CHA-CHING!!!!

[rstrong]

The rush to cash in on the Newtown massacre has started!

New Haven-based attorney and deep embarrassment to the human race Irv Pinsky has launched a $100 million lawsuit on behalf of an unidentified 6-year-old client who heard the screaming and shooting.

Naturally, he blames the state Board of Education, Department of Education and Education Commissioner for failing to take appropriate steps to protect children from "foreseeable harm" by assault weapons and presumably other military weapons.

No word on whether he had an orgasm when he heard about the children being massacred, or whether he only filed his first lawsuit over it today because he couldn't stop making Cha-Ching noises.

[mike]

They should be suing the gun manufacturers and the sellers.

Given the circumstances, it'll be kinda hard to sue the Mom who didn't keep the guns properly secured.

And, even at that, I'm sure the level of insurance coverage is much less than the resources of the manufacturers and the sellers; why didn't they see "the 'foreseeable harm' by assault weapons and presumably other military weapons?" ...

[rstrong]

Yup. It's not about who was responsible; it's about who has money, but not so much money that they have a large legal budget. Even if he loses, the parents still owe him the legal fees.

So soon after the massacre and with the lawsuit being prepared over a number of days already, they can't know whether the kid has suffered any "sustained emotional and psychological trauma and injury." There simply hasn't been any time to "sustain" it. But of course it's not about that either.

There's money to be made. It's Christmas, the NRA's gift to ambulance chasers.

[DooHickey]

They should be suing the gun manufacturers and the sellers.

That's what I'm sayin'. My attorney has begun legal proceedings against General Motors for manufacturing the car that struck mine 2 weeks ago, breaking my right leg and shattering my left foot. The local dealer who sold the car to the guy that ran the red light has also been named in the lawsuit. Since the driver of the other car was injured too, no charges were brought against him, nor was he named in the lawsuit because he didn't make the car, and GM and the dealer together had a hand in furnishing his vehicle.

I expect this to be an open and shut case; GM has already indicated an out-of-court settlement and we expect to hear from the dealer soon.

I'll keep you posted as I heal.

[O Really]

DooHickey's effort at satire/humour is noted.

But past that, let's see if we can make it realistic. The other driver was in a car with known issues on gas pedal sticking. GM designed it poorly, the dealer looked at it on recall and didn't fix it. DooHickey received an injury that wouldn't have happened if the car had been designed better or if the dealer had fixed it properly. Is it really a matter of ridicule that the dealer and manufacturer might be included in the suit?

[DooHickey]

DooHickey's effort at satire/humour is noted....Is it really a matter of ridicule that the dealer and manufacturer might be included in the suit?

Thank you, I've been noted again. I'm collecting these notes.
If there had in fact, been a problem with the car, you have a legitimate point.
As it is, you're being asinine and protective of Mike's silly rambling concerning suing the gun maker. Perhaps Mike was being facetious, but my scenario addresses the redundancy.

I well knew I'd catch the flak for posting that piece which was just as silly as what Mike suggested.

I was in an accident due to the other driver running the red light; there were no flaws in the car. (barring the short between the seat and the steering wheel) Simply because GM made the car is the basis for the imaginary lawsuit in question, which fits right in with Mikes assessment of why the gun manufacturer should be sued.

Good for you, DooHickey. You usually protect corporations from being responsible for the damage they've done and were clearly at fault for.

References? Or are you just being anti-corporate again?

I deal mostly with frivolous lawsuits brought on by scumbags too lazy to work (and their unscrupulous lawyers like the one in this thread subject) who have nothing more to do but attempt to scam corporations for large sums of money by hoping for an out-of-court settlement. Example of one case is a lawsuit brought on by a strong wind blowing an entrance door open and smacking a customer (exiting the entrance door) in the face breaking a tooth. Sued for a million dollars claiming that if the door had been heavy enough, the wind wouldn't have caught it and blew it open. I was successful in getting the case thrown out.

[O Really]

I deal mostly with frivolous lawsuits brought on by scumbags too lazy to work (and their unscrupulous lawyers like the one in this thread subject) who have nothing more to do but attempt to scam corporations for large sums of money by hoping for an out-of-court settlement. Example of one case is a lawsuit brought on by a strong wind blowing an entrance door open and smacking a customer (exiting the entrance door) in the face breaking a tooth. Sued for a million dollars claiming that if the door had been heavy enough, the wind wouldn't have caught it and blew it open. I was successful in getting the case thrown out.

