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Are the "Capitol Police" real cops, I ask again. Apparently so. Sort of. They are a police force, reporting to Congress (not the president), and they do go to police academies, etc. But here's the fun part: they have ONE JOB, which is to protect the legislators and the Capitol property, including some surrounding areas. They don't have to chase criminals. They don't have to do traffic stuff. They don't have to enforce any drug stuff or harass homeless people. But they do have to do their ONE JOB, which is to protect the people and property of the Capitol, and clearly they failed miserably. Given all the internet chatter, every one of those guys should have been placed at the barricades and doors armed to the teeth and in riot gear. They should have all just stood there like Beefeaters until or unless somebody got to close, at which point they should have all taken the approach "This is MY house, muhfuckas, cross that line and you're dead meat." Even if nobody had any real expectation that the mob really would try to breach, there was enough yammer that precautions should have been taken. But noooooo. They were unprepared, undermanned, underarmed, and undisciplined. They yielded, then ran. Even the cowardly "Elite Republican Guard" in Iraq put up more of a fight before they ran. In the once instance where somebody wuz skeered enough to shoot Air Force Karen, the terrorists backed off at first and the alledged cop stopped firing and basically ran. The chief is gone, along with the Sergeants at Arms. Clean out the place - if they want to play Barney, they've got no place in DC.
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2,300 cops for the 16 acre capitol complex
Sounds crazy, but trump ...
While hiding Rep. Hoyer called Maryland governor and asked for help. Gov said he had troops ready and would call sect defense for authorization.
No one in the administration would speak to him. After hours he finally accepted authorization from some top army guy. Both knew it wasn't right.
Even more crazy, but we have to consider that trump ...
Top DC NG guy pulled ammo and weapons from all NG and ordered no confrontations with protesters.
And remember, trump told them at the rally that he would be there, then Rudy gave his "Lets have trial by combat” pep talk and off they went - likely with the taxpayer funded super sound system cranking out songs by artists who have demanded that he not play anything by them at his events.
In a day or two he'll have thousands if pardons to sign. See my Governor Blanton early removal. He had a stack of unsigned when he was escorted out.
Sounds crazy, but trump ...
While hiding Rep. Hoyer called Maryland governor and asked for help. Gov said he had troops ready and would call sect defense for authorization.
No one in the administration would speak to him. After hours he finally accepted authorization from some top army guy. Both knew it wasn't right.
Even more crazy, but we have to consider that trump ...
Top DC NG guy pulled ammo and weapons from all NG and ordered no confrontations with protesters.
And remember, trump told them at the rally that he would be there, then Rudy gave his "Lets have trial by combat” pep talk and off they went - likely with the taxpayer funded super sound system cranking out songs by artists who have demanded that he not play anything by them at his events.
In a day or two he'll have thousands if pardons to sign. See my Governor Blanton early removal. He had a stack of unsigned when he was escorted out.
Trump: “We had the safest border in the history of our country - or at least recorded history. I guess maybe a thousand years ago it was even better.”
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Capitol Police officer dies from injuries after clashing with pro-Trump mob
Whoa, heavy.
I wonder if the Terrorist in Chief restricted access to the thousands of DC alphabet LEOs that helped repress largely peaceful outdoor protest this summer, or if no one thought to seek mutual aid. Consider the mega-violence perpetrated by the feds in Portland over curfew violations, fireworks and tagging without any attempts to enter the federal building.
Whatever, there are some barn doors to close:
Maybe the FBI will slow walk IDs so that former PINO can't pardon the traitors. Joe's team will then preside over all federal actions, and almost all Repugs will stfu about it.Six Republican lawmakers among rioters as police release photos of wanted
... Tennessee state lawmaker Terri Lynn Weaver ...
This comes as the FBI and DC Police released images of people wanted on federal charges for violently storming the US Capitol. They are trying to track down 36 people after 68 were already arrested after violent clashes with police as the Trump-supporting mob broke into the Capitol, forcing members of Congress to evacuate and seek shelter in undisclosed locations. Four rioters died and 56 officers were injured in the ensuing chaos. One officer remains in hospital after being beaten and tased by the mob.
Charges include inciting a riot and weapons violations. Rioters scaled the Capitol building, defaced statues, committed countless acts of vandalism and fought with police.
The suspects include Holocaust deniers, White supremacists, and conspiracy theorists....
An unnamed man was fired from his job at a Maryland marketing firm after wearing his company badge while storming the Capitol....
"We still have a significant amount of work ahead of us to identify and hold each and every one of the violent mob accountable for their violent actions," Metropolitan Police Department chief Robert Contee said.

