Massacre in Connecticut

[Mad American]

only idiots believe more guns are the answer

Most folks in the Santikos Mayan Palace theater in San Antonio would disagree with you.
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_ ... 122668.php

[Stinger]

The Aurora, Colorado shooter passed several theaters closer to his residence and showing the same movie before stopping at the Century Theater. The Century was the closest one that BANNED concealed carry on their premises....at all the others potential victims could have been armed.

Sure we know how to deal with danger....disarm the law abiding citizenry to make them easier victims.

Sorry, but that's just a lie. The Century Theater 16 was miles closer to Holmes's apartment at 1690 Paris Street than the AMC Southlands 16 was (and the AMC also does not allow weapons).

[mike]

Still, sure, guns are the answer and not the problem ... right ...

[Stinger]

Edit: Stinger says "that's just a lie" about the theater choice. If correct, Mad American is ignorant, but he was already foolish, anyhow. These armed guys make a better case for disarming them than we lefties ever could.

Holmes lived at 1690 Paris Street. There was a small, Latino theater that was slightly closer to his address. It was showing the Batman movie later. No known midnight showing. Firearm rules not shown. Century 16 was a couple of minutes farther away. Midnight show. Firearm rules posted. AMC Southlands 16, more than 20 minutes farther away. Midnight show. Firearms rules also posted.

100 round magazine sold to a headcase. No, we don't need to toughen up any laws.

[mike]

For me, as a Christian, if other Christians believe this was a signal by God to present some sort of message regarding American culture and kids, perhaps the culture on which they should focus is the intense American desire to own guns at all costs (even at the cost of children).

Listen to God, fellow Christians, get rid of guns. We don't need them.

Fun is where you find it ... go out and run a few miles if you want to blow off a little steam, you'll feel much more exhilarated and be much more healthy than shooting off a few rounds at your local gun range.

Have I mentioned I hate guns?

I can appreciate some have a desire to own and possess them (which I cannot understand) but I still hate 'em.

My gun nut friends think I cannot be truly safe if I don't own a gun. It's bull shit. I feel quite safe, thank you.

[Stinger]

Rent a box truck and go try to buy the same amount of ammonium nitrate fertilizer McVeigh did.

Bought 4 TONS in April and hauled it home in an old Chevrolet dump truck. Your point?

Only if you're a legitimate farmer. BATF monitors ammonium nitrate sales. (Kind of like the DEA monitors anhydrous.) Shock. Farmers can buy fertilizer. Your point?

[Leo Lyons]

Oh the abundance of Great Mouse Detectives! VD thinks he's found the gym, mike thinks I'm advocating great bodily harm to our
resident trash-mouther, and Stinger believes I'm not what I claim because I don't 'talk the lingo'.

Sorry VD, I'm not familiar with the Star Wars shack you've located; you Googled in vain. Mike, I don't want to kill Stinky, just see
who can kick who's ass. And Stinky; poor, poor Stinky; I can't be former DEA because I don't talk like DEA...I guess I couldn't be a
mechanic either because I don't speak in mechanical tones, nor do I speak in electrical tones; so nix an electrician. Given your reasoning for who/what someone miles away does/did for a living by their "lingo", that could only mean that you have revealed your occupation as a floor sweeper in a chicken hatchery; you always talk about 'chickenchit', SSDD, sniff tests....cool!

I'm sure ol'Stinky knows quite a few quiet places out in the country, but I'm no fool; I'm not about to follow some rabid cocksucker out into the woods; that's why I said "no weapons, out in the open". I'm not going to risk his pulling a gun on me and he having his way with my body; no sirree. (Sorry VD, you don't get to watch)
Who the owner of the gym is for me to know, and you to find out. Hint: it's not the one VD thinks it is. So...?

[Stinger]

Oh the abundance of Great Mouse Detectives! VD thinks he's found the gym, mike thinks I'm advocating great bodily harm to our
resident trash-mouther, and Stinger believes I'm not what I claim because I don't 'talk the lingo'.

Sorry VD, I'm not familiar with the Star Wars shack you've located; you Googled in vain. Mike, I don't want to kill Stinky, just see
who can kick who's ass. And Stinky; poor, poor Stinky; I can't be former DEA because I don't talk like DEA...I guess I couldn't be a
mechanic either because I don't speak in mechanical tones, nor do I speak in electrical tones; so nix an electrician. Given your reasoning for who/what someone miles away does/did for a living by their "lingo", that could only mean that you have revealed your occupation as a floor sweeper in a chicken hatchery; you always talk about 'chickenchit', SSDD, sniff tests....cool!

