Massacre in Connecticut

[neoplacebo]

Well, thanks for the apology, Leo. I myself go off now and then; sometimes without good cause. But just to clear up something you seem to be confused about....I spend maybe two hours a week reading or posting on this forum. The rest of my time is spent working, paying taxes, and breaking the law.

[rstrong]

Did you notice this?

...Vancouver is far more ethnically diverse than Seattle, and the gun disparity still exists.

No doubt you could explain a 10 or 12% difference with some credibility. But not a 1219% difference. The one thing that's proven many times over, is that there is less gun violence where there are more restrictions on guns.

Speaking of Canadian crime rates, I see that we just made some arrests in the case of the 9,600 barrels of maple syrup stolen from our International Strategic Maple Syrup Reserve facility.

No guns were involved.

A clown held up a bank near my house this week using a gun. He ditched the clown outfit and fake breasts and was trying to hide the money in a snowbank when the police caught him.

Turns out he's a fugitive from Florida, so I'm not sure if that counts as Canadian or American gun crime.

He declined a request for an interview Thursday in the remand centre. "He hates it here, says it's too cold," said a justice source who has dealt with Johnson this week.

[Mad American]

So now it appears that no rifle..much less an "assault rifle" was used in Newtown. It appears that only handguns were used. Wonder how that will fit in with the "assault weapons" ban??
http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/ ... 5#50208495

[billy.pilgrim]

So now it appears that no rifle..much less an "assault rifle" was used in Newtown. It appears that only handguns were used. Wonder how that will fit in with the "assault weapons" ban??
http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/ ... 5#50208495

your "now" is a 12 day old video

but then you do generally run behind the curve

[Mad American]

Just stumbled across the information today. However, that does not change the fact that it appears an AR-15 was NOT used in the shooting. A little tidbit that all of the gun control nuts here have so far FAILED to mention.

If you cant deal with the message shoot the messenger. SSDF

[Mad American]

He used the Bushmaster, you are an idiot.

The Bushmaster IS an AR-15 dumbass, and according to information given NBC in the link I posted it was NOT used.

[Mad American]

Can't help but notice that out of the last few posts I am the only one with a link to a news story. If there is more up to date info out there then please share it, rather than spewing more of your usual male bovine excrement.

[rstrong]

He used the Bushmaster, you are an idiot.

The Bushmaster IS an AR-15 dumbass, and according to information given NBC in the link I posted it was NOT used.

Early on I read in the news that Lanza had left the Bushmaster in the car, so I've been careful of my wording.

A new quick check shows that this was incorrect. From Wikipedia: Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting with plenty of its own citations:

At about 9:35 a.m., using his mother's Bushmaster XM-15 rifle, Lanza shot his way through a locked glass door at the front of the school.

[...]

Police said Lanza used the Bushmaster rifle against most of the victims. According to the state's chief medical examiner, H. Wayne Carver, many of the victims were shot multiple times with the same "long weapon"—the Bushmaster rifle.

[Mad American]

OK fair enough so it seems that liberal bastion NBC was wrong in reporting the info I linked. It makes me wish that ALL news outlets would stop the effort to "out scoop" their competitors and give ACCURATE info the FIRST TIME.

[rstrong]

Still a great impression of nascarfan88.

I disagree.

Once given citations showing that he was incorrect, Mad American accepted that he was incorrect. And that with a credible citation of his own backing his assertion.

Nascarfan88 on the other hand could be shown credible citations - complete with three professors' opinions showing that his interpretation of information was wrong - and he'd respond with "Take your facts and your professors analysis and stick them..."

He'd declare ObamaCare's personal mandate to be unconstitutional commie marxist socialism.... with a Newt Gingrich campaign ad at the bottom of his post. I showed him articles by Newt Gingrich, and video of Newt Gingrich, demanding exactly that personal mandate - with Newt explaining why it was necessary and the opposite of socialism. And he responded that no, Newt didn't think that.

Willful ignorance was like a religion for him.

[billy.pilgrim]

Then running away fits the nascarfan88 model.

The only difference is that pointing it out would have gotten me banned on BRN.

it does prove that I was wrong about him being the ragin idiot

[rstrong]

Then running away fits the nascarfan88 model.

The only difference is that pointing it out would have gotten me banned on BRN.

Good points.

[Mad American]

What do you people want?. I said I stumbled across that link the day I originally posted it. I did not search for it or seek it in any way....it just popped up and I found it interesting. I did NOT KNOW that it was dated. I WAS WRONG. However, you will not admit that in today's 24 hour news cycle that the media is in a constant race to out scoop the competitor. The information was wrong so why was it reported in the first place? Unlike a lot of you I do not sit with my nose buried in the TV or constantly running google searches. I also find it funny that after I posted the link I was immediately called "foolish, really gullible, incapable of research, and/or dishonest". I then made ANOTHER INCORRECT post only to be immediately called an "idiot" but I am the one that went on the attack? Then to top it off after I disengage from the conversation that has obviously jumped track I am "running away" only to have links to this thread posted in every other thread where there is still some semblance of reasonable conversation going on. I made a mistake and thought I admitted so but apparently not well enough to satisfy a few here who will lord the smallest of error over a person in EVERY thread they try to converse in.