Trump Rioters Bring Violence To State Capitols Across The Country
Lots of interest there, but this caught my eye:
... the Texas Republican Party fired its sergeant-at-arms Wednesday after the man, Walter West, posted a message on social media apparently endorsing violence at the Capitol in Washington, D.C.
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DC cops said they were prepared to help - and did help whenever the rioters were on city streets - but they weren't asked to help beforehand. Maryland governor says MD Nat Guard offered, was declined. Something is majorly wrong in Denmark.
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So let's say for discussion that nobody could have reasonably predicted that the trumpaloons would actually storm the Capitol. What else was happening? Oh, just a joint session of Congress on or about the anniversary of the Iranian General assassination, about which the Iranians had threatened to fly a plane into the Capitol. Some might say that in itself would have been grounds for those responsible for the people and property of the Capitol to be primed for bear.
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But but but, White Christian cons are never a threat. They're just like the tourists that cops take selfies with.O Really wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:22 amSo let's say for discussion that nobody could have reasonably predicted that the trumpaloons would actually storm the Capitol. What else was happening? Oh, just a joint session of Congress on or about the anniversary of the Iranian General assassination, about which the Iranians had threatened to fly a plane into the Capitol. Some might say that in itself would have been grounds for those responsible for the people and property of the Capitol to be primed for bear.
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“Drama Queen” Hawley Lies About Protest Outside Virginia Home (with video)
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... Hawley’s statement is a gross exaggeration of what took place and almost 100% false. Someone with the group of about 15 people shot video from the time they gathered in a strip shopping center parking lot to the time they walked away from his house....
There is nothing about the group of 15 people to suggest that they have any connection to “Antifa.” By all appearances they just look to be folks who aren’t too keen on having their votes thrown in the trash by a relevancy-seeking senator with presidential aspirations.
They assembled in front of Hawley’s house and for about 20 minutes used bullhorns to amplify their chants of displeasure about Hawley’s effort to award Donald Trump another term as president. His assertion that they “vandalized” his property is probably based on the fact they wrote “Trump Lost” in chalk on the sidewalk in front of the house. Not exactly on a par with spray painting House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s garage door and pouring red paint on her driveway.
“They tried to pound open our door” just never happened. What did happen is one of the protestors left a copy of the Constitution at the front door of the residence, which seems like a kind gesture since Hawley’s Electoral College stunt shows that he’s never read it....



George Will on the Trump-Hawley-Cruz Seditionist Triumvirate
George Will, writing at The Washington Post:
“I want to take a moment to speak to my Democratic colleagues,” said Cruz. “I understand your guy is winning right now.” Read those weaselly words again. He was not speaking to his “colleagues.” He was speaking to the kind people who were at that instant assaulting the Capitol. He was nurturing the very delusions that soon would cause louts to be roaming the Senate chamber — the fantasy that Joe Biden has not won the election but is only winning “right now.”
The Trump-Hawley-Cruz insurrection against constitutional government will be an indelible stain on the nation. They, however, will not be so permanent. In 14 days, one of them will be removed from office by the constitutional processes he neither fathoms nor favors. It will take longer to scrub the other two from public life. Until that hygienic outcome is accomplished, from this day forward, everything they say or do or advocate should be disregarded as patent attempts to distract attention from the lurid fact of what they have become. Each will wear a scarlet “S” as a seditionist.

Former Sen. John Danforth (R-MO) calls supporting Josh Hawley's (R-MO) senate campaign 'the worst mistake I ever made in my life'

Twitter Users Mock Josh Hawley After He Loses Book Deal Over Capitol Riot Role
Just a few examples:
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@HawleyMO is more worked up about his book contract getting cancelled than the dead people left in his wake at the Capitol yesterday
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Great minds . . .billy.pilgrim wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:39 pm
Why is she rubbing an onion in her eyes?
Because she needs sympathy after confessing to at least 3 felonies.
One of the Trump supporters who stormed the US Capitol was carrying 11 Molotov cocktails and an assault rifle, prosecutors say
... Mike Sherwin, the acting US attorney for the District of Columbia, gave a press conference describing action taken by prosecutors against members of the pro-Trump mob which attacked the Capitol building on Wednesday....
... He also alleged that a large amount of material was stolen from congressional offices during the riot, with potential implications for national security.
"Electronic items were stolen from senators' offices. Documents, materials were stolen, and we have to identify what was done, mitigate that, and it could have potential national security equities," Sherwin said....
The Capitol Police in a separate statement Thursday said that its officer were attacked with metal pipes and chemical irritants while trying to defend the Capitol.
Later Thursday, officials announced that officer Brian D Sicknick died of injuries sustained in the riots. The death brings the number of fatalities caused by the riots to five....

