Let's Have That Discussion about Guns

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Stinger wrote:Did anyone else catch Wayne Lapierre's disconnect-from-reality speech? I happened to be sitting in a local restaurant, munching on a bagel, and who should be on the big screen but old Wayne himself. He was not targeting rational people with his speech.

Sounded like the boy was genuinely interested in protecting his mill-per-year salary.

Crank up that cash cow. Push those fear buttons. Watch the money roll in. Rinse, lather, repeat.
Lapierre should be ashamed. Seriously.

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Partisan62 wrote:And on July 4, 1776, a country was created; disputation by the British notwithstanding.
In Partisan62's defence, he can claim this without a touch of hypocrisy. For most others here the country was created on September 3, 1783, the date that Great Britain recognized America's independence.

If US independence didn't require British acknowledgement, then it would seem logical that Confederate independence didn't require Union acknowledgement. A contention the Union vigorously disputed. This policy continues today. For example America won't recognize Taiwan's independence unless China does.

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Vrede wrote: Why not, might as well teach them fear early. Don't forget the community centers, parks and playgrounds, day cares, Sunday schools, after school programs, carnivals, etc. If it's good enough for El Salvador . . .
What the NRA has in store for America.

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Vrede wrote:
mike wrote:More guns is the answer?
Why not, might as well teach them fear early. Don't forget the community centers, parks and playgrounds, day cares, Sunday schools, after school programs, carnivals, etc. If it's good enough for El Salvador . . .
Don't forget theatres. And since gunshot sounds are normal in theatres, you can't rely on a guard standing by the popcorn stand. A multiplex will need to hire an armed guard for each theatre room.

More importantly, you'll need to make sure that they don't do a mass shooting of their own the 20th time they have to sit through a move like Adam Sandler's Jack and Jill. Or the 2nd for that matter.

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rstrong wrote:
Vrede wrote:
mike wrote:More guns is the answer?
Why not, might as well teach them fear early. Don't forget the community centers, parks and playgrounds, day cares, Sunday schools, after school programs, carnivals, etc. If it's good enough for El Salvador . . .
Don't forget theatres. And since gunshot sounds are normal in theatres, you can't rely on a guard standing by the popcorn stand. A multiplex will need to hire an armed guard for each theatre room.

More importantly, you'll need to make sure that they don't do a mass shooting of their own the 20th time they have to sit through a move like Adam Sandler's Jack and Jill. Or the 2nd for that matter.
But what if the shooter takes out the guard first. Then you sue the theater for failing to provide security.

Put bulletproof glass in front of the projector. Put a sniper in there with night-vision goggles.

As a backup, have the theater rigged with knockout gas.

Let's make going to the movies seem like being in the middle of a Halo game.

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Vrede wrote:
mike wrote:
Stinger wrote:Did anyone else catch Wayne Lapierre's disconnect-from-reality speech? I happened to be sitting in a local restaurant, munching on a bagel, and who should be on the big screen but old Wayne himself. He was not targeting rational people with his speech.

Sounded like the boy was genuinely interested in protecting his mill-per-year salary.

Crank up that cash cow. Push those fear buttons. Watch the money roll in. Rinse, lather, repeat.
Just snippets, I did see video of an old acquaintance (barely - 2 connects in 25 years), Medea Benjamin, getting hauled off.

Lapierre should be ashamed. Seriously.

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Why not, might as well teach them fear early. Don't forget the community centers, parks and playgrounds, day cares, Sunday schools, after school programs, carnivals, etc. If it's good enough for El Salvador . . .
what a piece of shit - but typical con - ignore the problem and demand huge government expenses, then sit back and skim off the profits
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Vrede wrote:Good point, guys. A brief search shows that there are around 100K public and over 30K private K-12 schools in America. Allowing for shift work, turnover, multiple officers in big schools and subs, that means 250K or more new gun sales that Lapierre and the NRA, who get huge contributions from the makers and sellers, are conveniently calling for . . . in the interest of the kids, of course. :roll:

Won't surprise me if it happens. Even if we cracked down harder on guns than any of us expect, we'll still have nearly 300M guns out there and tens of millions of parents with legitimate fears.

report on npr put the annual cost to taxpayer at around 10 billion
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Vrede wrote:Per year, forever. The NRA's unfunded mandate?

Oh, we'll need a guard on every school bus, too. Arming the driver won't work - taking her/him out first in a rush from the bushes as kids are boarding/de-boarding would be easy.

the right has always spent beyond their means but during the 80s they realized they could steal the wealth of generations to come and government has been a party for them ever since
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The 1999 Columbine High School shooting occurred DURING the Clinton Assault Weapons Ban (including magazine size restrictions)

Another way the liberal left is FOS. :---P

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Vrede wrote:Plus, if there is even any legislation at all it will be written by firearms experts with competing interests and I won't be one of them. It may or may not be somewhat similar to the pre-2004 law which had loopholes big enough to drive a howitzer through, and it won't do all that much for us in the short term.

:roll: They're all Ruger 10/22s.