You can't be an ex-DEA agent because you're not -- you're too stupid, you don't have the qualifications, and you're too ignorant of the subject.

Of course, you could easily prove me wrong, . . . but you won't . . . because you can't. That's just the way you are. Chickenshit. Full of shit.

I'm sure ol'Stinky knows quite a few quiet places out in the country, but I'm no fool; I'm not about to follow some rabid cocksucker out into the woods; that's why I said "no weapons, out in the open". I'm not going to risk his pulling a gun on me and he having his way with my body; no sirree. (Sorry VD, you don't get to watch)
Who the owner of the gym is for me to know, and you to find out. Hint: it's not the one VD thinks it is. So...?


Of course it wouldn't be the only MMA gym on SW 34th St. Of course you can't man up and give the name of the gym. Of course you don't even know when you're coming to Gainesville. Of course you won't meet me anywhere. Of course you're all mouth.

Of course, you could easily prove me wrong by coming up with the name of the gym. But you won't. Too chickenshit. Too full of shit.

That's the Leo the Lyin's we all know.

Keep running. It's what you do best.

[rstrong]

Oh the abundance of Great Mouse Detectives! VD thinks he's found the gym, mike thinks I'm advocating great bodily harm to our
resident trash-mouther, and Stinger believes I'm not what I claim because I don't 'talk the lingo'.

Sorry VD, I'm not familiar with the Star Wars shack you've located; you Googled in vain. Mike, I don't want to kill Stinky, just see
who can kick who's ass. And Stinky; poor, poor Stinky; I can't be former DEA because I don't talk like DEA...I guess I couldn't be a
mechanic either because I don't speak in mechanical tones, nor do I speak in electrical tones; so nix an electrician. Given your reasoning for who/what someone miles away does/did for a living by their "lingo", that could only mean that you have revealed your occupation as a floor sweeper in a chicken hatchery; you always talk about 'chickenchit', SSDD, sniff tests....cool!

I'm sure ol'Stinky knows quite a few quiet places out in the country, but I'm no fool; I'm not about to follow some rabid cocksucker out into the woods; that's why I said "no weapons, out in the open". I'm not going to risk his pulling a gun on me and he having his way with my body; no sirree. (Sorry VD, you don't get to watch)
Who the owner of the gym is for me to know, and you to find out. Hint: it's not the one VD thinks it is. So...?

Dammit folks, YOU BROKE LEO LYONS!!!
Now all we're getting from him is incoherent babbling!

[rstrong]

"We think it is poor form for a politician or a special interest group to try to push a legislative agenda on the back of any tragedy."
- NRA, after 2008 Northern Illinois shootings

"Now is not the time to debate politics or discuss policy."
- NRA, after 2009 Binghampton massacre

"At this time, anything other than prayers for the victims and their families would be inappropriate."
- NRA, after 2011 shooting spree that wounded Gabrielle Giffords

"There will be an appropriate time down the road to engage in political and policy discussions."
- NRA, after 2012 Aurora massacre

"NRA will not have any comment."
- NRA, after 2012 Newtown massacre

Of course, when it's NOT immediately after a massacre: The NRA’s war on gun science

[bannination]

Jesse Ventura seems to think us gun owners can take on the entire U.S. military. I'm sorry, he made a piss poor point.

[rstrong]

Jesse Ventura seems to think us gun owners can take on the entire U.S. military. I'm sorry, he made a piss poor point.

Yup. The U.S. military just spent 10 years in Iraq learning how to deal with a well-armed, foreign-supplied insurgency.

[Wneglia]

...(Sorry (Vrede), you don't get to watch)

I do if Stinger gives me the details.

Who the owner of the gym is for me to know, and you to find out. Hint: it's not the one (Vrede) thinks it is. So...?

Could be, but it is "an MMA Gym" one block off "S.W. 34th" and I can't find a closer one. I may have it wrong, but if I were you and I realized that I'd just offered an acquaintance up to the internet and made myself a possible target of prank calling, I would post the same thing in an attempt at damage control.

You know you are really having a boring day when wasting time on this shit, but my guess is that Leo may be talking about either:

Team Synergy

Okito America

They are not MMA gyms per se, but are in the proximity of SW 34th

[Wneglia]

Since I've posted about rightwing Christians exploiting the massacre for their own hate filled agendas, here's another inappropriate reaction:

Rhode Island professor demands NRA leader’s ‘head on a stick’ after Sandy Hook

I'm guessing that the dead teachers and staff, if they could speak, would not use such language.