Trump supporters who stormed U.S. Capitol could face sedition charges: prosecutor
Supporters of President Donald Trump who stormed the U.S. Capitol, breaking windows and stealing things, could face charges including sedition, insurrection and rioting, Washington, D.C.'s top federal prosecutor said on Thursday....

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The badly injured cop died. Couldn't have been the peaceful patriots.Vrede too wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:30 amShe was stopped.Ashli Babbitt: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know
Ashli Babbitt is a San Diego-area Air Force veteran who was identified as the woman who was shot and killed as people rushed the U.S. Capitol building in an unprecedented scene that included the vice president being rushed to safety, reports of gunfire and IEDs, and people roaming around the chambers of the U.S. Senate.
A graphic live stream video showed Babbitt lying almost motionless on the ground inside the Capitol building as supporters of President Donald Trump milled in a hallway and roamed around the chambers of the U.S. Senate. Babbitt’s husband told KUSI-TV in San Diego that she was a “strong supporter of President Trump, and was a great patriot to all who knew her,” in the words of the station.
Her Twitter page contained references to QAnon, which is a fringe extremist right wing conspiracy theory movement that believes pedophiles are embedded in high-ranking governmental positions. “Nothing will stop us….they can try and try and try but the storm is here and it is descending upon DC in less than 24 hours….dark to light!” she wrote. She had retweeted QAnon accounts and former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn.O Really's homey.... Graphic video captured the moment Babbitt was shot. A shot rings out as she tries to climb through a window into the Speaker’s lobby. That occurred as people, who had already breached the U.S. Capitol building, clustered in a hallway before the lobby door. Warning: The video is disturbing.
Warning, this video is graphic:
... According to KUSI, Babbitt was “a 14-year veteran, who served four tours with the US Air Force, and was a high level security official throughout her time in service.”
... According to her Facebook page, Babbitt was the “Owner/Operator at Fowlers Pool Service and Supply Inc.” She lived in San Diego, was from San Diego and was married.Lots more info and video at the link.... A man from New Jersey spoke to a journalist and said he was an eyewitness. He had a bloody hand. “We had stormed into the chambers inside, and there was a young lady who rushed through the windows. A number of police and Secret Service were saying get back, get down and get out of the way,” he said.
He continued, “She didn’t heed the call. As we kind of raced up to grab people and pull them back, they shot her in the neck. She fell back on me. She started to say she was fine, it’s cool. Then she started moving weird and blood was coming out of her neck and mouth and nose. I don’t know if she’s alive or dead anymore.”
... Babbitt filled her social media with references to Trump and QAnon.
“I will be in DC on the 6th! God bless America and WWG1WGA,” she wrote on Twitter, making a QAnon reference. She wrote that the California governor had instituted “commie rule.” She responded to a tweet criticizing Nancy Pelosi’s $600 stimulus check support, writing, “It is a smack to the gut for everyone of us…you think ppl are waking up yet?… THEY DONT GIVE A F*** ABOUT US…all they want is power and money …. we must unite!”
She retweeted Georgia lawyer Lin Wood. In December, she wrote, “COVID IS A F****** JOKE!” In September, she wrote, “Trump 2020 landslide! Let freedom ring!”
Another woman wrote on Twitter, “Serious question: Has the government started a war against it’s own people?” Babbitt responded on December 20, “We are not their ppl… they are owned-bought, paid for, enslaved… you can’t sell your soul to devil without a price. They chose, so have we. Dark to light! Let freedom ring and god bless America! God knows, god sees and he is incoming! Nothing can stop what is happening.” ...
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Of the 4 rioters, we know what happened to the insane Q-lady, and I think most people at first assumed old people heart attacks for the other three, but then the ages of 34, 51 and 55 made most question that.
One explained
In case you can't read the now removed pic. First time it was fuzzy and then it was nothing. May have to take a lesson from whack for loading pics from phone. Text below of the ammo-sexual.
"He stormed the Capitol yesterday with a taser concealed in his pants. He was in the process of stealing a portrait of Tip O'Neill when he accidentally & repeatedly discharged the taser. He tased himself in the balls until he suffered a fatal heart attack."
(So it was a heart attack)
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Not what Hoyer said. My post above was info seen last night on Brian Williams interview with General Honoré (Katrina fame).
Of course it sounds like crazy conspiracy talk, but so did ALEC, wars in CA and Laos, vast right wing conspiracy before they were exposed.
While hiding Rep. Hoyer called Maryland governor and asked for help. Gov said he had troops ready and would call sect defense for authorization.
No one in the administration would speak to him. After hours he finally accepted authorization from some top army guy. Both knew it wasn't right.
Even more crazy, but we have to consider that trump ...
Top DC NG guy pulled ammo and weapons from all NG and ordered no confrontations with protesters.
Trump: “We had the safest border in the history of our country - or at least recorded history. I guess maybe a thousand years ago it was even better.”
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Fuck, the assholes hekd a joyous Watch Party
https://youtu.be/jXM6h9elyTY
Could of been before the riot at the Fire Them Up event
Either way - scum one and all
https://youtu.be/jXM6h9elyTY
Could of been before the riot at the Fire Them Up event
Either way - scum one and all
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Not directly related, but the obvious undercutting of Capitol security strengthens my opinion that the great Russian hacking breach occurred because somebody gave them some passwords/access credentials. Sure, a few years ago that would have seemed like a wild conspiracy theory, but given this administration* it's pretty believable if not likely.
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billy.pilgrim wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:51 am... In case you can't read the now removed pic. First time it was fuzzy and then it was nothing....

