COVIDiots

[Vrede too]

Holy crap, didn't take long.

also has 1,156 students and 37 staff in quarantine, according to a district list.

It's now 2 of Cherokee County, GA's 6 high schools that are closed. 79 + cases across 21 schools. Meanwhile, parents in rational school districts have prepared for remote learning for a month or longer.

Now >2000 students in quarantine and 3 high schools closed.

[GoCubsGo]

Holy crap, didn't take long.

also has 1,156 students and 37 staff in quarantine, according to a district list.

It's now 2 of Cherokee County, GA's 6 high schools that are closed. 79 + cases across 21 schools. Meanwhile, parents in rational school districts have prepared for remote learning for a month or longer.

Now >2000 students in quarantine and 3 high schools closed.

i was premature with my Holy Crap.

[Vrede too]

i was premature with my Holy Crap.

Might as well just keep saying it.

This is obscene, and should be criminal:

COVID in the Classroom? Shhh. Some Schools Are Keeping It Quiet.

On the first day of school in Camden County, Georgia, local Facebook groups were already buzzing with rumors that a teacher had tested positive for the coronavirus. The next day, a warning went out to school administrators: Keep teachers quiet.

“Staff who test positive are not to notify any other staff members, parents of their students or any other person/entity that they may have exposed them,” wrote Jon Miller, the district’s deputy superintendent, in a confidential email Aug. 5.

In the weeks since, parents, students and teachers in the coastal community on the Florida border have heard by word-of-mouth of more positive cases linked to district schools. Some parents said they had been called by local officials and told that their children should quarantine.

But even as fears of an outbreak have grown, the district has refused to publicly confirm a single case, either to the local community or The New York Times.

“This is a danger to our community,” said Cheryl Honeycutt, mother of an 8-year-old Camden student. “We’re safer if we know what’s going on, but their pan answer is, ‘We can neither confirm or deny.’”

Georgia, again.

As schools in parts of the country have reopened classrooms amid a still-raging pandemic, some districts have been open about coronavirus cases in their buildings. They send weekly — and in some cases daily — reports to families and updating online dashboards with the latest positive test results and quarantine counts.

But others districts have been silent, sometimes citing privacy concerns to withhold information, to the dismay of some anxious parents, concerned educators and public health experts trying to combat the pandemic.

“If schools don’t notify, it actually can make disease control more difficult,” said Dr. Ashish Jha, director of the Harvard Global Health Institute. “And it’s not like no one will know. Word will get out through a rumor mill. You don’t scare people by telling them what’s going on. You scare them by hiding information.”

In many places, reopening schools has taken on a distinctly partisan bent, with President Donald Trump and Republican governors such as Ron DeSantis of Florida urging in-person instruction. A constant flow of information about positive cases in classrooms and quarantined students could hinder those efforts, experts said.

“When schools have to shut down after students test positive, that doesn’t look good politically on governors and lawmakers who have advocated for opening up,” said Clay Calvert, director of the Marion B. Brechner First Amendment Project at the University of Florida. “So the potential is there to hide behind privacy laws. There are definitely battle lines drawn, and the release of information can sway public opinion.”

Indeed, some states have seen growing concern after school doors opened and infections were immediately reported. In Georgia, nearly 2,500 students and 62 staff members in the Cherokee County School District have been ordered to quarantine, while 71 out of 82 counties in Mississippi have reported cases in schools.

State notification policies vary widely across the country. Officials in Colorado and North Carolina are reporting which schools have had positive cases, while Louisiana, which had not previously identified specific schools with outbreaks, said this week that it was creating a new system to “efficiently report relevant COVID-19 data in schools for greater public visibility.”

On the other end of the spectrum, Oklahoma does not require school districts to report COVID-19 cases to health departments. And some states that do, including Maine, said that privacy concerns prevent officials from sharing those details with the public. Tennessee this week backed away from a previous commitment by the governor to report the number of cases linked to schools and is providing information only by county....

Blue states are pretty good, red states suck.

[GoCubsGo]

A twofer.
Karen and Covidiots

[billy.pilgrim]

A twofer.
Karen and Covidiots

New law in Tennessee - I believe maybe 15 years for blocking traffic, or was it 5 years and $15,000 fine
(BLM should start having BLM parties instead of protests)

[neoplacebo]

I'll go out naked on the main road near me, block some traffic, shout some obscenities, and see what happens. I'll get back to you on this.
Here's what I saw about it; nothing recent. Apparently it is ok to run over protesters without liability here in TN
https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/p ... /99122244/

[billy.pilgrim]

I'll go out naked on the main road near me, block some traffic, shout some obscenities, and see what happens. I'll get back to you on this.
Here's what I saw about it; nothing recent. Apparently it is ok to run over protesters without liability here in TN
https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/p ... /99122244/

You're March 2020.