And defence of those "frivolous" lawsuits give you the opportunity to earn a comfortable living and keep all your toys paid for, right? Oh woe is you.
My point wasn't whether you (and sincerely sorry for your accident - I didn't know it was real) actually had a reason to sue the dealer or the manufacturer - it was that doing so would not necessarily be ridiculous depending on the facts and circumstances.

[O Really]

Either DooHickey actually thinks she lives in a world where all corporations are righteous and plaintiffs have never really been injured by them, or they only give her the easy cases because they can't trust her with ones where the corporation was at fault or even might have been.

Sounds like insurance defence to me. She and Super-S are the dynamic duo.

[billy.pilgrim]

DooHickey's effort at satire/humour is noted....Is it really a matter of ridicule that the dealer and manufacturer might be included in the suit?

Thank you, I've been noted again. I'm collecting these notes.
If there had in fact, been a problem with the car, you have a legitimate point.
As it is, you're being asinine and protective of Mike's silly rambling concerning suing the gun maker. Perhaps Mike was being facetious, but my scenario addresses the redundancy.

I well knew I'd catch the flak for posting that piece which was just as silly as what Mike suggested.

I was in an accident due to the other driver running the red light; there were no flaws in the car. (barring the short between the seat and the steering wheel) Simply because GM made the car is the basis for the imaginary lawsuit in question, which fits right in with Mikes assessment of why the gun manufacturer should be sued.

Good for you, DooHickey. You usually protect corporations from being responsible for the damage they've done and were clearly at fault for.

References? Or are you just being anti-corporate again?

I deal mostly with frivolous lawsuits brought on by scumbags too lazy to work (and their unscrupulous lawyers like the one in this thread subject) who have nothing more to do but attempt to scam corporations for large sums of money by hoping for an out-of-court settlement. Example of one case is a lawsuit brought on by a strong wind blowing an entrance door open and smacking a customer (exiting the entrance door) in the face breaking a tooth. Sued for a million dollars claiming that if the door had been heavy enough, the wind wouldn't have caught it and blew it open. I was successful in getting the case thrown out.

do you call corporations "scumbags" when they market defective products with full knowledge that injury or death will result?

how about, if they should have known that injury or death would result?

or how about.... and the list could go on forever
sure, some will be frivolous, but that's the nature of the system - some real and some that don't measure up - the system decides. you seem to be saying that only successful lawsuits should ever be initiated -

if the wind had blown that door open many times and caused a series of injuries, yet appeared to be a door similar to that of other businesses and the owner that made no effort to repair or warn, then the scumbag should pay damages

if the wind was a unusual situation and the owner had no way of knowing that this could happen - doesn't sound like much of a case, - end of story

except for the part about some scumbag who believes people who sue corporations are scumbags

[DooHickey]

The brilliance coming out of you three is overwhelming.

I understand O Really is an attorney; Vrede and dot.pilgrim just a couple of jerk offs who believe they've got everything figured out.

I'll address this to O Really, and let the two wannabees' minds swirl in mass confusion. O R, you know the ads you constantly see on TV asking if you or a loved one have been injured (I love this one) or died from using/taking/been deceived by a specific product? "If so, call Screwem, Screwem, and Screwem Law Firm today and get what you're rightly entitled to"! If you read the fine print, you'll see that cases are not actually handled by the forenamed law firm, but will be referred to some dickhead law firm that pays S,S,& S a fat commission.

Now the basis of the class action.....someone, somewhere, had a reaction to a medication and became ill or died; or someone failed to read the instructions or specifications that come with a product. Well.....every one's system is not identical, whether it's a medical issue or a comprehension issue, and despite the hundred's of thousands of dollars that manufactures spend to print warnings, manuals, instructions, etc., someone gets sick, dies, feel they got shafted, got hurt, etc. Then along comes the vultures.

Here's an example. A few years back, someone initiated a class action against the manufacturers of lawn mowers and riding mowers stating that the horsepower rating stamped on the product was not actual down to the nth. horsepower. The lawsuit named practically every maker of small engines, including many of the mass retailers. The lawsuit was handled by some conglomerate vulture law firm, who smelling a large payout, mailed out solicitations to practically every household in America that had purchased lawn mowers/riders in the last five years. "If you feel you have been willfully deceived by dishonest practices from these manufacturers, you must join the class action now or opt out by.........". Naturally, the makers and retailers denied any willful conceit. (I didn't represent this case, but was indirectly involved)

In the end, because of the number of respondents, the makers and retailers involved decided to settle out of court to avoid a long expensive legal battle. The law firm reaped millions, each respondent averaged a payout of $3.17, depending on what they had purchased. If I and four other attorneys working on this case hadn't argued for the defendants, the class action members would have gotten less and the Vultures would have walked away with everything.