Odd, he looks fit and smart.
Why would anyone want a portrait of Tip O'Neill? :confusion-scratchheadblue:

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There have been plenty of federal cybersecurity lapses, but this big one was the result of successful attacks on Microsoft, SolarWinds, and VMware software used by govt and industry.O Really wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:40 amNot directly related, but the obvious undercutting of Capitol security strengthens my opinion that the great Russian hacking breach occurred because somebody gave them some passwords/access credentials. Sure, a few years ago that would have seemed like a wild conspiracy theory, but given this administration* it's pretty believable if not likely.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Unit ... ata_breach
The feds' passwords/access credentials were irrelevant.
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Governor Hogan is about to speak on msnbc (or maybe just did - I just remembered that I was on pause for awhile) to explain why the WH stopped him from sending the NG.billy.pilgrim wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:26 amNot what Hoyer said. My post above was info seen last night on Brian Williams interview with General Honoré (Katrina fame).
Of course it sounds like crazy conspiracy talk, but so did ALEC, wars in CA and Laos, vast right wing conspiracy before they were exposed.
While hiding Rep. Hoyer called Maryland governor and asked for help. Gov said he had troops ready and would call sect defense for authorization.
No one in the administration would speak to him. After hours he finally accepted authorization from some top army guy. Both knew it wasn't right.
Even more crazy, but we have to consider that trump ...
Top DC NG guy pulled ammo and weapons from all NG and ordered no confrontations with protesters.
Trump: “We had the safest border in the history of our country - or at least recorded history. I guess maybe a thousand years ago it was even better.”
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So it's safe to take off my foil cap?Vrede too wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:25 pmThere have been plenty of federal cybersecurity lapses, but this big one was the result of successful attacks on Microsoft, SolarWinds, and VMware software used by govt and industry.O Really wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:40 amNot directly related, but the obvious undercutting of Capitol security strengthens my opinion that the great Russian hacking breach occurred because somebody gave them some passwords/access credentials. Sure, a few years ago that would have seemed like a wild conspiracy theory, but given this administration* it's pretty believable if not likely.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Unit ... ata_breach
The feds' passwords/access credentials were irrelevant.
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Who was Kevin Greeson? Alabama man who died in Capitol riots had a heart attack 'in the midst of the excitement'
DC Police Chief Robert Contee stated that Greeson was one of the three people who died from the result of 'medical emergencies' during the protests
Alabama man.
Found this:

DC Police Chief Robert Contee stated that Greeson was one of the three people who died from the result of 'medical emergencies' during the protests
Alabama man.

Found this:


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I'm probably okay with that. The Capitol Police apparently did not seek help from the DC PD, FBI, US Marshals, INS, CBP, other feds and other area PDs that are all trained in and routinely practice civilian law enforcement. Use of the military should only be as an absolute last resort.billy.pilgrim wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:26 am... Top DC NG guy pulled ammo and weapons from all NG and ordered no confrontations with protesters.
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Some U.S. Capitol rioters fired after internet detectives identify them
Help USA TODAY identify rioters who stormed the US Capitol
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