Constitution-ignorant that he doesn't know that there's no such thing as "FREE SPEECH" on a private platform, and that any action by him other than whining would be a 1st Amendment violation.
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Vrede too wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 9:07 pm
bannination wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 8:55 pm
In this timeline the president* of the United States goes to war against.... twitter...


.@Twitter is now interfering in the 2020 Presidential Election. They are saying my statement on Mail-In Ballots, which will lead to massive corruption and fraud, is incorrect, based on fact-checking by Fake News CNN and the Amazon Washington Post....
....Twitter is completely stifling FREE SPEECH, and I, as President, will not allow it to happen!
Great, our POTUS is so Constitution-ignorant that he doesn't know that there's no such thing as "FREE SPEECH" on a private platform, and that any action by him other than whining would be a 1st Amendment violation.
This surprises you why?
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Coulda just ended the sentence at "Constitution-ignorant". Or deleted the word "Constitution."

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Ann Coulter Turns on ‘Disloyal Actual Retard’ Trump in Twitter Rant

Epic diatribe, definitely worth skimming the tweets.
Conservative Commentator Rips ‘Weak, Insecure Coward’ Trump In Blistering Column
S.E. Cupp slams the president for “picking on the dead and harassing their surviving family members.”


Repugs are starting to get nervous about Nov 3. Cupp and Coulter are blazing the trail, purple state or district pols will soon follow.
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I think it's a major turn when hard-right zealots like Coulter and Cupp are openly calling Trump "moron" and such. There have been weak-willied comments by Repugs before, like "I wish he wouldn't tweet so much..." or "there may have been other ways to handle that, but..." This may be the first insult-style rebuke any of them have tossed at him - and Coulter's comments can't easily be walked back.

Not that I think Coulter is any less of a fruitloop herself just because she insults Trump, but it's a far cry from the tone and content of her "The Great and Wonderful Trump" books.

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Trump:
WARRANTLESS SURVEILLANCE OF AMERICANS IS WRONG!

Yep, good reason to not vote republican.

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GoCubsGo wrote:
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Vrede too wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 2:51 pm
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... Uncertain date. Told the prime minister of India that it doesn’t have a border with China when that border is 500 miles longer than ours is with Mexico and a war was once fought over it.
https://www.news.com.au/world/north-ame ... 1fc84696eb ...
Trump Is Offering to Mediate in the India-China Border Dispute. Here's What to Know About the Escalating Tensions

:roll: :lol:
Goofus is still smarting about being snubbed for a Noble Prize for his ground breaking talks with North Korea.
Yeah, that was just mean of the Noble committee.

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That would be a total disaster for all parties involved
Trump's mediation record is currently ziltch! Trump should stay out of international disputes until he can properly govern and lead America.
In other words, NEVER
Seriously? Trump can’t even mediate the McDonald's vs Taco Bell option. Unless they want to declare bankruptcy six times, then he’s your man.
As long as Trump is not on your negotiating team, you’re sure to win!
Based on Trump’s progress with N Korea, not a good idea.
Great minds, GoCubsGo.
Trump will make it worse, just like he has done here!
Trump mediate - LOL.
ROFLMAO ...Trump can't coax Melania into sharing a room in WH and he sets off to mediate an ancient dispute ..
Zing!
I guess he wants another diversion instead of addressing the real issues in his home country.
A country that is currently in 3 never-ending wars wants to mediate? Gee, I wonder if that's a good candidate for that job?!
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Numbnuts retweeting a Media Matters dig.....

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Numbnuts retweeting a Media Matters dig.....
Sorry, that page doesn’t exist!
Darn, sounds like a good one.
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Vrede too wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 12:26 am
GoCubsGo wrote:
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Numbnuts retweeting a Media Matters dig.....
Sorry, that page doesn’t exist!
Darn, sounds like a good one.
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LOL.

Twitter censored one of Trump's tweets for violating the ToS in calling for violence:



(Go to twitter to see it being censored)

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https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/29/tech/tru ... index.html

trump is threatening have looters (or presumed looters) shot on site by ...? - whoever wants to shoot them
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 11:51 am
PeacefulPartier wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 11:18 am
billy.pilgrim wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 8:17 am
PeacefulPartier wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 10:04 pm
billy.pilgrim wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 5:00 pm


I get it, you lost your original point, so you change it.

Or are you saying that Norway, with 235 deaths, its social distancing and economic slowdown, made a bad decision to take precautions

based on the fact that wide open Falkland Islands don't have any cases?
Didn't lose anything. I correlated related issues. Maybe you lost since you can't defend your precious social medicine.
Maybe if I ask again


Like they have in Norway?

What related issues did you "correlate"?

How could all of the western countries that have socialized medicine also have a greater rate of death, when we are the only western country without socialized medicine and, save a few ties, WE HAVE the GREATEST DEATH rate?

I'm sure that pp will become a great advocate of medicine for all, now that he has the facts
When sorted by deaths per million: https://www.statista.com/statistics/110 ... habitants/

Belgium - Similar to medicare for all
Spain - Similar to medicare for all
UK - UHC
Italy - UHC
France - Similar to medicare for all
Sweden - UHC
Netherlands - Similar to medicare for all
Ireland - UHC
US - Partially Private and partially publicly funded.

Sorry pp, but posting random names of countries that did poorer than us doesn't mean much.

Bigger picture:
No, zero, none of the larger countries without socialized medicine are doing better than 80% of the countries with socialized medicine.

Didn't you mean that

We are the winner in the countries that you picked because of their type of health care. All did better than us.

US cases per million 5,157
Belgium - 4,985
Spain - 4,998
UK - 3,992
Italy - 3,820
France - 2,166
Sweden - 3,333
Netherlands - 2,612
Ireland - 5,018

We won, huh pp?


Now, please explain to me how you correlated related issues
Yes we did. The numbers you posted are not relevant. How does a health care system prevent a new virus from spreading? It can't. The real test is how many people die. With the US leading in the number of cases per million but also having far fewer deaths per million tells us that our health care system did a far better job in treating the problem. In a way, you helped me prove my point.

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PP is actually bragging about the US Deaths per million being the 9th worst in the world???!!!
https://www.statista.com/statistics/110 ... habitants/
Wow, that is a sad and desperate English and Arithmetic failure.
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