So, my job is hunting vultures. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. When people in my industry lose, the whole country loses.
I'm not saying there aren't legitimate suits and intentional wrong-doings; I am saying that there are predatory law firms that cost this country billions in higher prices and lost revenues.

CHA-CHING!!!!

[billy.pilgrim]

The brilliance coming out of you three is overwhelming.

I understand O Really is an attorney; Vrede and dot.pilgrim just a couple of jerk offs who believe they've got everything figured out.

I'll address this to O Really, and let the two wannabees' minds swirl in mass confusion. O R, you know the ads you constantly see on TV asking if you or a loved one have been injured (I love this one) or died from using/taking/been deceived by a specific product? "If so, call Screwem, Screwem, and Screwem Law Firm today and get what you're rightly entitled to"! If you read the fine print, you'll see that cases are not actually handled by the forenamed law firm, but will be referred to some dickhead law firm that pays S,S,& S a fat commission.

Now the basis of the class action.....someone, somewhere, had a reaction to a medication and became ill or died; or someone failed to read the instructions or specifications that come with a product. Well.....every one's system is not identical, whether it's a medical issue or a comprehension issue, and despite the hundred's of thousands of dollars that manufactures spend to print warnings, manuals, instructions, etc., someone gets sick, dies, feel they got shafted, got hurt, etc. Then along comes the vultures.

Here's an example. A few years back, someone initiated a class action against the manufacturers of lawn mowers and riding mowers stating that the horsepower rating stamped on the product was not actual down to the nth. horsepower. The lawsuit named practically every maker of small engines, including many of the mass retailers. The lawsuit was handled by some conglomerate vulture law firm, who smelling a large payout, mailed out solicitations to practically every household in America that had purchased lawn mowers/riders in the last five years. "If you feel you have been willfully deceived by dishonest practices from these manufacturers, you must join the class action now or opt out by.........". Naturally, the makers and retailers denied any willful conceit. (I didn't represent this case, but was indirectly involved)

In the end, because of the number of respondents, the makers and retailers involved decided to settle out of court to avoid a long expensive legal battle. The law firm reaped millions, each respondent averaged a payout of $3.17, depending on what they had purchased. If I and four other attorneys working on this case hadn't argued for the defendants, the class action members would have gotten less and the Vultures would have walked away with everything.

So, my job is hunting vultures. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. When people in my industry lose, the whole country loses.
I'm not saying there aren't legitimate suits and intentional wrong-doings; I am saying that there are predatory law firms that cost this country billions in higher prices and lost revenues.

CHA-CHING!!!!

sure there are predatory lawyers and people looking for a free ride

just as there are companies that sit back with attorneys and accountants and evaluate facts that they know will kill people and make the decision to allow the deaths to continue because the pay-off to the victims will cost less than repairing the problem

that why we have courts

again you seem like some who believe people who lose should have not been allowed to sue

[Crock Hunter]

and despite the hundred's of thousands of dollars that manufactures spend to print warnings, manuals, instructions, etc.,

I too thank our liberal lawmakers for this sort of requirement. ... ..

So, my job is hunting vultures. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. When people in my industry lose, the whole country loses.
I'm not saying there aren't legitimate suits and intentional wrong-doings; I am saying that there are predatory law firms that cost this country billions in higher prices and lost revenues.

CHA-CHING!!!!

In all, your post is one of the best rationalizations for why 5000 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean is indeed a good start... it's practically as good as the one about patent trolls..

[DooHickey]

I knew I could count on you to verify my comments, however not all you've cited is/was actual events that occured.

...jerk offs...
Vulgar childishness, as usual.
You don't call your puppets childish when they spout off their adjectives. OK for them, not for me?

...minds swirl in mass confusion...
Delusional, as usual.
same as above

...Now the basis of the class action.....someone, somewhere, had a reaction to a medication and became ill or died; or someone failed to read the instructions or specifications that come with a product. Well.....every one's system is not identical, whether it's a medical issue or a comprehension issue, and despite the hundred's of thousands of dollars that manufactures spend to print warnings, manuals, instructions, etc., someone gets sick, dies, feel they got shafted, got hurt, etc. Then along comes the vultures.

