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Donald And Melania Trump Quietly Received COVID-19 Vaccine In January: Reports

Interesting given that he suggested he was immune after surviving the infection.
... Other political leaders have publicized their own vaccinations as a way to encourage all Americans to sign up for the shot when their turn comes. Mass vaccination is the only thing that will get the country out of the coronavirus pandemic, Dr. Rochelle Walensky, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said Monday.

Donald Trump’s approach contrasts, in particular, with those of President Joe Biden and other living former presidents who allowed their shots to be broadcast, saying they wanted to promote trust in the process.

The news broke a day after Trump said at the annual Conservative Political Action Conference that “everybody” should get the coronavirus vaccine ― an idea he’s skirted around in the past.
Okay, but he should have spoken up in Jan since:
Republicans tend to be more skeptical of the vaccine, according to Civiqs polling, making encouragement from Trump and other right-wing public figures important in the effort to vaccinate the country. Only 33% of unvaccinated Republicans said they planned to get a vaccine when it became available to them, compared to 70% of unvaccinated Democrats.

Many of Trump’s fans, including those at far-right media outlets such as Newsmax, support baseless conspiracy theories about the vaccine, including the false claim that it’s a system for mind control. On Fox News, host Tucker Carlson proclaimed the mere idea of a mandatory vaccination program to be “a legitimate crisis,” even though the Biden administration is not calling for one.
Yep, he's thrown his pitiful wingnutty Trumpettes under the bus, again.
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They love being victims and beg trump to validate their victim status as often as possible. Fucking morons.

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They love being victims and beg trump to validate their victim status as often as possible. Fucking morons.
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Vrede too wrote:
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neoplacebo wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:17 pm
They love being victims and beg trump to validate their victim status as often as possible. Fucking morons.
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:lol: He still cons them for money; they still give it. Victimism is rampant among wingnuts and is a very powerful adhesive for those who are rattled, triggered, nervous, crazy, or just along for the whiff of stink it all reeks of.

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Senator Ron Johnson. :lol: The lap dog of lap dogs. Every time I see him on video I imagine him in a Nazi SS uniform.
:thumbup: Easy to do, one throwing childish tantrums.
Republican Sen. Ron Johnson (WI) forces Senate to read all 628 pages of Biden's COVID bill aloud

... Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., said Johnson's move would "accomplish little more than a few sore throats for the Senate clerks who work very hard day in, day out to help the Senate function."

And Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., told reporters, "I'm not sitting here for reading the bill." His Republican colleague had "every right" to request the reading, but "I don't think it particularly moves the ball forward," Graham said, citing the later amendment process as a more productive use of time to showcase Republican disagreements with the legislation.

As the clerk began reading the bill Thursday afternoon, Johnson was the only Republican senator in the chamber. He sat watching the clerk, his blue face mask resting on his desk....

After the clerk started reading the bill, Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., got up from his seat and said to a colleague, "good thing we have time during a national emergency to do this.” ...
What a "johnson" Johnson is!
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Tubby has 23 amendments to add. Each one will get 30 minutes discussion time. Other repugs will add more.

Drag it out and kill it.

Somewhat interesting that the dems don't use these tactics when they are the minority.
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(Article copied below in case NYT gives you trouble)

Bad News Bias
"The U.S. media is offering a different picture of Covid-19 from science journals or the international media, a study finds."

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/24/brie ... eneca.html
Bruce Sacerdote, an economics professor at Dartmouth College, noticed something last year about the Covid-19 television coverage that he was watching on CNN and PBS. It almost always seemed negative, regardless of what was he seeing in the data or hearing from scientists he knew.

When Covid cases were rising in the U.S., the news coverage emphasized the increase. When cases were falling, the coverage instead focused on those places where cases were rising. And when vaccine research began showing positive results, the coverage downplayed it, as far as Sacerdote could tell.

But he was not sure whether his perception was correct. To check, he began working with two other researchers, building a database of Covid coverage from every major network, CNN, Fox News, Politico, The New York Times and hundreds of other sources, in the U.S. and overseas. The researchers then analyzed it with a social-science technique that classifies language as positive, neutral or negative.

