Tree Hugger Thread

[O Really]

a $250K ... CA home.

Way out where Joshua Trees grow I suspect one could build a mansion or something pretty modest, especially if it's partially DIY like these folks are doing.

Maybe, if you get far enough out, like a couple of miles from the Arizona line and 50 miles north of nowhere. But the article referenced "neighbor" and "lot" so I'm guessing it's not that far out. Lots of Joshua Trees around Palm Springs and Coachella Valley and probably more people who would turn you in for cutting them down.

[Vrede too]

Report: Appalachian states face billions in mining cleanup
A new report says the cleanup and reclaiming of coal mines in seven Appalachian states will cost billions

Duh.

... “As more coal companies declare bankruptcy, fewer companies remain to take over mines, so the number of companies forfeiting reclamation bonds and deserting their cleanup responsibilities will only increase," the report said.

Double duh.

... The seven states, which also include Alabama, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Tennessee and Virginia, have about 633,000 acres (256,000 hectares) in need of reclamation. Kentucky and West Virginia have about 400,000 of those acres (162,000 hectares), the report said....

NC has other enviro problems, but we are fortunate that we never had coal despite being braced by it.

[Vrede too]

2 dead, 30 injured after leak at _______ chemical plant

Guess the state.

Spoiler:

I guessed Texas or LA. Ain't deregulation and lack of enforcement grand?

[neoplacebo]

I knew the answer since I read about it earlier today. I'm waiting to hear how much the corporation gets from insurance and how many nearby residents get nothing and how the local authorities will pronounce it a great thing and how they wish for another leak, spill, or blast.

[GoCubsGo]

After decades in woods, New Hampshire man forced from cabin

Bummer.

[neoplacebo]

After decades in woods, New Hampshire man forced from cabin

Bummer.

Yeah, I read about that guy earlier. Hope he gets to stay at his place. I bet he could give Whack9 some pointers about harvesting wild stuff you can eat. Probably an expert on it.

[Vrede too]

After decades in woods, New Hampshire man forced from cabin

Bummer.

Yeah, I read about that guy earlier. Hope he gets to stay at his place. I bet he could give Whack9 some pointers about harvesting wild stuff you can eat. Probably an expert on it.

"Lidstone"

Fire destroys cabin of New Hampshire man forced out of woods

... The vast bulk of Lidstone’s personal items had been removed from the cabin before the fire, Giles’ attorney Lisa Snow Wade said Wednesday night. Several outbuildings remained, and no animals were found, either running around or deceased, Canterbury Fire Chief Michael Gamache said....

Lidstone’s decision to live in the woods is “exactly the lifestyle he wants,” said his brother, Vincent Lidstone, 77, of Lafayette, Georgia.

“What they’re doing to him isn’t right for anybody, whether he’s my brother or anybody’s brother,” he said. “He’s 81 years old. Leave him alone.”

... It’s unclear where Lidstone would go. Vincent Lidstone said he doesn’t have the resources to help him. The Associated Press reached two of his three sons, who said they haven’t been in touch with their father recently. His daughter didn’t respond to a message seeking comment....

[billy.pilgrim]

After 27 years I would think that he has some sort of claim on the property.

No matter who owns the land, the fire should be investigated as arson (and the asshole should be locked up)

[Vrede too]

After 27 years I would think that he has some sort of claim on the property....

I wondered, but since the legal fight has been going on since 2016-17, apparently not.

[billy.pilgrim]

After 27 years I would think that he has some sort of claim on the property....

I wondered, but since the legal fight has been going on since 2016-17, apparently not.

It looks like he would be fine in 49 states

https://www.american-apartment-owners-a ... ights-law/

[Vrede too]

It looks like he would be fine in 49 states

https://www.american-apartment-owners-a ... ights-law/

Idk and sure don't know how that website applies to his situation - hopefully the judges do - but the owner supposedly did not find out about him until 2015 and took immediate steps to evict him. Plus, from the original article:

But even if there were a way to allow Lidstone to stay, it would be an uphill battle. His home was in violation of local and state zoning and environmental regulations, and there was no access to a road.

