California Recall

[O Really]

What a bunch of clowns signed up to run for Governor. Well, probably not all of them are real clowns, and some of them might not actually kick kittens, but apparently nobody thought it necessary or desirable to have any political experience. Except former (not very good) San Diego mayor Faulkener, who's buried way down the list and his experience as mayor isn't shown.

I would've attached the sample ballot pdf, but it was rejected as "file too large"

[O Really]

Here's the list. Enjoy.

Candidates to succeed GAVIN NEWSOM as Governor if he is recalled: Vote for ONE

JAMES G. HANINK Retired Educator Party Preference: None
DAVID HILLBERG Aircraft Mechanic/Actor Party Preference: REP
JEFF HEWITT Riverside County Supervisor Party Preference: LIB
JOHN R. DRAKE College Student Party Preference: DEM
LARRY A. ELDER Broadcaster/Author Party Preference: REP
KEVIN PAFFRATH Financial Educator/Analyst Party Preference: DEM
ADAM PAPAGAN Entertainer Party Preference: None
ARMANDO "MANDO" PEREZ-SERRATO Party Preference: DEM
JOHN COX Businessman/Accountant/Father Party Preference: REP
HEATHER COLLINS Business Owner/Hairstylist Party Preference: GRN
DANIEL WATTS Free Speech Lawyer Party Preference: DEM
NICKOLAS WILDSTAR Musician/Entrepreneur/Father Party Preference: REP
SARAH STEPHENS Pastor Party Preference: REP
DENVER STONER Deputy Sheriff Party Preference: REP
JOE M. SYMMON Community Volunteer Party Preference: REP
MAJOR SINGH Software Engineer Party Preference: None
DOUG OSE Farmer/Small Businessman Party Preference: REP
DAN KAPELOVITZ Criminal Defense Attorney Party Preference: GRN
KEVIN K. KAUL Real Estate Developer Party Preference: None
CHAUNCEY "SLIM" KILLENS Retired Correctional Officer Party Preference: REP
KEVIN KILEY California Legislator Party Preference: REP
PATRICK KILPATRICK Actor/Screenwriter/Producer Party Preference: DEM
ANTHONY TRIMINO Entrepreneur/CEO Party Preference: REP
JOEL VENTRESCA Retired Airport Analyst Party Preference: DEM
KEVIN L. FAULCONER Businessman/Educator Party Preference: REP
RHONDA FURIN Nonprofit President Party Preference: REP
ROBERT C. NEWMAN II Farmer/Psychologist Party Preference: REP
DENNIS RICHTER Retail Store Worker Party Preference: None BRANDON M. ROSS Physician/Attorney Party Preference: DEM
SAM L. GALLUCCI Pastor/CEO/Consultant Party Preference: REP
TED GAINES Board of Equalization Member Party Preference: REP
CAITLYN JENNER Businessperson/Entrepreneur Party Preference: REP
LEO S. ZACKY Businessman/Farmer Party Preference: REP
JENNY RAE LE ROUX Business Owner/Mother Party Preference: REP
DAVID LOZANO Executive Officer/Attorney Party Preference: REP
STEVE CHAVEZ LODGE Retired Homicide Detective Party Preference: REP
MICHAEL LOEBS University Lecturer Party Preference: None
DENIS LUCEY Teacher Party Preference: None
DIEGO MARTINEZ Businessman Party Preference: REP
JEREMIAH "JEREMY" MARCINIAK Party Preference: None
DANIEL MERCURI Father/Business Owner Party Preference: REP
JACQUELINE MCGOWAN Cannabis Policy Advisor Party Preference: DEM
DAVID MOORE Public School Teacher Party Preference: None
DAVID ALEXANDER BRAMANTE Realtor/Multifamily Developer Party Preference: REP
HOLLY L. BAADE Mother/Business Owner Party Preference: DEM
ANGELYNE Entertainer Party Preference: None
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[GoCubsGo]

So as I understand it, when voting on the recall voters get two questions.