The results showed that Sacerdote’s instinct had been right — and not just because the pandemic has been mostly a grim story.

The U.S. media is an outlier
The coverage by U.S. publications with a national audience has been much more negative than coverage by any other source that the researchers analyzed, including scientific journals, major international publications and regional U.S. media. “The most well-read U.S. media are outliers in terms of their negativity,” Molly Cook, a co-author of the study, told me.

Dig deeper into the moment.

About 87 percent of Covid coverage in national U.S. media last year was negative. The share was 51 percent in international media, 53 percent in U.S. regional media and 64 percent in scientific journals.

Notably, the coverage was negative in both U.S. media outlets with liberal audiences (like MSNBC) and those with conservative audiences (like Fox News).

Sacerdote is careful to emphasize that he does not think journalists usually report falsehoods. The issue is which facts they emphasize. Still, the new study — which the National Bureau of Economic Research has published as a working paper, titled, “Why is all Covid-19 news bad news?” — calls for some self-reflection from those of us in the media.

If we’re constantly telling a negative story, we are not giving our audience the most accurate portrait of reality. We are shading it. We are doing a good job telling you why Covid cases are rising in some places and how the vaccines are imperfect — but not such a good job explaining why cases are falling elsewhere or how the vaccines save lives. Perhaps most important, we are not being clear about which Covid developments are truly alarming.

As Ranjan Sehgal, another co-author, told me, “The media is painting a picture that is a little bit different from what the scientists are saying.”

Why the bad-news bias?
The researchers say they are not sure what explains their findings, but they do have a leading contender: The U.S. media is giving the audience what it wants.

When the researchers examined which stories were the most read or the most shared on Facebook, they tended to be the most negative stories. To put it another way, the stories that people choose to read skew even more negative than the stories that media organizations choose to publish. “Human beings, particularly consumers of major media, like negativity in their stories,” Sacerdote said. “We think the major media are responding to consumer demand.”

That idea is consistent with the patterns in the data, Sacerdote added: It makes sense that national publications have better instincts about reaching a large audience than, say, science journals. And overseas, some of the most influential English-language media organizations — like the BBC — have long received government funding, potentially making them less focused on consumer demand.

All of that sounds plausible to me, but I don’t think it is the full explanation. I have worked in media for nearly three decades, and I think you might be surprised by how little time journalists spend talking about audience size. We care about it, obviously, but most journalists I know care much more about other factors, like doing work that has an impact.

In the modern era of journalism — dating roughly to the Vietnam War and Watergate — we tend to equate impact with asking tough questions and exposing problems. There are some good reasons for that. We are inundated by politicians, business executives, movie stars and others trying to portray themselves in the best light. Our job is to cut through the self-promotion and find the truth. If we don’t tell you the bad news, you may never hear it.

Sometimes, though, our healthy skepticism can turn into reflexive cynicism, and we end up telling something less than the complete story. I am grateful to Sacerdote, Cook and Sehgal for doing to us journalists what we normally do to others — holding up a mirror to our work and giving us a chance to do better.

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Bad News Bias
"The U.S. media is offering a different picture of Covid-19 from science journals or the international media, a study finds."

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/24/brie ... eneca.html
... Why the bad-news bias?

The researchers say they are not sure what explains their findings, but they do have a leading contender: The U.S. media is giving the audience what it wants.

When the researchers examined which stories were the most read or the most shared on Facebook, they tended to be the most negative stories. To put it another way, the stories that people choose to read skew even more negative than the stories that media organizations choose to publish. “Human beings, particularly consumers of major media, like negativity in their stories,” Sacerdote said. “We think the major media are responding to consumer demand.”

That idea is consistent with the patterns in the data, Sacerdote added: It makes sense that national publications have better instincts about reaching a large audience than, say, science journals. And overseas, some of the most influential English-language media organizations — like the BBC — have long received government funding, potentially making them less focused on consumer demand....
Isn't this true for all US reporting - crime, disasters, economy, politics, etc? I'd be interested in whether CV-19 reporting is an outlier from that. We are a twisted and fearful nation.
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"If it bleeds, it leads."