Someone may be charged for the arson, but my GUESS is that no replacement cabin will ever be built.

[billy.pilgrim]

It looks like he would be fine in 49 states

https://www.american-apartment-owners-a ... ights-law/

Idk and sure don't know how that website applies to his situation - hopefully the judges do - but the owner supposedly did not find out about him until 2015 and took immediate steps to evict him. Plus, from the original article:

But even if there were a way to allow Lidstone to stay, it would be an uphill battle. His home was in violation of local and state zoning and environmental regulations, and there was no access to a road.

Someone may be charged for the arson, but my GUESS is that no replacement cabin will ever be built.

Did you read past the heading?

"What is a squatter?
"A squatter is any individual who decides to inhabit a piece of land or a building in which they have no legal right to occupy. The squatter lives in the building or on the property they select without paying rent and without lawful documentation stating they own the property, are a law-abiding tenant, or that they have permission to use or access the area."

Then it list the 49 states that have any type of squatter laws.
New Hampshire has none. It reads to me that after 27 years he couldn't have been removed from any of the other 49 states.

[billy.pilgrim]

It looks like he would be fine in 49 states

https://www.american-apartment-owners-a ... ights-law/

Idk and sure don't know how that website applies to his situation - hopefully the judges do - but the owner supposedly did not find out about him until 2015 and took immediate steps to evict him. Plus, from the original article:

But even if there were a way to allow Lidstone to stay, it would be an uphill battle. His home was in violation of local and state zoning and environmental regulations, and there was no access to a road.

Someone may be charged for the arson, but my GUESS is that no replacement cabin will ever be built.

Then there's this

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia ... ssion.html

NH law says it was his after 20 years

I hope the publicity inspires a good attorney

[Vrede too]

Then there's this

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia ... ssion.html

NH law says it was his after 20 years

I hope the publicity inspires a good attorney

I would hope that the judges drew on more legal resources than two websites, but idk.

It doesn't sound like he was asserting squatter's rights. Instead:

Lidstone, who doesn’t have an attorney, insisted that his cabin is a hunting and fishing camp, not a home. He also argued that Giles doesn’t own the property but is being pressured by the town.

Regardless, squatting may confer limited property rights, but it doesn't achieve exemption from zoning and environmental regulations. Sounds like he was screwed regardless of any squatting resolution.

[neoplacebo]

I consider wingnut right wing nutjobs much more of a threat than one squatter. I sure would hate to see what those Missouri "lawyers" that were pardoned for brandishing guns in a menacing manner would do if they found this guy in their back yard. I would hope they'd die of shock.

[Vrede too]

After decades in woods, New Hampshire man forced from cabin

Bummer.

A hermit jailed for refusing to leave his cabin built on someone else's land was given $180,000 by a tech billionaire to help him find a new home

[GoCubsGo]

After decades in woods, New Hampshire man forced from cabin

Bummer.

A hermit jailed for refusing to leave his cabin built on someone else's land was given $180,000 by a tech billionaire to help him find a new home

[O Really]

“I will build a great wall—and nobody builds walls better than me, believe me—and I’ll build them very inexpensively,” Trump said when he announced his run for president in 2015. “I will build a great, great wall on our southern border, and I will make Mexico pay for that wall. Mark my words.”



https://gizmodo.com/trumps-border-wall- ... 1847535174

[Vrede too]

“I will build a great wall—and nobody builds walls better than me, believe me—and I’ll build them very inexpensively,” Trump said when he announced his run for president in 2015. “I will build a great, great wall on our southern border, and I will make Mexico pay for that wall. Mark my words.”

https://gizmodo.com/trumps-border-wall- ... 1847535174

Pulitzer pic!

De nada, mis latinos.
-- Jesus Cristo

[Vrede too]

Wind power is dangerous and expensive.

Watch a freight train slam into truck carrying a wind turbine blade in Texas
Nobody was hurt, but there was plenty of inanimate carnage