1. Do you want to recall Yes/No

2. Choose your preferred candidate (amongst 40 or so running).



If 50% +1 choose to recall then the candidate with the most votes wins. All voters vote for their preferred candidate whether they voted for or against the recall.

Polls are showing an even split on the recall issue.

So how does Newsome not win when roughly 50% of the state doesn't want to recall him to begin with and most will probably vote to retain him and the other 39 candidates are splitting the balance of votes?

[O Really]

So how does Newsome not win when roughly 50% of the state doesn't want to recall him to begin with and most will probably vote to retain him and the other 39 candidates are splitting the balance of votes?

Newsome isn't on the "replacement" list. If the vote goes against him, then he's lost and we get one of the cast of thousands. Current leader is the YouTube millionaire. Some on the list won't get any votes except their own and maybe their mother's. If he wins the first vote (no on recall), then he stays in office and the guv wannabes don't get counted - or at least the count wouldn't count.

[Vrede too]

What a bunch of clowns signed up to run for Governor. Well, probably not all of them are real clowns, and some of them might not actually kick kittens, but apparently nobody thought it necessary or desirable to have any political experience. Except former (not very good) San Diego mayor Faulkener, who's buried way down the list and his experience as mayor isn't shown.

I would've attached the sample ballot pdf, but it was rejected as "file too large"

Edit: Dammit, you posted the list while I was composing. Oh well, mine's separated by party and I added some commentary.

I'm not sure who's leading overall. I've seen different articles naming Paffrath (D) and Elder (R).

Here you go:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Cali ... candidates

Qualified candidates

Democratic

Holly L. Baade, spiritual teacher and coach
John R. Drake, college student
Patrick Kilpatrick, actor, screenwriter, and producer
Jacqueline McGowan, cannabis advocate and business owner
Kevin Paffrath, YouTuber, real estate broker, and landlord - leading Dem
Armando "Mando" Perez-Serrato, business owner
Brandon M. Ross, doctor and lawyer
Joel A. Ventresca, former executive committee member of the Service Employees International Union, retired airport analyst, and perennial candidate (including in the 1995, 1999, and 2019 San Francisco mayoral elections, and the 1997 San Francisco treasurer election)
Daniel Watts, free speech lawyer and Green candidate in the 2003 California gubernatorial recall election

Republican

David Alexander Bramante, real estate agent, developer, and podcast host
John H. Cox, businessman and 2018 Republican gubernatorial nominee
Larry Elder, conservative talk show host and author - leading RepuQ
Kevin Faulconer, former mayor of San Diego (2014–2020)
Rhonda Furin, non-profit president, retired special education teacher, and candidate for California's 45th congressional district in 2020
Ted Gaines, member of the California State Board of Equalization (2019–present), former senator from California's 1st State Senate district (2011-2019) and assemblyman from California's 4th State Assembly district (2006–2011)
Sam L. Gallucci, pastor and software developer
David Hillberg, actor and aircraft mechanic
Caitlyn Jenner, reality show personality, transgender rights activist, and former Olympic athlete
Kevin Kiley, assemblyman from California's 6th State Assembly district (2016–present)
Chauncey "Slim" Killens, pastor and retired correctional officer
Jenny Rae Le Roux, business owner and management consultant
Steve Chavez Lodge, former detective, former police commissioner, and business owner
David Lozano, former Los Angeles County deputy sheriff, attorney, and candidate for California's 25th congressional district in the 2020 special election
Diego Martinez, business owner
Daniel R. Mercuri, business owner and candidate for California's 25th congressional district in the 2020 special election and 2020 general election
Robert C. Newman II, psychologist and perennial candidate (including in the 2003 recall and 2006, 2010, 2014, and 2018 gubernatorial elections)
Doug Ose, former U.S. representative from California's 3rd congressional district (1999–2005) and 2018 gubernatorial candidate
Sarah L. Stephens, pastor, motivational speaker, and conservative activist
Denver Stoner, Alpine County deputy sheriff
Joe M. Symmon, community volunteer and Democratic candidate in the 2010 California gubernatorial election
Anthony Trimino, business owner
Nickolas Wildstar, rapper and perennial candidate (including in the 2014 and 2018 gubernatorial elections, 2018 Fullerton City Council elections, and 2020 Fresno mayoral election)
Leo S. Zacky, former vice president of Zacky Farms