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Perhaps it's more a case of US media in general being for-profit enterprises, so stories are somewhat sensationalized in order to get more eyeballs and sell more soap (or whatever). When one story has run its course, and cannot be made any more notable by inflation, the media moves onto the next Big Thing. It's one reason why I tend to cite BBC stories a fair amount. They are not advertisement driven, although they do often have that Oh So British point of view. NPR is another good resource, although their coverage tends to be a bit on the bland side.

What makes the covid stories in the USA more and more out of line is that the story now has lasted more than a year, so the newswriters/editors are a bit desperate, I suppose, to find ever more titillating content where it's not so much any more.

Along that vein, I hope I'm not the only one who is sick and tired of the medical advertisements on the national news programs. It's all these weird names for new medications, like Gobbledegookimlab, followed by a long list of what sound to be very serious side effects, and then a bright and cheery suggestion to "ask your doctor". Some of them might actually work, but there's got to be a better way to move product than these very annoying ads. My solution is to hit the mute button. Typically the first 10 minutes or so of a national news program is actual news. Then five minutes of scary new medications, then five minutes of what passes for news, then more ads, a break where there's a teaser for the next Big News item, another five minutes of medical ads, and the 30 minutes is all gone. My other solution is to get my TV news from NPR, except that Judy Woodruff is such a downer. LOL.

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News was once a money loser and was pretty good. Then came reagan, the end to the Fairness Doctrine, fox News, and the entertainment news ratings game.
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This Island Nation (Papua New Guinea) Had Zero COVID Cases for Months. Now It's Overwhelmed.

That sucks. I was there 20 years ago - it's extremely poor, healthcare is often primitive and many communities are uber-remote. Makes me feel a little guilty about getting my vaccine today.
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Indiana nurse allegedly removed COVID-19 patient's oxygen

Sad. Sounds like the LPN was technically wrong, but I think that the Clark County Prosecutor and Indiana Attorney General could find something better to do with their time and the people's money.
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Does the U.S. really need 1.2 billion COVID vaccine doses when poorer countries barely have any?

:( Data-laden article including interactive graphic, too much so to choose what to excerpt. It's not overly long.
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Does the U.S. really need 1.2 billion COVID vaccine doses when poorer countries barely have any?

:( Data-laden article including interactive graphic, too much so to choose what to excerpt. It's not overly long.
Good article, cool map.

Bottom line. Cons are gonna cry. Fuck em.
The sooner rich countries like the U.S. use their abundant supply to vaccinate their own people, the sooner they can spread the surplus around. And the sooner they can do that, the sooner the COVID-19 crisis can end — not just for the wealthy, fortunate few, but for everyone, everywhere.
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... Bottom line. Cons are gonna cry. Fuck em.
For example, we could massively benefit America in the long run by unconditionally vaccinating adversaries like Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea, etc, along with our friends.
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... Bottom line. Cons are gonna cry. Fuck em.
For example, we could massively benefit America in the long run by unconditionally vaccinating adversaries like Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea, etc, along with our friends.
Not to mention, you know humanitarian stuff.
Such as it's the right thing to do.

99% of the citizens of those countries have done nothing to us.
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Not to mention, you know humanitarian stuff.
Such as it's the right thing to do.

99% of the citizens of those countries have done nothing to us.
. . . and we mostly deserve what the other 1% have done.
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Vrede too wrote:
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Not to mention, you know humanitarian stuff.
Such as it's the right thing to do.

99% of the citizens of those countries have done nothing to us.
. . . and we mostly deserve what the other 1% have done.
Shit, at this point the US can't do much of anything in a foreign country without whatever it is immediately being considered some sort of capitalist, expansionist, colonialist, or exploitative endeavor. We have a clear century of history to illustrate this to us and it can be seen in the current plague of trumpers and trumpism. We fucked ourselves and damn near everybody else.

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New York's version of app-based vaccine passport. Pretty cool, if it works.
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/pap ... 18610.html

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