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At least they're not sleeping in your bed.
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Grizzly bear kills bicyclist camping in western Montana

A grizzly bear attacked and killed a bicyclist who was camping in a small western Montana town early Tuesday, triggering an intensive search for the bruin by wildlife officials and law enforcement officers who planned to kill the animal, authorities said....
I know the place well. Sure, it's always a risk in the backcountry, but this is way scarier to me.

This is unusual because it's a black bear:

Teen sleeping in hammock at 12:30 a.m attacked by large bear in Great Smoky Mountains

She'll be okay.

In both cases food was supposedly properly stowed.
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Great Smoky Mtns is in my neighborhood. You guys don't have to worry; I've got things under control. The animals suspect I may make them talk.

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This is unusual because it's a black bear:

Teen sleeping in hammock at 12:30 a.m attacked by large bear in Great Smoky Mountains

She'll be okay.

In both cases food was supposedly properly stowed.
A fed bear is a dead bear. 😥
One larger, male bear entered the campsite while the rangers were present and repeatedly approached the area in spite of attempts to scare it from the site,” officials said.

“The bear was identified by the family as being the one responsible for the attack and rangers shot and killed it. Through forensic testing, wildlife biologists were able to confirm human blood on the euthanized bear.”
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Grizzly bear kills bicyclist camping in western Montana

A grizzly bear attacked and killed a bicyclist who was camping in a small western Montana town early Tuesday, triggering an intensive search for the bruin by wildlife officials and law enforcement officers who planned to kill the animal, authorities said....
I know the place well. Sure, it's always a risk in the backcountry, but this is way scarier to me.

... In both cases food was supposedly properly stowed.
Or not.
Bear pulls woman out of her tent, kills her in Montana

A grizzly bear pulled a woman from her tent in a small Montana town in the middle of the night and killed her before fellow campers could use bear spray to force the bruin out of the area, wildlife officials said Wednesday.

Leah Davis Lokan, 65, of Chico, California, was on a long-distance bicycling trip and had stopped in the western Montana town of Ovando when she was killed early Tuesday, said Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks officials as they provided more details about the attack.

Lokan was killed on the bear's second visit to the site where she and two fellow bicyclists were camping near the post office, officials said.

The approximately 400-pound (181 kilogram) grizzly first awakened the campers about 3 a.m., officials said. They took food out of their tents, secured it and went back to sleep, they said.

Surveillance video from a business in town showed the bear about a block from the post office about 15 minutes later, wildlife officials said.

About 4:15 a.m., the sheriff's office received a 911 call after two people in a tent near the victim’s were awakened by sounds of the attack, Powell County Sheriff Gavin Roselles said. They discharged their bear spray, and the bear ran away....
Food odors persist for hours or longer. The low in nearby Missoula was 55, there was no rain, and the wind speed was less than 5!
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They never should have gotten back in their tents, and never should have put food in them in the first place :x . Were they also riding at night wearing dark clothes and with no lights or reflectors?
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A fed bear is a dead bear. 😥
Given the time it’s taking to find the alleged culprit maybe some dead innocent bears, too. Thanks a lot, California tourists.
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Massive amount of stupid.
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Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:03 am
Massive amount of stupid.
Yep. They eventually trapped and killed at least one bear. I didn't see whether DNA confirmed that it was the culprit, but it was a heavy suspect by other indices.

Girl Meets Gull At New Jersey Amusement Park And Gets Smacked In The Face
“A bird flew on my face! A bird flew on my face! Oh my God!”




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MINE!!!!!!!

Meanwhile, on avian Twitter: "OMG, this girl just flew right into my face!"
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Bird Strike! At least she didn’t have to ditch in the Hudson.
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Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:03 am
Massive amount of stupid.
Yeah, food in tent is a big no-no. It was back in the 1970's, only more so now, probably.

There is also the problem that if a woman is menstruating, that also can attract a hungry bear.

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Yet more bear stupidity, a sexist fallacy Useless shared and got corrected on only 2 months ago:
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Yeah, food in tent is a big no-no. It was back in the 1970's, only more so now, probably.

There is also the problem that if a woman is menstruating, that also can attract a hungry bear.
The menstruation = bear attack theory was based on one incident and has been questioned since. It makes sense - a bear will smell humans, regardless, and menstruation doesn't suggest food.
Night of the Grizzlies

Night of the Grizzlies (1969) is a book by Jack Olsen which details events surrounding the night of August 13, 1967, when two young women were separately attacked and killed in Glacier National Park, Montana, by grizzly bears. Both women, Julie Helgeson, 19, of Albert Lea, Minnesota, and Michele Koons, 19, of San Diego, California, died of their injuries.

... One theory postulated the bears were attracted by odors associated with menstruation, and brochures were circulated to warn menstruating women from entering bear territory. No anecdotal evidence was provided to substantiate the theory, and a 1991 study demonstrated that "[n]o bear showed appreciable interest in menstrual odors regardless of the bear's age, sex, reproductive status, or the time of year." ...
Plus, the woman was 64, dufus. Pay attention, city boy.
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Vrede too wrote:
Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:31 pm
GoCubsGo wrote:
Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:03 am
Massive amount of stupid.
Yep. They eventually trapped and killed at least one bear. I didn't see whether DNA confirmed that it was the culprit, but it was a heavy suspect by other indices.

Girl Meets Gull At New Jersey Amusement Park And Gets Smacked In The Face
“A bird flew on my face! A bird flew on my face! Oh my God!”




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MINE!!!!!!!