[Stinger]

The information was wrong so why was it reported in the first place?

Because journalists aren't God. They can't know all the facts. Their accuracy of their work is limited by the accuracy of their sources.

Is this the first time you've JUST BELIEVED whatever was written on the internet, only to find out you were wrong? All the information in the Trayvon Martin case was correct right out of the blocks?

But if someone stops to investigate and get all the facts right rather than jumping to conclusions, you guys whine "Cover up!" Take Fast and Furious as well as the Benghazi attack. It seems the right-wing extremists actually prefer conjecture to fact.

[billy.pilgrim]

What do you people want?. I said I stumbled across that link the day I originally posted it. I did not search for it or seek it in any way....it just popped up and I found it interesting. I did NOT KNOW that it was dated. I WAS WRONG. However, you will not admit that in today's 24 hour news cycle that the media is in a constant race to out scoop the competitor. The information was wrong so why was it reported in the first place? Unlike a lot of you I do not sit with my nose buried in the TV or constantly running google searches. I also find it funny that after I posted the link I was immediately called "foolish, really gullible, incapable of research, and/or dishonest". I then made ANOTHER INCORRECT post only to be immediately called an "idiot" but I am the one that went on the attack? Then to top it off after I disengage from the conversation that has obviously jumped track I am "running away" only to have links to this thread posted in every other thread where there is still some semblance of reasonable conversation going on. I made a mistake and thought I admitted so but apparently not well enough to satisfy a few here who will lord the smallest of error over a person in EVERY thread they try to converse in.

just admit that you "stumbled across" it and copied and pasted from some right-wing gun-nut website without doing any research at all


end of story, we all move on and you end up a little less the fool

[mike]

...I am what I say. I have a temper and I can be a jerk, and for that I apoligize to you, neo, and Vrede and anyone else I have called names. My inviting you to fight was childish (I do know the gym owner in question) and I am ashamed of it. ...

Honestly, props to Leo. Respect from me.

Sorry I missed this earlier, Leo.

[Leo Lyons]

...I am what I say. I have a temper and I can be a jerk, and for that I apologize to you, neo, and Vrede and anyone else I have called names. My inviting you to fight was childish (I do know the gym owner in question) and I am ashamed of it. ...

Honestly, props to Leo. Respect from me.

Sorry I missed this earlier, Leo.

Thanks Mike. I came into this forum posting an honest opinion on an older thread. I was immediately assailed upon by Stinger as being a liar and a fraud, as well as posing as another poster. No matter what I said, all he would do is fuel my animosity towards him. I have learned to just consider the source and mentality, and let it go.

I'm no angel, but I don't cuss and belittle everyone coming and going whose opinion differs from mine.

[O Really]

Wonder why in the world a liberal inspired gun free zone would ever be thought to be an "easy target" by a mass murdering nut?

Didn't Lanza realize that it was against the law to bring a gun to a gun free zone?

Don't all mass murderers and criminals obey every one of the gun control laws that the liberals have passed?

NO?

Well, hell's bells, let's pass some more gun control laws, that'll show 'em!

Liberals generally support not allowing guns in elementary schools, but it's hardly exclusively a liberal view. The 1990 version of school gun-free zones was passed by a voice vote in the Senate and by 313-1 in the House. Your man Strom Thurmond was a co-sponsor.

But I'm guessing at least one reason the school would be an "easy target" is that it's full of little kids! Another is obviously a really inadequate security system. But the lack of adults with guns would matter only to someone who hoped to escape alive. Most of these nuts do not. But here's a question for you - if you're a civilian adult in the school, and a guy is in the school with a gun, do you shoot him immediately, or wait to see if he's actually going to use it? Do you give a warning, as cops do? And you can probably recognize a Newtown style rifle across the room or down the hall, but are you sure that's a pistol he's holding?

BTW, it seems one logical response to any law that isn't working the way you want is to pass different ones, not just more.

[rstrong]

Did you notice this?

...Vancouver is far more ethnically diverse than Seattle, and the gun disparity still exists.

No doubt you could explain a 10 or 12% difference with some credibility. But not a 1219% difference. The one thing that's proven many times over, is that there is less gun violence where there are more restrictions on guns.

Speaking of Canadian crime rates, I see that we just made some arrests in the case of the 9,600 barrels of maple syrup stolen from our International Strategic Maple Syrup Reserve facility.

No guns were involved.

A clown held up a bank near my house this week using a gun. He ditched the clown outfit and fake breasts and was trying to hide the money in a snowbank when the police caught him.

Turns out he's a fugitive from Florida, so I'm not sure if that counts as Canadian or American gun crime.

He declined a request for an interview Thursday in the remand centre. "He hates it here, says it's too cold," said a justice source who has dealt with Johnson this week.

Follow-up: The clown just won a reduced sentence. His original eight-year term was reduced to six years.

Of course, this just means that he'll be returned to the US sooner, where he has a 25-year criminal history, and where authorities will be waiting for him with other charges.