#1 - Looks like it has a Tapco T6 OD Green stock, 22" Stainless Steel barrel, Weaver 10/22 "See Thru" rings, Bushnell 4-12x40 AO scope, Volquartsen bolt buffer, auto bolt release, extended mag release and target hammer and springs, a hand painted muzzle brake, a Shooters Ridge bi-pod and Steel Lips 25 round mag . . . but I'm just guessing. With the modifications it probably would have been banned before 2004.

#2 - No mods.

#3 - With the modifications it probably would have been banned before 2004.

Silly little irrelevant, "pedantic purist" tests are reminiscent of someone. Hmmm...
You win the prize.....actually two prizes. You get the question correct and prove that you can use google to search an image. However, you also prove the point. One of the most circulated, widely sold SPORTING small arms can be made to LOOK mean and like an "assault weapon" with after market accessories. Yet underneath all the synthetic stocks and parkerized finish it is still just a semi-automatic 22 long rifle, mostly used for squirrel and other small game hunting. By that logic you would call a woman a hooker simply because she puts on a short skirt and heels.

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Mad American wrote:You win the prize.....actually two prizes. You get the question correct and prove that you can use google to search an image. However, you also prove the point. One of the most circulated, widely sold SPORTING small arms can be made to LOOK mean and like an "assault weapon" with after market accessories. Yet underneath all the synthetic stocks and parkerized finish it is still just a semi-automatic 22 long rifle, mostly used for squirrel and other small game hunting. By that logic you would call a woman a hooker simply because she puts on a short skirt and heels.
We've been saying exactly that since you posted your little test. Nice to see that you finally figured it out.

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Mad American wrote:
The 1999 Columbine High School shooting occurred DURING the Clinton Assault Weapons Ban (including magazine size restrictions)

Another way the liberal left is FOS. :---P
And that's supposed to somehow negate the discrediting of Lapierre's solution?

Another way the extremist right is completely illogical.

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nascarfan88 always had a political themed logo and quote as his signature line on the old forum. Mad American is very clever to not have one, don't you think?

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neoplacebo wrote:nascarfan88 always had a political themed logo and quote as his signature line on the old forum. Mad American is very clever to not have one, don't you think?
Why do they have to hide? What are they so ashamed of?

Everyone on the left came over here with the exact same name. Everyone on the right came over here with different names except wneglia and MrB. Oh, yeah ... Pissant62. But then, he's not smart enough to be embarrassed or ashamed of anything.

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rstrong wrote:
Mad American wrote:You win the prize.....actually two prizes. You get the question correct and prove that you can use google to search an image. However, you also prove the point. One of the most circulated, widely sold SPORTING small arms can be made to LOOK mean and like an "assault weapon" with after market accessories. Yet underneath all the synthetic stocks and parkerized finish it is still just a semi-automatic 22 long rifle, mostly used for squirrel and other small game hunting. By that logic you would call a woman a hooker simply because she puts on a short skirt and heels.
We've been saying exactly that since you posted your little test. Nice to see that you finally figured it out.

Nice to know that you agree that all you and the gun control zealots have is a definition based in opinion on appearance. Again, it is the same as calling any woman a hooker simply because she adds heels and a short skirt.

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Stinger wrote:
Mad American wrote:
The 1999 Columbine High School shooting occurred DURING the Clinton Assault Weapons Ban (including magazine size restrictions)

Another way the liberal left is FOS. :---P
And that's supposed to somehow negate the discrediting of Lapierre's solution?

Another way the extremist right is completely illogical.
No! It simply proves that no matter what regulations are put in place they will have no effect on these types of incidents. Or put in a way that you might understand it....ask the parents of the Columbine victims how well that Clinton assault weapons ban worked for them.

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Vrede wrote:Why would anyone use a Steel Lips 25 round mag for "squirrel and other small game hunting" and is squirrel a big part of your diet?
Don't know why they would use it but my Mossberg 22 has a 15 round built in tube mag and that is what I use for squirrel hunting. Nice to know that you are afraid of the little 22 LR though. I guess you do go weak in the knees at the thoughts of any centerfire round. Finally, yes, I LOVE a good pot of squirrel dumplings on a cold winter day and I have a pretty large stock of the skinned out tree rats in my freezer as we speak.

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Mad American wrote:
Stinger wrote:
Mad American wrote:
The 1999 Columbine High School shooting occurred DURING the Clinton Assault Weapons Ban (including magazine size restrictions)

Another way the liberal left is FOS. :---P
And that's supposed to somehow negate the discrediting of Lapierre's solution?

Another way the extremist right is completely illogical.
No! It simply proves that no matter what regulations are put in place they will have no effect on these types of incidents. Or put in a way that you might understand it....ask the parents of the Columbine victims how well that Clinton assault weapons ban worked for them.
We were discussing Wayne Lapierre and his out-of-touch, delusional rant. You even quoted someone saying how FOS Lapierre was.

Then you come in babbling about Clinton-era regulations.

Logic much?

Or were you simply agreeing, as pointed out by the poster you quoted, that Lapierre's solution is no solution at all -- since Lapierre's solution failed to stop Columbine -- and that Lapierre really is FOS?

Nice of you to admit that.

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