I'm talking yesterday

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2 ... 409670001/


https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/22/politics ... index.html

[neoplacebo]

I'll go out naked on the main road near me, block some traffic, shout some obscenities, and see what happens. I'll get back to you on this.
Here's what I saw about it; nothing recent. Apparently it is ok to run over protesters without liability here in TN
https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/p ... /99122244/

You're March 2020.

I'm talking yesterday

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2 ... 409670001/


https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/22/politics ... index.html

Thanks. I searched "TN protesters face $15,000 fine" or something like that.....without actually reading the bill I can't comment on what the difference is between "protesters" and "campers" but in either case I don't expect to be camping out at city hall or using chalk on their building. However, it's not out of the realm of possibility that I may just walk past city hall and just happen to have a steaming hot sack of feces that I suddenly feel the urge to divest myself of. Fuck a bunch of chalk.

[Vrede too]

... TV news, I missed the source: 180K dead by 8/31, 3 Vietnams (GI tally) in just 8 months.

Four times the Korean War and almost half of WWII. All in seven months.

We passed US WWI deaths, 116,708, awhile ago.
About 170,353 have died here.
https://covidtracking.com/data/national
About 967 are dying daily here.
https://covidtracking.com/data/charts/us-daily-deaths
The prediction was pretty accurate. We should top 175K by the end of the month.
US WWII deaths: 419,400
At the current pace we would top WWII (3 2/3 years) sometime in April.

[Vrede too]

4 months ago, much more since:


Trump's Best Words: Coronavirus Briefing Edition | The Daily Show

[billy.pilgrim]

Hulbert and Eglin current and retired types are the vast majority in this county.

No masks required in schools

https://weartv.com/news/local/okaloosa- ... r-students

[Vrede too]

Hulbert and Eglin current and retired types are the vast majority in this county.

No masks required in schools

https://weartv.com/news/local/okaloosa- ... r-students

Bummer, that's too close to you. Schools that will soon close. Who are Hulbert and Eglin?

A Kentucky man is facing $569,000 in fines (or six years in prison) after being accused of violating Canada's COVID-19 rules

Wow.

Nearly 50 people in North Texas drank bleach this month and officials are warning people it won't prevent or cure coronavirus

... The center's public health education manager, Cristina Holloway, told NBC Dallas-Fort Worth that at least some of the callers mentioned coronavirus as a reason they swallowed the chemical. Bleach does not prevent or cure the coronavirus, and can seriously sicken, injure, or even kill people....

The Texas Poison Center Network said in a statement that it's seen a 71% uptick in calls involving bleach products, and a 63% uptick in calls involving other household cleaners....

[billy.pilgrim]

Hulbert and Eglin current and retired types are the vast majority in this county.

No masks required in schools

https://weartv.com/news/local/okaloosa- ... r-students

Bummer, that's too close to you. Schools that will soon close. Who are Hulbert and Eglin?

A Kentucky man is facing $569,000 in fines (or six years in prison) after being accused of violating Canada's COVID-19 rules

Wow.

Nearly 50 people in North Texas drank bleach this month and officials are warning people it won't prevent or cure coronavirus

... The center's public health education manager, Cristina Holloway, told NBC Dallas-Fort Worth that at least some of the callers mentioned coronavirus as a reason they swallowed the chemical. Bleach does not prevent or cure the coronavirus, and can seriously sicken, injure, or even kill people....

The Texas Poison Center Network said in a statement that it's seen a 71% uptick in calls involving bleach products, and a 63% uptick in calls involving other household cleaners....

Eglin is the biggest military base in the world, or so I've heard.
Hurlburt is at Eglin and is where AF special ops are stationed

Nearly all of Okaloosa is current or former AF.

Edit:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eglin_Air_Force_Base

[O Really]

Eglin is the biggest military base in the world, or so I've heard.
Hurlburt is at Eglin and is where AF special ops are stationed

Nearly all of Okaloosa is current or former AF.

Edit:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eglin_Air_Force_Base

#7 in US, actually, but still huge.