It's not just a kooky professor who is now backtracking and says he was speaking metaphorically, but there are many wackos suggesting killing not only NRA leaders, but all members of the NRA. I would not generalize and demonize all liberals as the author of this did.

I would agree that this discourse does nothing to find useful and logical solutions to gun violence.

[Stinger]

Oh the abundance of Great Mouse Detectives! VD thinks he's found the gym, mike thinks I'm advocating great bodily harm to our
resident trash-mouther, and Stinger believes I'm not what I claim because I don't 'talk the lingo'.

Sorry VD, I'm not familiar with the Star Wars shack you've located; you Googled in vain. Mike, I don't want to kill Stinky, just see
who can kick who's ass. And Stinky; poor, poor Stinky; I can't be former DEA because I don't talk like DEA...I guess I couldn't be a
mechanic either because I don't speak in mechanical tones, nor do I speak in electrical tones; so nix an electrician. Given your reasoning for who/what someone miles away does/did for a living by their "lingo", that could only mean that you have revealed your occupation as a floor sweeper in a chicken hatchery; you always talk about 'chickenchit', SSDD, sniff tests....cool!

I'm sure ol'Stinky knows quite a few quiet places out in the country, but I'm no fool; I'm not about to follow some rabid cocksucker out into the woods; that's why I said "no weapons, out in the open". I'm not going to risk his pulling a gun on me and he having his way with my body; no sirree. (Sorry VD, you don't get to watch)
Who the owner of the gym is for me to know, and you to find out. Hint: it's not the one VD thinks it is. So...?

Dammit folks, YOU BROKE LEO LYONS!!!
Now all we're getting from him is incoherent babbling!

What else is new.

His little world of fairy tales crumbled down around him. He thought that his little constructs gave him some sort of credibility and legitimacy.

That's what he gets for thinking. No one ever believed his crap. The fact that he imagined that he had someone fooled says a great deal about his judgment.

[bannination]

[Stinger]

...(Sorry (Vrede), you don't get to watch)

I do if Stinger gives me the details.

Who the owner of the gym is for me to know, and you to find out. Hint: it's not the one (Vrede) thinks it is. So...?

Could be, but it is "an MMA Gym" one block off "S.W. 34th" and I can't find a closer one. I may have it wrong, but if I were you and I realized that I'd just offered an acquaintance up to the internet and made myself a possible target of prank calling, I would post the same thing in an attempt at damage control.

More likely there was never any gym on SW 34th St. There was never any trip to Gainesville. Consider the source.

There will be no information forthcoming about dates or places. All that will be forthcoming will be more excuses and attempts to blame his failures on everyone else. Consider the source.

And there will never be another explanation for the sheriff's assault vehicle debacle, either. Consider the source.

[neoplacebo]

He might be undercover and incommunicado....radio silence, that sort of thing. More likely somebody hit him in the head with a shovel.

[Leo Lyons]

More likely there was never any gym on SW 34th St. There was never any trip to Gainesville. Consider the source.

He might be undercover and incommunicado....radio silence, that sort of thing. More likely somebody hit him in the head with a shovel.

I think because he posed as a gay DEA agent for so long in order to get the good stuff - and got enough of the good stuff, both kinds (NTTAWWT) - he's now a little confused and is overcompensating.

You guys are a riot. I said the gym was "off" 34th and you Google detectives still didn't get it right. I'm not telling the owner's name because you'll be calling and pleading with him/her not to allow us to use it.

As to radio silence, unlike you guys, I don't spend every waking hour hunched over my keyboard waiting for someone to post just so I can badmouth them in order to impress the other liberals; ain't my forte'. No shovels involved, but I was shot once long ago.

No, I didn't pose as a gay agent, because a homosexual is the lowest form of scum to slime it's way across the ground, followed by drug dealers/users, and then followed by those who advocate legalizing drugs. Bad-mouthing someone in gay overtones, to me, is the lowest of insults.

There once was this faggot dealer in Flagstaff that prided himself on the number of gun-toting pretty boys that he kept in his stable. That was the most sickening individual to ever drop out of a buzzards ass. I was part of a team that finally got enough on him to bust his ass wide open and put him away for the most part of his life. So yes, Vrede, I "profited from drugs" in that sense as I was on the clock the day he got busted, and I was on the clock the day they sent his nasty ass to the federal pen. I also "profited"
by helping to remove a very dangerous individual from society.

Now, Stinger; whether you believe any that or not doesn't faze me one bit. I was anonymous on and off duty; never out to make a name for myself or desiring to see my face on the front page. I did my job and was proud to do it.