Libertarian

Jeff Hewitt, Riverside County supervisor (2019–present) and former mayor of Calimesa (2015–2018)

Green

Heather Collins, hairstylist
Dan Kapelovitz, criminal defense attorney and former Hustler editor

No party preference

Angelyne, singer, actress, model, and candidate in the 2003 California gubernatorial recall election
James G. Hanink, former Loyola Marymount University philosophy professor
Kevin K. Kaul, real estate developer and founder of the U.S. Global Business Forum
Michael Loebs, San Francisco State University lecturer and chairman of the California National Party
Denis Lucey, teacher
Jeremiah "Jeremy" Marciniak, business owner
David Moore, teacher and Socialist Equality Party candidate in the 2018 United States Senate election in California
Adam Papagan, entertainer and tour guide
Dennis Richter, Walmart employee, candidate in the 2017 Los Angeles mayoral election, and member of the Socialist Workers Party
Major Singh, software engineer

As you say, many with zero political experience, but there are a few with some including:

Kevin Faulconer, former mayor of San Diego (2014–2020), as you say
Rhonda Furin, non-profit president, retired special education teacher, and candidate for California's 45th congressional district in 2020 - I'd say that special ed teacher is relevant
Ted Gaines, member of the California State Board of Equalization (2019–present), former senator from California's 1st State Senate district (2011-2019) and assemblyman from California's 4th State Assembly district (2006–2011)
Kevin Kiley, assemblyman from California's 6th State Assembly district (2016–present)
Chauncey "Slim" Killens, pastor and retired correctional officer - I'd say that prison guard is relevant
Steve Chavez Lodge, former detective, former police commissioner, and business owner - Is police commissioner relevant? Idk
Doug Ose, former U.S. representative from California's 3rd congressional district (1999–2005) and 2018 gubernatorial candidate
Jeff Hewitt, Riverside County supervisor (2019–present) and former mayor of Calimesa (2015–2018)
Dan Kapelovitz, criminal defense attorney and former Hustler editor - I'd say that pornographer is relevant

All Repuq except for 1 Libertarian and 1 Green.

Denver Stoner, Alpine County deputy sheriff - Not qualified, but you gotta love a cop named Stoner

[Ulysses]

What a bunch of clowns signed up to run for Governor. Well, probably not all of them are real clowns, and some of them might not actually kick kittens, but apparently nobody thought it necessary or desirable to have any political experience. Except former (not very good) San Diego mayor Faulkener, who's buried way down the list and his experience as mayor isn't shown.

I would've attached the sample ballot pdf, but it was rejected as "file too large"

Of course I'm voting No on the recall.

If there are that many names on the ballot, it will be a real joke.

California needs to clean up its recall process, that's for sure.

The leading "Dem", Pfrafth, is a German born millionaire (only about 5 million, though) who seems rather conservative on a number of key issues, primarily economic.

The biggest joke on that list is Kaitlyn Jennings. Boy she ugly. Boy. LOL.

[neoplacebo]

Shit, I bet you're on that list.

[Ulysses]

Shit, I bet you're on that list.

No, but I have reason to believe I'm on Vrede's shit list.

Not that I care!

[neoplacebo]

Well, hang in there, I guess. Maybe you can get some sort of recall or perhaps a second opinion.

[Vrede too]

... The biggest joke on that list is Kaitlyn Jennings. Boy she ugly. Boy. LOL.

It's Caitlyn Jenner, juvenile bigot.

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I read the petition.

What it showed me is that Amanda needs to go back to school and learn how to spell and write well.

It's "statistics" and not "statics".