On DooHickey's planet drug makers never hide data and companies never sell unsafe products.
I didn't say that. Did you not read further on where I said "I'm not saying there aren't legitimate suits and intentional wrong-doings"

Here's an example. A few years back, someone initiated a class action against the manufacturers of lawn mowers and riding mowers stating that the horsepower rating stamped on the product was not actual down to the nth. horsepower. The lawsuit named practically every maker of small engines, including many of the mass retailers. The lawsuit was handled by some conglomerate vulture law firm, who smelling a large payout, mailed out solicitations to practically every household in America that had purchased lawn mowers/riders in the last five years. "If you feel you have been willfully deceived by dishonest practices from these manufacturers, you must join the class action now or opt out by.........". Naturally, the makers and retailers denied any willful conceit. (I didn't represent this case, but was indirectly involved)

The real story:

Scores of Lawnmower Makers Settle Horsepower Suit: Consumers alleged false advertisements, conspiracy

...the defendants sold "identical, but differently and misleadingly labeled, engines at different prices -- with higher prices for engines labeled with purported higher horsepower." In other words, the companies took two identical engines, slapped different labels on them, and sold them at significantly different prices.
That was the law firms accusation. It was unprovable in court and the charge was thrown out.

The suit also claimed that several of the companies created a so-called "Power Labeling Task Force," a group that they used to plan and organize their conspiracy. The group held meetings "at various locations," and even kept minutes that were distributed once the task force had adjourned.
Again, another falsified claim by the law firm

By discovering the task force, the plaintiffs were able to include a count for violation of the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO). According to the complaint, the defendants' "repeated acts of mail and wire fraud" -- namely, mailing false and misleading advertisements -- rose "above mere fraud."...
The advertisements for horsepower ratings were deemed misleading because an 18hp rider engine could only muster a maximum of 12-13 hp under stringent testing. The engine makers tried to cut corners and save money by falsely stating hp output of their engines.

In the end, because of the number of respondents, the makers and retailers involved decided to settle out of court to avoid a long expensive legal battle. The law firm reaped millions, each respondent averaged a payout of $3.17, depending on what they had purchased. If I and four other attorneys working on this case hadn't argued for the defendants, the class action members would have gotten less and the Vultures would have walked away with everything.

The real story:

...Under the settlement, class members who submit timely claim forms can receive $35 for every eligible walk-behind lawnmower they own, and $75 for every eligible ride-on mower. Consumers who own a Briggs & Stratton, Toro, Tecumseh, TecumsehPower, Kawasaki, or Kohler mower, which was under a manufacturer's warranty when purchased, can receive a one-year warranty extension.
No, dearie, Here's the real story: This was the hype that the law firm promised in their mailings to the nation's masses. Note it doesn't say the class action members (CAM's) would receive that amount, it says "can receive that amount". That promise was made to potential CAM's BEFORE the case ever went to court. As I stated, the response was overwhelming, and practically every CAM opted for a cash settlement rather than a warranty extension. Inasmuch as the law firm was going to come up short with their take, the CAM's lost out on any $35/75 settlement. (My nephew received a check for $1.78 for his push mower, along with a letter of "apology" from the law firm)

Additionally, MTD, Kawasaki, Kohler, Sears, Deere, Tecumseh, Briggs & Stratton, Toro, Electrolux, and Husqvarna have agreed to begin using a "new uniform standard" to measure horsepower...

It's interesting that Sears was the only retailer named in the suit while Lowe's, Home Depot, and Walmart got off scot-free. The reason was because the largest portion of Sears power products are made by Electrolux Home Products (EHP), and Sears services their own Craftsman Brand which they advertised with false hp ratings.
(EHP also makes Husqvarna, Poulan, Weedeater, and a number of well-known brands.)

So, my job is hunting vultures. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. When people in my industry lose, the whole country loses.
When corporations cheat or hurt people without consequence, the whole country loses.
Can't deny that. I believe the idea behind the hp-trimming was to make the engines more environmentally friendly according to EPA standards. The average buyer wouldn't know the difference in the loss of a few hp; what made the difference was that the public wasn't informed as they should have been, and the law firm saw the chance to make a few million, and the public still lost. Had my team of litigators (or any other team) not been there in the public's behalf, the law firm would have pocketed all the proceeds from the suit.

I'm not saying there aren't legitimate suits and intentional wrong-doings; I am saying that there are predatory law firms that cost this country billions in higher prices and lost revenues.
Duh.
yeah, duh.

CHA-CHING!!!!