When I first came on the BRN scene, I began reading threads from page one, but I didn't post for quite some time because I found no interest in the political pizzing back and forth that I constantly saw in the forums. I was, however interested in law enforcement goings on and those were the threads I read mostly. I remember the Charity Worley case, the HCSO cover-up involving the mentally handicapped woman with the lighter, (one of my colleagues shot and wounded a man aiming a lighter that looked like a gun), and I read the post about the assault vehicle which piqued my interest, so I posted on it. You immediately assailed me as an impostor, posing as the one who posted the comments because the original thread was pages and pages back. Because the way I 'syntaxed' my writing, according to you, was not the typical law enforcement jargon. Sorry, but I don't write about 'perps', heaters, johns, druggies, targets, etc.

I am what I say. I have a temper and I can be a jerk, and for that I apoligize to you, neo, and Vrede and anyone else I have called names. My inviting you to fight was childish (I do know the gym owner in question) and I am ashamed of it.

Now Stinger, in reading your replies to other posters that are opposite of your political persuasion: I still feel that you are an angry, bitter or something, self-centered person. You really ought to calm down. I think you could be a pretty good ol Joe.

Whether you believe me or not makes no difference to me; you're entitled to your opinions.

[Stinger]

More likely there was never any gym on SW 34th St. There was never any trip to Gainesville. Consider the source.

You guys are a riot. I said the gym was "off" 34th and you Google detectives still didn't get it right. I'm not telling the owner's name because you'll be calling and pleading with him/her not to allow us to use it.

Wow. They got every gym that's "off" SW 34th Street, and it's still not your gym.

How convenient. I'm supposed to meet you at a mystery gym, but you can't tell me the name of the gym because everyone would call the owner and plead with him not to allow us to use it.

That's funny. Did you see anyone pleading for us not to use it. I thought people were asking for video. I thought people were asking for details.

It would be kind of hard to meet you at a gym when you "can't" seem to come up with a name. Or a gym.

How convenient. And we're the riots.

I guess that if I can't find the mystery gym on the mystery date, I'll be the coward.

Now, Stinger; whether you believe any that or not doesn't faze me one bit. I was anonymous on and off duty; never out to make a name for myself or desiring to see my face on the front page. I did my job and was proud to do it.

How convenient. No field offices. No supervisors. No coworkers. No nothing.

When I first came on the BRN scene, I began reading threads from page one, but I didn't post for quite some time because I found no interest in the political pizzing back and forth that I constantly saw in the forums. I was, however interested in law enforcement goings on and those were the threads I read mostly. I remember the Charity Worley case, the HCSO cover-up involving the mentally handicapped woman with the lighter, (one of my colleagues shot and wounded a man aiming a lighter that looked like a gun), and I read the post about the assault vehicle which piqued my interest, so I posted on it. You immediately assailed me as an impostor, posing as the one who posted the comments because the original thread was pages and pages back. Because the way I 'syntaxed' my writing, according to you, was not the typical law enforcement jargon. Sorry, but I don't write about 'perps', heaters, johns, druggies, targets, etc.

Aw, what's the matter? The last time you tried to explain how you stumbled on Mister X's assault vehicle thread -- from 4 months, scores of pages, a thousand threads earlier -- you said you used the search engine. Just searched you up an assault vehicle.

Now you began reading threads from page one? Back through over 4 months, scores of pages, and a thousand threads? And you don't spend all day hunched over the keyboard?

Now Stinger, in reading your replies to other posters that are opposite of your political persuasion:

Political persuasion has nothing to do with it. Chugging Kool Aid, posting make believe as fact, failing to post support when asked, cutting and running, willful ignorance, being illogical, irrational, or just plain stupid, . . . that's what does it.

When I first came to BRN, I was polite to everyone. When people like Butt Ugly, Defective Thong, and Soupy Sales came over and started trying to ridicule me with their notions that their unsourced Kool Aid sound bites somehow trumped well-documented fact, I dished it right back to them.

When someone resorts to outright, bald-faced lying, there's no need to treat them like adults.

I still feel that you are an angry, bitter or something, self-centered person.

Gee, that's funny. No one who knows me thinks that. Funniest guy on the scene. Always doing something for others.

You really ought to calm down. I think you could be a pretty good ol Joe.

I can be. I often work with inner-city youth. There, I have to deal with ignorance and stupidity and dishonesty in others. Comes with the territory. They're kids. They have disadvantage backgrounds. It's not all their fault.

I come here for a break, and there are adults doing the same things. They're adults. They're not from disadvantaged backgrounds. It is their fault.

There are no rules that say I need suffer fools or liars gladly in my spare time.