COVIDiots

[GoCubsGo]

Huge turnout in Greenville today.

Anyone see Whack9?

[neoplacebo]

for their next trick they will eat beans with their hands and smile.

[GoCubsGo]

Curious how the group consciousness would react.

Went to a local mom and pop bbq joint for pickup. Previously they had been terrific with covid protocols including non contact pickup. That part has ended, ok fine.

But when I went in to pick up tonight the owner, some cooks and the girl packing and bagging my food weren't masked (required in Illinois).

Major turn off for me, told them why and left.

Thoughts?

[O Really]

Major turn off for me, told them why and left.

Thoughts?

Yep. Me too.

[GoCubsGo]

Major turn off for me, told them why and left.

Thoughts?

Yep. Me too.

Figured in your travels you might've seen a bunch of that.

Unusual in my neck of the woods.

[O Really]

Major turn off for me, told them why and left.

Thoughts?

Yep. Me too.

Figured in your travels you might've seen a bunch of that.

Unusual in my neck of the woods.

West of Idaho, masks were generally re-accepted without much issue in stores, etc., but you still get the yahoos screaming about being suppressed. Despite having enjoyed parts of northern Idaho in years past, we just stayed away this summer. And once we got west of the Cascades, the overall vaccination rate is high and mask compliance about as good as can be expected. Meanwhile, San Diego County 87.7% have had at least one shot, with 78.2% being done. But even there, the unvaccinated fools are about 450,000 people and they're the ones still getting sick. So yeah, I wouldn't go into a store that didn't enforce a state or local mandate, or I'd leave telling them why.

[GoCubsGo]

Yeah, it was the visual of some stranger packing and breathing on my food that set me off. It was a turn off.

[O Really]

Yeah, it was the visual of some stranger packing and breathing on my food that set me off. It was a turn off.

I don't know if the idea of a stranger packing and breathing on my food bothers me all that much. Food contamination hasn't turned out to be much of a risk, and I do have my shots. But - a place that ignores common safety measures that are a part of state law and clearly helpful in controlling the virus isn't getting my business any more than the place that lets rats run loose through the kitchen or leaves unwiped barf on the tables.

[GoCubsGo]

Yeah, I even posted a Yelp review. Something I've never done before because I felt that people that door dash or whatever deserved to know (it's a takeout only place).

Heard back from the owner, "I'm a small business guy, there's no mandate " yada.

It was all bullshit and he was trying to gaslight which I didn't appreciate. Told him it was incumbent on him to know the rules and regulations and if he was so adamant that he's done nothing wrong why doesn't he make his response public and let people decide for themselves.

He backtracked and apologized pretty quickly.

[O Really]

Good work! If he gives you any more worthless responses, I'm sure neoplacebo would be happy to assist in the communication.

[Ulysses]

O Really wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 26, 2021 8:08 pm

I don't know if the idea of a stranger packing and breathing on my food bothers me all that much. Food contamination hasn't turned out to be much of a risk, and I do have my shots. But - a place that ignores common safety measures that are a part of state law and clearly helpful in controlling the virus isn't getting my business any more than the place that lets rats run loose through the kitchen or leaves unwiped barf on the tables.

Agreed.

I recall all the hoopla about hand sanitizers etc. Then I saw a credible report that the primary covid transmission medium is through respired virus laden droplets. Via hands, not so much. This means masking is far more important to control covid transmission than hand cleanliness, although all on its own hand cleanliness is highly desirable anyway, just not so much to stop covid. What is worrisome about the fast food place CC encountered is the workers were all maskless, presumably in an indoor space.

BTW, you know how businesses have gone all out with transparent plastic shields to combat covid? Well, I saw a story the other week that these barriers might actually make the situation worse. I'll have to go look for the article to see how that could be. Probably because the shields wind up interfering with air circulation systems, meaning whatever in the droplets remains suspended in the air longer than if there are no such shields.

OK, found it:

In-Depth: Plastic barriers likely don't block COVID and may increase the risk

SAN DIEGO (KGTV) -- A growing body of research suggests it’s time to rethink those anti-COVID plastic barriers used as fortifications in retail stores, restaurants and countless other indoor settings.

Studies on aerosols and airflow reveal these screens are “unlikely to provide any direct benefit,” according to a group of scientists who advise the U.K. government. And there is some evidence the barriers can actually increase the risk of infection.

Unless a plastic barrier is carefully installed by an airflow engineer, “it is potentially harmful rather than being helpful,” said UC San Francisco infectious disease expert Dr. Peter Chin-Hong. The air in a typical room gets replaced with fresh air every 15 to 30 minutes. Experts say rows of plastic barriers can trap air and impede ventilation.

“It’s very clear that indoors without much ventilation turns out to be the worst thing for the virus to spread,” said Dr. Davey Smith, chief of infectious diseases at the UC San Diego School of Medicine.

Oops...

[neoplacebo]

Good work! If he gives you any more worthless responses, I'm sure neoplacebo would be happy to assist in the communication.

Yeah, the owner probably wouldn't like it if I put the word out that the place is take out only because of all the disgusting sexual deviancy that goes on there before, during, and after the food has been prepared.

