COVIDiots

[GoCubsGo]

Guess I dropped this one in the wrong thread. But maybe there is no wrong answer.

Say it ain't so!

Coronavirus-Denier Ted Nugent Tests Positive For COVID-19: 'I Thought I Was Dying'

[O Really]

Too bad he was wrong.

[Vrede too]

Too bad he was wrong.

His music career and any other positive contribution to society died decades ago.

Wisconsin Republican Sen. Ron Johnson the johnson is at it, again:

Sen. Ron Johnson Says He Sees 'No Reason' For COVID-19 Mass Vaccination

“Why is this big push to make sure everyone gets a vaccine?” Johnson said in an appearance on conservative talk radio host Vicki McKenna’s show this week, adding that he was “highly suspicious” of the effort to mass vaccinate the general public....

“If you have a vaccine, quite honestly, what do you care if your neighbor has one or not?” Johnson asked. He also questioned the efficacy of the vaccines themselves, saying they were not “fully approved” — while also arguing that not everyone needed to receive one because they are so effective....

More than 200 million vaccine doses have been administered in the United States so far, and more than half of adult Americans have received at least one dose. Among Americans over 65, more than 80% have had at least one shot.

The Biden administration is aiming to get 80% of adult Americans vaccinated by summer. As new, more-contagious variants of the disease develop, the level of herd immunity needed to return to a pre-pandemic way of life has increased, according to the nation’s top scientists. More than 570,000 Americans have died of COVID-19, and case numbers remain high....

Johnson has explicitly rejected the scientific consensus on COVID-19. He said he wouldn’t get the vaccine because he already recovered from the disease in October. However, the CDC has said there is not enough data to know how long immunity lasts after contracting it.

He has previously said that the country had “grossly overreacted” to the pandemic, and repeatedly raised fringe and contrarian theories and conspiracies about the disease and treatments.

The Wisconsin Republican — who is up for reelection in 2022 but has not yet announced whether he’ll be running — is also bucking his party leadership’s messaging on the vaccine. In late March, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell specifically encouraged Republican men, who have some of the highest rates of vaccine hesitancy, to get the shot.

“I can say, as a Republican man, as soon as it was my turn, I took the vaccine. I would encourage all Republican men to do that,” McConnell said.

The Wisconsin Senate race will be one of the country’s most watched next year. In 2018, voters elected Democrats statewide in 2018, and the state flipped blue for Joe Biden. With a Senate seat now also in the balance, Democratic groups have already jumped on Johnson’s comments. American Bridge, the liberal Super PAC that spent more than $84 million during the 2020 presidential election cycle, blasted out Johnson’s comments to its email list.

“More people will get COVID and die due to Ron Johnson’s comments yesterday,” said American Bridge 21st Century spokesperson Zach Hudson. “He’s a disgrace and Wisconsin can’t get rid of him soon enough.”

:confusion-scratchheadblue:

[Vrede too]

Meet the Anti-Mask Michigan ‘Scientist’ Stoking the Fourth Wave



We need a crowded maskless prison to put these homicidal COVIDiots in.

[Vrede too]

Tucker Carlson called mask-wearing 'repulsive' and said parents forcing their children to wear masks in public should be reported for 'child abuse'

It would be nice if inciting folks to report nonexistent crimes is itself a crime.

[O Really]

Tucker Carlson called mask-wearing 'repulsive' and said parents forcing their children to wear masks in public should be reported for 'child abuse'

It would be nice if inciting folks to report nonexistent crimes is itself a crime.

Might be. Certainly false reporting or some milder version of "swatting" is - at least a misdemeanor. Can you imagine-
"911 what's your emergency?"
"Somebody's been shot!"
"OK, we'll send police immediately." ...

"911 what's your emergency?" "Shooting at high school!" "OK, we'll send police." ...

"911 what's your emergency?" "There's a kid wearing a face mask"
"OK, we'll - wait, what? "What kind of mask"?
"Just a regular suffocating cloth mask."
"Umm, Karen - that's a good thing."
"Communist!"