Meanwhile, on avian Twitter: "OMG, this girl just flew right into my face!"
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Bird Strike! At least she didn’t have to ditch in the Hudson.
I can't believe that I can't find a video of tourists feeding (or even trying to eat) cheetos, doritos or any other orange food. It has always been great fun to watch them as they excitedly toss a few to a seagull or two, only to immediately find 20 or more gulls aggressively determined to have them all.
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Sat Jul 24, 2021 11:24 am
I can't believe that I can't find a video of tourists feeding (or even trying to eat) cheetos, doritos or any other orange food. It has always been great fun to watch them as they excitedly toss a few to a seagull or two, only to immediately find 20 or more gulls aggressively determined to have them all.
Where I went to junior high school was a gathering place for seagulls. They'd dive in and snatch food from kids eating in the school yard. Or, worse, they'd let loose with crap expertly aimed at the kids' heads.

Good times.

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billy.pilgrim wrote:
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I can't believe that I can't find a video of tourists feeding (or even trying to eat) cheetos, doritos or any other orange food. It has always been great fun to watch them as they excitedly toss a few to a seagull or two, only to immediately find 20 or more gulls aggressively determined to have them all.
Why are you looking for orange food gull/tourist vids?

In a Japanese port hawks occupied the niche that gulls do here. Same behavior, but still way cooler. A crewmate and I came across a couple of teens having a hilarious time tossing pieces of raw chicken to the hawks that would catch the chicken in flight. They let us toss a few pieces. Fun.
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A brown bear attacked a group of campers, eating one and forcing the others to flee barefoot into the mountains

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It was 4 hikers together, usually enough to scare a bear away.
They were stopped. It's not like they surprised the bear.
It was presumably daytime. They were unpacking their belongings.
The bear attacked the hiker, not just their food.

Maybe I'll skip that Siberian backpack trip I've been planning.

I thought that we posted this video back in May, but I can't find it.
https://www.instagram.com/p/COt4i13FprY ... 0905a205a2
A woman caught on video being charged by a grizzly bear at Yellowstone faces criminal charges after officials used social media to identify her

... The woman, Samantha Dehring of Carol Stream, Illinois, was charged with two counts, including feeding, touching, teasing, frightening or intentionally disturbing wildlife, as well as violating closures and use limits, the Billings Gazette reported.

Witnesses told investigators that a small group of tourists observing the bears returned to their vehicles when the animals approached, and that they told Dehring to do the same, but she did not....
Lock her up. Such stupidity can easily lead to human AND bear deaths.
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We kids all learned quickly how to cover our lunches when we ate out in the school yard.

The junior high school was named after one of our lesser presidents. By the time we all reached the 9th grade, we all knew of his less than admirable record. At some point along the way I got a big letter insignia suitable for putting on a sports jersey, for no other reason than that I got straight A's. I remember a school jock demanding it. Can't remember if I relinquished it or not. Didn't matter to me.

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What are you smoking?

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We kids all learned quickly how to cover our lunches when we ate out in the school yard.

The junior high school was named after one of our lesser presidents. By the time we all reached the 9th grade, we all knew of his less than admirable record. At some point along the way I got a big letter insignia suitable for putting on a sports jersey, for no other reason than that I got straight A's. I remember a school jock demanding it. Can't remember if I relinquished it or not. Didn't matter to me.
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What are you smoking?

Is Neo sharing?
I think I can translate.

He ate gull crap for lunch.
The point of the post is humble bragging, but it's not much of an accomplishment at Herbert Hoover Junior High.
He bent over for the jocks, but can't admit it, a cowardly trait that persists.

Any flight of ideas will do when it serves his obsession with following a post of mine that actually fits the thread topic. He sees it as some sort of pathetic victory.
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Ulysses wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:52 pm
We kids all learned quickly how to cover our lunches when we ate out in the school yard.

The junior high school was named after one of our lesser presidents. By the time we all reached the 9th grade, we all knew of his less than admirable record. At some point along the way I got a big letter insignia suitable for putting on a sports jersey, for no other reason than that I got straight A's. I remember a school jock demanding it. Can't remember if I relinquished it or not. Didn't matter to me.
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What are you smoking?

Is Neo sharing?
I think I can translate.

He ate gull crap for lunch.
The point of the post is humble bragging, but it's not much of an accomplishment at Herbert Hoover Junior High.
He bent over for the jocks, but can't admit it, a cowardly trait that persists.

Any flight of ideas will do when it serves his obsession with following a post of mine that actually fits the thread topic. He sees it as some sort of pathetic victory.
Hmmm, very interesting.
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Hmmm, very interesting.
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:58 pm
What are you smoking?

Is Neo sharing?
Ulysses wrote:Who are you addressing?
Then he deleted the post before I could quote it. :lol: Must have seen my translation in your quote of me. :---P

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GoCubsGo wrote:
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What are you smoking?

Is Neo sharing?
:D As kids we learned to throw up our lunch once we got back in class. It was a good way to avoid being stuck in a classroom. Just the threat of it or a queasy look would send the teacher into a state of panic and hysteria. I think I received a letter in this but it might have been a letter to my parents for having me. I know it was a letter, though.

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neoplacebo wrote:
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:58 pm
What are you smoking?

Is Neo sharing?
:D As kids we learned to throw up our lunch once we got back in class. It was a good way to avoid being stuck in a classroom. Just the threat of it or a queasy look would send the teacher into a state of panic and hysteria. I think I received a letter in this but it might have been a letter to my parents for having me. I know it was a letter, though.
Sort of like baby vultures.

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