1. White Sands Missile Range – New Mexico; 3,542,862 acres

2. Fort Bliss – Texas; 1,332,807 acres

3. Yuma Proving Ground – Arizona; 1,008,913 acres

4. Fort Jonathan Wainwright – Alaska; 697,300 acres

5. China Lake Naval Air Weapons Station – California; 651,739 acres

6. 29 Palms Marine Corps Air/Ground Combat Center – California; 635,811 acres

7. Eglin Air Force Base – Florida; 449,421 acres

8. Joint Base Lewis-McChord Air Force Base – Washington; 414,000 acres

9. Edwards Air Force Base – California; 307,517 acres

10. Fort Stewart – Georgia; 279,155 acres

11. Fort Polk – Louisiana; 240,272 acres

12. Fort Hood – Texas; 218,025 acres

13. Fort Benning – Georgia; 179,353 acres

14. Fort Bragg – North Carolina; 152,085 acres

15. Fort McCoy – Wisconsin; 138,323 acres

16. Fort Carson – Colorado; 137,411 acres

17. Camp Shelby – Mississippi; 136,215

18. Fort Knox – Kentucky; 127,930 acres

19. Camp Pendleton – California; 126,749 acres

20. Fort Drum – New York; 124,765 acres

21. Vandenberg Air Force Base – California; 118,312 acres

22. Fort Riley – Kansas; 97,112 acres

23. Fort Sill – Oklahoma; 93,829 acres

24. Aberdeen Proving Ground – Maryland; 76,793 acres

25. Fort Leonard Wood – Missouri; 67,437 acres

26. Marine Corps Base Quantico – Virginia; 60,320 acres

27. Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson – Alaska; 60,027 acres

29. Camp Lejeune Marine Corps Base – North Carolina; 57,319 acres

30. Fort Gordon – Georgia; 55,597 acres

31. Air Force Academy – Colorado; 53,136 acres

32. Fort Jackson – South Carolina; 51,900 acres

33. Holloman Air Force Base – New Mexico; 3,725 acres

34. Marine Corps Mountain Warfare Training – California; 44,452 acres

35. Kirtland Air Force Base – New Mexico; 43,842 acres

36. Redstone Arsenal – Alabama; 38,288 acres

37. Fort Campbell – Kentucky; 36,739 acres

38. Fort Dix – New Jersey; 30,720 acres

39. Naval Air Station Lemoore – California; 29,408 acres

40. Tyndall Air Force Base – Florida; 28,824 acres

41. Eielson Air Force Base – Alaska; 24,926 acres

42. Marine Corps Air Station Miramar – California; 22,906 acres

43. Fallon Naval Air Station – Nevada; 22,511 acres

44. Barksdale Air Force Base – Louisiana; 22,504 acres

45. Beale Air Force Base – California; 22,451 acres

46. Fort Irwin – California; 22,154 acres

47. Francis E. Warren Air Force Base – Wyoming; 18,446 acres; 2,954

48. Schofield Barracks – Hawaii; 17,725 acres; 16,725 active duty service members

49. Joint Base Charleston – South Carolina; 16,729 acres; 5,975 active duty service members

50. Kings Bay Navy Submarine Base – Georgia; 16,616 acres; 2,717 active duty service members

[billy.pilgrim]

Eglin is the biggest military base in the world, or so I've heard.
Hurlburt is at Eglin and is where AF special ops are stationed

Nearly all of Okaloosa is current or former AF.

Edit:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eglin_Air_Force_Base

#7 in US, actually, but still huge.

1. White Sands Missile Range – New Mexico; 3,542,862 acres

2. Fort Bliss – Texas; 1,332,807 acres

3. Yuma Proving Ground – Arizona; 1,008,913 acres

4. Fort Jonathan Wainwright – Alaska; 697,300 acres

5. China Lake Naval Air Weapons Station – California; 651,739 acres

6. 29 Palms Marine Corps Air/Ground Combat Center – California; 635,811 acres

7. Eglin Air Force Base – Florida; 449,421 acres

8. Joint Base Lewis-McChord Air Force Base – Washington; 414,000 acres

9. Edwards Air Force Base – California; 307,517 acres

10. Fort Stewart – Georgia; 279,155 acres

11. Fort Polk – Louisiana; 240,272 acres

12. Fort Hood – Texas; 218,025 acres

13. Fort Benning – Georgia; 179,353 acres

14. Fort Bragg – North Carolina; 152,085 acres

15. Fort McCoy – Wisconsin; 138,323 acres

16. Fort Carson – Colorado; 137,411 acres

17. Camp Shelby – Mississippi; 136,215

18. Fort Knox – Kentucky; 127,930 acres

19. Camp Pendleton – California; 126,749 acres

20. Fort Drum – New York; 124,765 acres

21. Vandenberg Air Force Base – California; 118,312 acres

22. Fort Riley – Kansas; 97,112 acres

23. Fort Sill – Oklahoma; 93,829 acres

24. Aberdeen Proving Ground – Maryland; 76,793 acres

25. Fort Leonard Wood – Missouri; 67,437 acres

26. Marine Corps Base Quantico – Virginia; 60,320 acres

27. Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson – Alaska; 60,027 acres