[O Really]

I sometimes consider the difference in how (mostly) Trump-driven people are responding the world-wide pandemic and how Americans in the past have responded to national emergencies. What would have happened to a "Tucker Carlson" in 1943 if he had urged his listeners to ignore ration coupons or to keep their lights on during a blackout because the damgummit can't tell you when to run your own electricity. Or maybe he'd demand that auto manufacturers keep building cars and refuse the tyrannical and over-reaching demand of an oppressive government to make war vehicles. Or maybe he'd tell Rosie to exercise her "freedom" to refuse to rivet.

This guy is a dangerous fool. Not so much because of what he himself says, but because so many people are willing to go along with his babbling.

[neoplacebo]

I sometimes consider the difference in how (mostly) Trump-driven people are responding the world-wide pandemic and how Americans in the past have responded to national emergencies. What would have happened to a "Tucker Carlson" in 1943 if he had urged his listeners to ignore ration coupons or to keep their lights on during a blackout because the damgummit can't tell you when to run your own electricity. Or maybe he'd demand that auto manufacturers keep building cars and refuse the tyrannical and over-reaching demand of an oppressive government to make war vehicles. Or maybe he'd tell Rosie to exercise her "freedom" to refuse to rivet.

This guy is a dangerous fool. Not so much because of what he himself says, but because so many people are willing to go along with his babbling.

I bet if he did any of that shit in 1943 he'd have gotten his ass kicked on a daily basis by Americans.

[Vrede too]

Might be. Certainly false reporting or some milder version of "swatting" is - at least a misdemeanor. Can you imagine-
"911 what's your emergency?"
"Somebody's been shot!"
"OK, we'll send police immediately." ...

"911 what's your emergency?" "Shooting at high school!" "OK, we'll send police." ...

"911 what's your emergency?" "There's a kid wearing a face mask"
"OK, we'll - wait, what? "What kind of mask"?
"Just a regular suffocating cloth mask."
"Umm, Karen - that's a good thing."
"Communist!"

Alaska senator drives, takes ferry after airline suspension

Alaska state Sen. Lora Reinbold drove through part of Canada and took a ferry to reach the state's capital over the weekend after Alaska Airlines suspended her from its flights for what it called her “continued refusal to comply with employee instruction regarding the current mask policy.” ...

[Vrede too]

I sometimes consider the difference in how (mostly) Trump-driven people are responding the world-wide pandemic and how Americans in the past have responded to national emergencies. What would have happened to a "Tucker Carlson" in 1943 if he had urged his listeners to ignore ration coupons or to keep their lights on during a blackout because the damgummit can't tell you when to run your own electricity. Or maybe he'd demand that auto manufacturers keep building cars and refuse the tyrannical and over-reaching demand of an oppressive government to make war vehicles. Or maybe he'd tell Rosie to exercise her "freedom" to refuse to rivet.

This guy is a dangerous fool. Not so much because of what he himself says, but because so many people are willing to go along with his babbling.

I bet if he did any of that shit in 1943 he'd have gotten his ass kicked on a daily basis by Americans.

Speaking of a dangerous fool that should get his ass kicked on a daily basis . . .

DeSantis signs bill banning ‘vaccine passports,’ order canceling local COVID rules

Declaring Florida’s COVID-19 emergency over, Gov. Ron DeSantis on Monday signed an executive order invalidating all remaining local emergency COVID orders and signed a bill into law that bars businesses, schools and government entities across Florida from asking anyone to provide proof of a COVID-19 vaccination.

Trumpist Repugs hate science, medicine, business freedom and local control.

... On Sunday, Florida registered 3,841 new COVID-19 cases, 31 deaths and 6.3 million fully vaccinated people, about 30% of the population. Florida ranks 38th in vaccine rates in the nation.

That sucks.

... Opponents also warned the bill could lead to First Amendment challenges because it strips private businesses and educational institutions of their ability to control their right to associate with unvaccinated people, which under law are not a protected class.