[O Really]

I've seen comments about encouraging people to "do their research" on the vaxx, and then an interview with LeBron James who said he "did his research" and found getting vaxxed was best for him and his family. How courageous. Anyway, I wondered just where and how do these people "research"? Assuming they aren't running their own clinical trials, it looks like there are only a few sources for data. That would include the CDC, the FDA, other country's versions of those agencies, the WHO, and the manufacturers. Then there are people who present and comment on data from those places. And then there are people who make up their own facts. All the agencies - domestic and foreign, all the manufacturer's reports, all the medical profession analysis of the data, and most of the non-medical analysts consistently and without equivocation say the vaccine is safe and effective, with minimal risk. You can find anecdotal evidence of people who appear to have had some reaction, or stories of somebody's cousin's friend of a friend whose balls may or may not have swollen, but no statistical evidence of side effect risk. There is no evidence of anybody being chipped or magnetized, even from those who claim chipping and magnetizing occurs.

So a review of all this information would take about 15 minutes max, it seems. So where are they "researching"? Oh wait, there's NewsMax, Faux, and Facebook memes. Yeah, that's the ticket.

[O Really]

So consider what you'd have to believe to be a non-vaxxer:
That the CDC, FDA, and the medical profession are all in cahoots to intentionally inflict harm on the American people.
That most other countries are also trying to cause some harm to their people.
That Pfizer, et. al., who will make gazillions of money for a successful vaccine and will be driven out of business for a poisonous one, will see its best interest to opt for causing harm.
That every analysis of the efficacy and safety of the vaccine, in the US and worldwide, is written by liars or propagandists or others involved in the conspiracy to cause harm.
That the government (or somebody) in the US and worldwide is managing to hide all the millions of people suffering ill effects from the vaccine.
And worse...

[GoCubsGo]

Welcome to the deep, deep state.

Don't forget about climate change!

[Ulysses]

Good work! If he gives you any more worthless responses, I'm sure neoplacebo would be happy to assist in the communication.

Yeah, the owner probably wouldn't like it if I put the word out that the place is take out only because of all the disgusting sexual deviancy that goes on there before, during, and after the food has been prepared.

The take-out counter slogan? "Come Again" ? ? ?

[O Really]

Late Tuesday night, San Diego Unified School District’s Board of Education unanimously approved a requirement that all employees of the district and students over the age of 16 get the COVID-19 vaccine if they’re attending in-person school. Some protesters claiming "loss of freedom" showed up and were summarily ignored.

Students who do not get the vaccination may opt for home schooling. Basically, get vaxxed or stay home. Meanwhile, 88.2% of San Diegans 12 and older have received at least one shot, with 78.8% fully vaccinated.

[Ulysses]

Late Tuesday night, San Diego Unified School District’s Board of Education unanimously approved a requirement that all employees of the district and students over the age of 16 get the COVID-19 vaccine if they’re attending in-person school. Some protesters claiming "loss of freedom" showed up and were summarily ignored.

Students who do not get the vaccination may opt for home schooling. Basically, get vaxxed or stay home. Meanwhile, 88.2% of San Diegans 12 and older have received at least one shot, with 78.8% fully vaccinated.

Cool.

[Vrede too]

I see, once again you're pleading innocence and ignorance when busted. Sad.

Alabama councilman, 19, hospitalized with covid after opposing mask mandate: 'Terrible not to be able to breathe'

Karma wins again.

Thoughts and prayers to utilize what little grey matter God bestowed on you.

"The media continues to report on Covid-19 and explains 'Death' each time they do. That is honestly terrifying to me but I have faith in the lord."

"the lord" gave you scientists and mask makers, asshole.

CC can be annoying, but I wouldn't go so far as call him an "asshole".

Now, you, on the other hand...

O Really called you out, too, twice:

...

Now deny, divert or run away, Useless. You always do.

When I see a post by (Vrede too), and that most often is because someone quoted it, I'm well prepared to expect it will be irrational, mean spirited, and/or downright evil.

So far I haven't be proved wrong in that expectation.

As I've pointed out all along, Useless is upset because I attacked an anti-vaxxer. Yuck, he must be one, too.

[Vrede too]

But the point you originally missed is that Vrede didn't call "CC" or any forum poster an asshole. He called the main character in the article, a city council member in Alabama, an asshole. A cursory scan of the post with its quotes and links could have seemed the "asshole" applied to CC, but a closer reading and a consideration of the context clearly shows the asshole in the article was the asshole to whom Vrede directed his comment. Water under the bridge.

OK, not to belabor the point, but on 9-18-21 Vrudy stated in response to GCG,

""the lord" gave you scientists and mask makers, asshole." ... (long-winded, moronic Useless whining ignored)

As O Really has tried explaining to you 4! times and you remain too stupid to understand, everyone but you got that my statement was aimed at the anti-vaxxer "city council member in Alabama, an asshole", NOT GCG. "the lord" is even a direct quote of the city council member, dummy.

Are you really this dense or are you just too sackless to admit that you, and only you, misread the obvious? Either way, pathetic.