29. Camp Lejeune Marine Corps Base – North Carolina; 57,319 acres

30. Fort Gordon – Georgia; 55,597 acres

31. Air Force Academy – Colorado; 53,136 acres

32. Fort Jackson – South Carolina; 51,900 acres

33. Holloman Air Force Base – New Mexico; 3,725 acres

34. Marine Corps Mountain Warfare Training – California; 44,452 acres

35. Kirtland Air Force Base – New Mexico; 43,842 acres

36. Redstone Arsenal – Alabama; 38,288 acres

37. Fort Campbell – Kentucky; 36,739 acres

38. Fort Dix – New Jersey; 30,720 acres

39. Naval Air Station Lemoore – California; 29,408 acres

40. Tyndall Air Force Base – Florida; 28,824 acres

41. Eielson Air Force Base – Alaska; 24,926 acres

42. Marine Corps Air Station Miramar – California; 22,906 acres

43. Fallon Naval Air Station – Nevada; 22,511 acres

44. Barksdale Air Force Base – Louisiana; 22,504 acres

45. Beale Air Force Base – California; 22,451 acres

46. Fort Irwin – California; 22,154 acres

47. Francis E. Warren Air Force Base – Wyoming; 18,446 acres; 2,954

48. Schofield Barracks – Hawaii; 17,725 acres; 16,725 active duty service members

49. Joint Base Charleston – South Carolina; 16,729 acres; 5,975 active duty service members

50. Kings Bay Navy Submarine Base – Georgia; 16,616 acres; 2,717 active duty service members

I've been lied to by my military neighbors, oh my


Edit:

But then I see this. Maybe semantics created "largest"


https://www.eenews.net/stories/1060002019


"At 460,000 acres, Eglin Air Force Base is considered the largest air force installation in the free world, with forest and beaches stretching across three Northwest Florida counties"

[billy.pilgrim]

Maybe number of aircraft or personnel

[O Really]

Largest "Air Force" base.

[Vrede too]

Maybe number of ... personnel

That's what I wondered as your discussion progressed. We lose.

The world’s biggest military bases

Fort Bragg, NC (population: 270,811, area: 163,000 acres) ...

Fort Campbell, KY/TN (population: 237,497, area: 105,000 acres) ...

Fort Hood Military Base, TX (population: 227,000, area: 214,968 acres) ...

Joint Base Lewis – McChord (JBLM), WA (population: 175,000, area: 414,000 acres) ...

Fort Benning, AL/GA (population: 105,887, area: 182,000 acres) ...

It only does top 5, sorry.

Note in the unquoted text that "population" includes more than active duty members. Maybe the ranking would shift a bit if just they were counted.

[billy.pilgrim]

Largest "Air Force" base.

Bingo

[Vrede too]

Largest "Air Force" base.

Bingo

According to this, which I trust but won't claim is definitive, Nellis is much bigger in physical size and slightly larger in personnel:

America's Largest Military Bases

19. Edwards Air Force Base
> State: California
> Nearest city: Lancaster
> Service branch: Air Force
> Physical size: 307,517 acres
> Personnel: 4,611

17. Utah Test and Training Range North
> State: Utah
> Nearest city: Ogden
> Service branch: Air Force
> Physical size: 366,877 acres
> Personnel: N/A

16. Eglin Air Force Base
> State: Florida
> Nearest city: Holt
> Service branch: Air Force
> Physical size: 449,421 acres
> Personnel: 21,170

Eglin Air Force Base is home to the 96th Test Wing, the largest in the Air Force. The 96th tests non-nuclear munitions, navigational, and guidance systems.

13. Cusick Survival Training Site
> State: Washington
> Nearest city: Fairchild
> Service branch: Air Force
> Physical size: 494,250 acres
> Personnel: N/A

12. Utah Test and Training Range South
> State: Utah
> Nearest city: Ogden
> Service branch: Air Force
> Physical size: 572,656 acres
> Personnel: N/A

4. Barry M. Goldwater Air Force Range
> State: Arizona
> Nearest city: Gila Bend
> Service branch: Air Force
> Physical size: 1,102,325 acres
> Personnel: N/A

2. Nellis Air Force Range
> State: Nevada
> Nearest city: Indian Springs
> Service branch: Air Force
> Physical size: 3,092,317 acres
> Personnel: 21,925