“I don’t know many people who are going to get on a cruise if they don’t have the security of knowing that the other people on that cruise with them, and in that close environment with them, have also been vaccinated,’’ warned Rep. Omari Hardy, a West Palm Beach Democrat, during House debate last week....

COVIDiots shun logic and the Constitution.

[O Really]

Well, he just chased the cruise operators out of Florida. Part of their pitch to get CDC approval to sail is the vax verification.

[GoCubsGo]

I sometimes consider the difference in how (mostly) Trump-driven people are responding the world-wide pandemic and how Americans in the past have responded to national emergencies. What would have happened to a "Tucker Carlson" in 1943 if he had urged his listeners to ignore ration coupons or to keep their lights on during a blackout because the damgummit can't tell you when to run your own electricity. Or maybe he'd demand that auto manufacturers keep building cars and refuse the tyrannical and over-reaching demand of an oppressive government to make war vehicles. Or maybe he'd tell Rosie to exercise her "freedom" to refuse to rivet.

This guy is a dangerous fool. Not so much because of what he himself says, but because so many people are willing to go along with his babbling.

They existed until December 7, with some big names attached including Charles Lindbergh and more.

They even had a catchy name.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_First_Committee

[O Really]

I sometimes consider the difference in how (mostly) Trump-driven people are responding the world-wide pandemic and how Americans in the past have responded to national emergencies. What would have happened to a "Tucker Carlson" in 1943 if he had urged his listeners to ignore ration coupons or to keep their lights on during a blackout because the damgummit can't tell you when to run your own electricity. Or maybe he'd demand that auto manufacturers keep building cars and refuse the tyrannical and over-reaching demand of an oppressive government to make war vehicles. Or maybe he'd tell Rosie to exercise her "freedom" to refuse to rivet.

This guy is a dangerous fool. Not so much because of what he himself says, but because so many people are willing to go along with his babbling.

They existed until December 7, with some big names attached including Charles Lindbergh and more.

They even had a catchy name.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_First_Committee

Yeah, but the AFC changed their tune once war was actually begun. It's past time for the RepuQ's to get over the politicization of a worldwide pandemic and do their share. As the AFC said:

We have been stepping closer to war for many months. Now it has come and we must meet it as united Americans regardless of our attitude in the past toward the policy our government has followed. Whether or not that policy has been wise, our country has been attacked by force of arms and by force of arms we must retaliate. Our own defenses and our own military position have already been neglected too long. We must now turn every effort to building the greatest and most efficient Army, Navy and Air Force in the world. When American soldiers go to war it must be with the best equipment that modern skill can design and that modern industry can build.

[Vrede too]

... It's past time for the RepuQ's to get over the politicization of a worldwide pandemic and do their share....

Good one.

He faked a coronavirus certificate to fly to Argentina, officials say. He was infected all along.

Just hours before he was set to board a flight home to Argentina on Saturday, Santiago Solans Portillo received some news that appeared to throw a wrench in his travel plans: His coronavirus test had come back positive, authorities say.

But when the 29-year-old arrived at the airport in Miami, he made no such disclosure to the American Airlines agents checking him in, instead presenting a medical certificate that said he was fit to fly.

It was only the following day, when he landed in Buenos Aires and health officials took his temperature, finding he had a fever of 101.3 degrees, that he made his confession: He probably had covid-19 - and should not have boarded the plane to begin with.

"Due to this irresponsible, selfish behavior, 200 people are at risk despite having done the right thing while traveling," Florencia Carignano, Argentina's top immigration official, told reporters this week....

After confessing his alleged ruse, authorities said, he was arrested and transported to a Buenos Aires sanitary hotel - one of several facilities that had been run by the city for travelers coming from abroad who were ordered to quarantine.

In a brief phone interview Tuesday with Clarín, the country's largest newspaper, Portillo said he was running a fever and was receiving medical treatment while in custody there.

Maybe he'll die.