Other countries regulate more heavily and have a more effective safety net. We've chosen a more laissez-faire system and lawsuits take the place of regulations and safety nets. It fits with your con philosophy and has made you a lot of money. Quit whining about your own lucrative wishes coming true.
Now that you've impressed your puppets with your vast wealth of knowledge, let me let you in on a little secret: the US is the most sue-happy country in the world. Being an attorney is a lucrative job; you can be an honest attorney, or you can be one of the most despised chunks of human flesh to waste the precious air we breathe. I'm not quite sure I know what you mean about my "con philosophy", but I take it to mean anything that you disagree with.

You seem to be mighty jealous of what others earn; are you still on minimum wage or something? You've accused others of getting rich off their professions. Look, just because we studied damn hard to get where we are today, who are you, but a bitter wannabe, to belittle other's honorable professions? I've never represented or stood by any person or firm that I felt was conducting themselves in a dishonest manner, and I'm not about to start. So you, and your puppets, dearie, can stick your soapboxes where the sun don't shine.

[O Really]

Thanks, DooHickey for the "professional courtesy" as it were. I don't practice personal injury law and never have, but I know some people who do, and on an individual basis, they don't seem any more sleaze bags than my colleagues and myself, not to mention the GC's we occasionally work for. Bottom line, though, these "vultures" provide you an opportunity to earn a good living. If it weren't for them, you'd have to go into family law or godforbid Labor and Employment or Real Estate. You just have a different point of view from them, and wear a different color team jersey. It's not personal. Why so much animosity?

[DooHickey]

Thanks, DooHickey for the "professional courtesy" as it were.
You're welcome.

I don't practice personal injury law and never have, but I know some people who do, and on an individual basis, they don't seem any more sleaze bags than my colleagues and myself, not to mention the GC's we occasionally work for.

Bottom line, though, these "vultures" provide you an opportunity to earn a good living. If it weren't for them, you'd have to go into family law or godforbid Labor and Employment or Real Estate. You just have a different point of view from them, and wear a different color team jersey. It's not personal. Why so much animosity?

I myself don't handle personal cases. I have met some of the finest and most honorable attorneys to be found anywhere; but the ones who advertise on national TV urging people to join class-action suits are the ones who give the profession a black eye. The more people they can get to join the CAS, the bigger the payout for them if they win, and generally the CAM's get less. These law firms spend big bucks to seek out the cases, many times the cases don't come to them. If it has been learned that just one person had a reaction to a medication, that one person had obtained a faulty product, etc., that's all they need to start an advertising campaign seeking anyone who has been "injured", and anyone seeking "financial compensation". Some have been found to have made up claims in order to initiate law suits. Of course, I don't have to tell you how many people will jump on board a CAS suit hoping for a pay-day. These are the vultures and sleaze bags I speak of. That's where my animosity comes from.

It's unfortunate I do wear a different color team jersey, a different hat even; but I have never attempted to get a client out of hot water when they were knowingly in the wrong.

[DooHickey]

Quit whining. What I did was point out that you both got the system cons want and you personally benefit from it. If you don't like it start wanting a different system, allowing corporations to skate without either regulation or torts ain't gonna happen. Huh? and you piss at others for lack of sentence structure and punctuation?

We've seen your definition of honesty.

So you are a bitter minimum wage wannabe.

Poor whining baby. How many CAS have you been a part of to supplement your poor wages? From your jealous description of those who have fared better than you, anyone who earns a living doing something you aren't capable of, is dishonest and is "profiting from their dishonesty". Must suck to be you. Now you run along and have a happy New Year and kwitcherdambellyakin; you might be a better person for it....no wait...nahh!

[k9nanny]

What was the subject? Oh, yeah-

The rush to cash in on the Newtown massacre has started!

New Haven-based attorney and deep embarrassment to the human race Irv Pinsky has launched a $100 million lawsuit on behalf of an unidentified 6-year-old client who heard the screaming and shooting.

Naturally, he blames the state Board of Education, Department of Education and Education Commissioner for failing to take appropriate steps to protect children from "foreseeable harm" by assault weapons and presumably other military weapons.

No word on whether he had an orgasm when he heard about the children being massacred, or whether he only filed his first lawsuit over it today because he couldn't stop making Cha-Ching noises.

I suppose my parents could have sued Rosa Edwards School for negligently installing the concrete sidewalk that broke my arm. Wouldn't have happened had the sidewalk been made of rubber.

However, we're happy DooHickey had the opportunity to engage in a bit of professional puffery.

[DooHickey]

The rush to cash in on the Newtown massacre has started!