In the phrase, "Quarantine’s do not equate to positive tests...", the use of the possessive apostrophe is incorrect....

Mirror. Do you need "to go back to school"?

[Ulysses]

Vrocde strikes agin!

[GoCubsGo]

So how does Newsome not win when roughly 50% of the state doesn't want to recall him to begin with and most will probably vote to retain him and the other 39 candidates are splitting the balance of votes?

Newsome isn't on the "replacement" list. If the vote goes against him, then he's lost and we get one of the cast of thousands. Current leader is the YouTube millionaire. Some on the list won't get any votes except their own and maybe their mother's. If he wins the first vote (no on recall), then he stays in office and the guv wannabes don't get counted - or at least the count wouldn't count.

Guess I didn't understand correctly. :confusion-shrug:

[Vrede too]

(Vrede too) strikes agin!

Useless cowers from his flub, bigotry, funny hypocrisy, and a question, again.

[O Really]

Edit: Dammit, you posted the list while I was composing. Oh well, mine's separated by party and I added some commentary.

Yes, but mine's the random way they appear on the ballot. Yours would be too helpful. I think you may be taking poetic licence with the term "qualified" though.

[Ulysses]

Vrocde strikes agin!

Ulysses schools Vrocde, again.

Noice!

[Vrede too]

Yes, but mine's the random way they appear on the ballot. Yours would be too helpful. I think you may be taking poetic licence with the term "qualified" though.

In case you're not just making a joke, "Qualified candidates" is the Wiki and I presume state description, not mine. I only went so far as "some" political experience.

[Vrede too]

Noice!

Altering others' posts is childish, desperate and sleazy, as is inventing 3rd party praise for yourself. Plus, you're still cowering, Useless, cowering. Awww.

[O Really]

Yes, but mine's the random way they appear on the ballot. Yours would be too helpful. I think you may be taking poetic licence with the term "qualified" though.

In case you're not just making a joke, "Qualified candidates" is the Wiki and I presume state description, not mine. I only went so far as "some" political experience.

Sure, t'was said with tongue firmly in cheek, but sadly the state's definition of "qualified' pretty much lets in anybody who hasn't yet got caught bribing, embezzling, or exhorting, or even if they did get caught as long as the didn't get convicted, they're good to go.

[Ulysses]

What Is Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder?

Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) is a disorder in which people have recurring, unwanted thoughts, ideas or sensations (obsessions) that make them feel driven to do something repetitively (compulsions). The repetitive behaviors, such as hand washing, checking on things or cleaning, can significantly interfere with a person’s daily activities and social interactions.

Many people without OCD have distressing thoughts or repetitive behaviors. However, these thoughts and behaviors do not typically disrupt daily life. For people with OCD, thoughts are persistent, and behaviors are rigid. Not performing the behaviors commonly causes great distress. Many people with OCD know or suspect their obsessions are not realistic; others may think they could be true (known as limited insight). Even if they know their obsessions are not realistic, people with OCD have difficulty disengaging from the obsessive thoughts or stopping the compulsive actions.

A diagnosis of OCD requires the presence of obsessions and/or compulsions that are time-consuming (more than one hour a day), cause significant distress, and impair work or social functioning. OCD affects 2-3% of people in the United States, and among adults, slightly more women than men are affected. OCD often begins in childhood, adolescence, or early adulthood; the average age symptoms appear is 19 years old.

...

Obsessions are recurrent and persistent thoughts, impulses, or images that cause distressing emotions such as anxiety or disgust. Many people with OCD recognize that the thoughts, impulses, or images are a product of their mind and are excessive or unreasonable. However, the distress caused by these intrusive thoughts cannot be resolved by logic or reasoning. Most people with OCD try to ease the distress of the obsessions with compulsions, ignore or suppress the obsessions, or distract themselves with other activities.

[Ulysses]

Noice!

Altering others' posts is childish, desperate and sleazy, as is inventing 3rd party praise for yourself. Plus, you're still cowering, Useless, cowering. Awww.

And yet you, Vrocde, do it all the time.