... Carignano, the immigration official, said that Portillo could face between 3 and 15 years in prison under an Argentine law that bars people from knowingly exposing others to infectious diseases. She noted that his "complex judicial situation" would be compounded if any of his fellow passengers develop symptoms in the coming days.

... Carignano has also said that her agency would be sanctioning and fining American Airlines for allowing a sick person to board the flight, in violation of the country's coronavirus rules. The airline did not immediately respond to a request for comment from The Post.

Idk about that, depending on the quality of the fake.

[O Really]

I wonder what a "medical certificate that said he was fit to fly" is. It would not be: a vaccination card; or a covid test report, unless maybe he had had a negative report in the past and was able to change the date. Don't content creators "report" anymore?

[Vrede too]

I wonder what a "medical certificate that said he was fit to fly" is. It would not be: a vaccination card; or a covid test report, unless maybe he had had a negative report in the past and was able to change the date. Don't content creators "report" anymore?

The article is confusing or incomplete on that topic.

... It is unclear whether Portillo ever did get vaccinated. But Argentine authorities say that he received a medical certificate at some point on Saturday from a clinic in Hollywood, Fla., stating that he was in good health and able to travel internationally.

But in an interview with an Argentine radio station this week, Juan Manuel Dragani, a lawyer in Buenos Aires who represents that clinic, insisted that the certificate was not counterfeit or fraudulent and had been issued to the patient in accordance with all U.S. guidelines.

"There's a direct responsibility for the accused," Dragani said, noting that Portillo's only contact with the clinic had been through a telehealth appointment.

Still, at 5:15 p.m. on Saturday, Portillo received a PCR test stating he had tested positive for the coronavirus, authorities said. By midnight, he had boarded American Airlines flight AA921, and on Sunday morning, the plane - also carrying 258 other passengers and 12 crew members - landed in Argentina....

A certificate based solely on a telehealth contact? Maybe the clinic also needs to be charged by US authorities and/or sued by Argentina, American Airlines, the passengers and crew.

[O Really]

So in lieu of a negative covid test, the airline let him on with some trumpian-style "health certification"? He's still the major fault, since he did in fact board the plane knowing he was infected. But the airline would seem to stand for some blame, too.

[Vrede too]

So in lieu of a negative covid test, the airline let him on with some trumpian-style "health certification"? He's still the major fault, since he did in fact board the plane knowing he was infected. But the airline would seem to stand for some blame, too.

Could be, but we don't know what the "certificate" looked like or included, nor what verification standard the airlines are and should be held to. My CDC vaccine card and stickers would be easy to fake if I had some card stock and sticker paper to put in my printer. Are airlines, etc requiring CV-19 tests if one is fully vaccinated?

[O Really]

So in lieu of a negative covid test, the airline let him on with some trumpian-style "health certification"? He's still the major fault, since he did in fact board the plane knowing he was infected. But the airline would seem to stand for some blame, too.

Could be, but we don't know what the "certificate" looked like or included, nor what verification standard the airlines are and should be held to. My CDC vaccine card and stickers would be easy to fake if I had some card stock and sticker paper to put in my printer. Are airlines, etc requiring CV-19 tests if one is fully vaccinated?

I dunno what the airlines are requiring, but obviously something. American does offer some kind of "veri-fly" app that serves as a vax/test passport, but that wouldn't have applied in this case. I think they should make an example out of his ass.

[Vrede too]

Could be, but we don't know what the "certificate" looked like or included, nor what verification standard the airlines are and should be held to. My CDC vaccine card and stickers would be easy to fake if I had some card stock and sticker paper to put in my printer. Are airlines, etc requiring CV-19 tests if one is fully vaccinated?

I dunno what the airlines are requiring, but obviously something. American does offer some kind of "veri-fly" app that serves as a vax/test passport, but that wouldn't have applied in this case. I think they should make an example out of his ass.

Agreed, I'm just not sure that we have enough info to deem American Airlines and/or the clinic culpable. Stumbled on this:

California bar owner who sold fake COVID-19 vaccine cards for $20 to face felony charges, DA office says