New Haven-based attorney and deep embarrassment to the human race Irv Pinsky has launched a $100 million lawsuit on behalf of an unidentified 6-year-old client who heard the screaming and shooting.
No word on whether he had an orgasm when he heard about the children being massacred, or whether he only filed his first lawsuit over it today because he couldn't stop making Cha-Ching noises.

They should be suing the gun manufacturers and the sellers....

It's not about who was responsible; it's about who has money, but not so much money that they have a large legal budget. Even if he loses, the parents still owe him the legal fees.

My attorney has begun legal proceedings against General Motors for manufacturing the car that struck mine 2 weeks ago,

Good for you, DooHickey. You usually protect corporations from being responsible for the damage they've done and were clearly at fault for....and this: Either DooHickey actually thinks she lives in a world where all corporations are righteous and plaintiffs have never really been injured by them, or they only give her the easy cases because they can't trust her with ones where the corporation was at fault or even might have been....and: again you seem like some who believe people who lose should have not been allowed to sue.

just as there are companies that sit back with attorneys and accountants and evaluate facts that they know will kill people and make the decision to allow the deaths to continue because the pay-off to the victims will cost less than repairing the problem.
Do you really think Obama has a 'death squad'? That's the stupidest, most ignorant remark I've ever heard. Your brother/daddy/uncle Fred Phelps taught you well.

However, we're happy DooHickey had the opportunity to engage in a bit of professional puffery.
It's rather difficult to 'engage' with the 'Professional Puffery'; that Gay Goat has all the angles, knows all ways to shaft others, knows exactly where to lay the blame, and whine, moan, and piss because he missed out making a higher paying career for himself. Because others did, according to him, they did so dishonestly and at the expense of others' suffering and loss.

Speaking of suffering, I'm not going to belittle his line of work because I have to respect anyone that can do what he does.
It's just sucks he doesn't have the balls to reciprocate respect for the work others do.

I repeat; It must suck to be 'Vrede'...oh wait....there's that rainbow thingy....

My post about attorneys was meant to address what rstrong originally wrote about a scumbag lawyer;
yet none of you sock-puppets chose to chastise him for calling that lawyer a scumbag. Different rules for those "on your side"? Because you consider me a 'con' I don't get to have a word or opinion about a posted subject?



Cast of Characters: Front: President Vrede
Back row, l to r: billy.pilgrim, k9nanny, Stinger, rstrong, and (partially hidden so his cat won't see him)...mike
Not present for photo: Bungalow Bill, neoplacebo, O Really

[billy.pilgrim]

ust as there are companies that sit back with attorneys and accountants and evaluate facts that they know will kill people and make the decision to allow the deaths to continue because the pay-off to the victims will cost less than repairing the problem.
Do you really think Obama has a 'death squad'? That's the stupidest, most ignorant remark I've ever heard. Your brother/daddy/uncle Fred Phelps taught you well.

Cast of Characters: Front: President Vrede
Back row, l to r: billy.pilgrim, k9nanny, Stinger, rstrong, and (partially hidden so his cat won't see him)...mike
Not present for photo: Bungalow Bill, neoplacebo, O Really [/quote]


well doodoo - I never said the guy isn't a scumbag - he is and his lawsuit sucks

but I did point out that you consider anyone who makes what you consider to be a frivolous lawsuit to be a scumbag and I asked the simple question - do you consider corporations and their corporate attorneys who sit back and evaluate facts that they know will kill people and make the decision to allow the deaths to continue because the pay-off to the victims will cost less than repairing the problem.

and you go off on phelps and sarah plain and simple's death panels

there are hundreds of similar cases but I was referring to Ford and their cute Pinto that so many parents bought for their children
and all the while the ceo and the board and the attorneys and the accountants knew that the frame would buckle in a 5 mph crash and that the gas tank was unprotected in a rear end 5 mph crash
and that the people in the car would burn

and they sat around a big table and discussed how they could keep the info quite
how many lawsuits they would have to settle to keep the info away from the public so sales would continue

and they did discuss a recall but in the end decided it would be cheaper to push the victims and their families around, beat up as many as they could in court and settle with the others

and pocket the profits

I realize the story is a bit old

but I already tossed by copy of Public Citizen that shows the fines big pharma paid last year for hiding the truth about products that should have never been on the market (big pharma has a bunch of scumbag corporate attorneys protecting their rights to profit off of the deaths of consumers)



now tell us more of how great thou art

[Bungalow Bill]

Maybe one of these days he'll figure out what a sock puppet is and
give up on the amateur psychology, though not necessarily in that order.