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Unvaccinated Capitol Rioter Pleads for Leniency Because She’s Scared of Getting Covid in Prison

In other words, she thinks that she should skate on her criminal wingnuttery because her own personal wingnuttery places her at enhanced risk. :angry-banghead:
... Bissey’s argument that she could die from Covid-19 in prison is only the latest in a string of appeals to the court. Her lawyer also argued that Bissey has been “chastised on the street,” and that she had to relocate her salon because of a “drop in clientele” and economic hardships brought on by the pandemic.
:violin: Lock her up!
As (Bissey’s lawyer) McFarlane pointed out earlier this week, Bissey even sent the judge a handwritten letter laying out that she’s about to be a grandmother, that she’s a “God-fearing, country-loving, law-abiding patriot,” and that she has attended several of Trump’s rallies without incident. “I am deeply saddened by the events that transpired on that day, and deeply remorseful that I will forever be associated,” she added of January 6th.

Bissey’s attitude seems to have changed only as she’s realized there are, in fact, consequences to participating in a mob that forcibly storms a federal building. Court documents include screenshots of several social media posts in which Bissey gleefully recounted her experience at the Capitol prior to her arrest in February.

“It was a day I’ll remember forever,” she wrote on Facebook on January 7th. “I’m so proud I was a part of it! No shame.”
Opps. :---P

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God hell, it's wingnuttery to the second power. Shit in a tree...and fall down in it.

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neoplacebo wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 3:48 pm
God hell, it's wingnuttery to the second power. Shit in a tree...and fall down in it.
:D

They're still arresting people:

A woman who bragged about storming Pelosi's office and stealing beer during the Capitol riot has been arrested

Many will skate, but thinking about the hundreds of traitors that have feared the knock on the door for months makes me smile.

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A Capitol rioter who said he was 'just there to go to the bathroom' was sentenced to 3 months in jail after video appears to show him pushing a cop

... Robert Reeder, 55, told FBI investigators he was an "accidental tourist" at the Capitol on a simple excursion to Washington, DC, to see then-President Donald Trump speak. Reeder's attorney, Robert Bonsib, wrote in a filing that his client planned to visit the monuments in the city until he learned about a group of people traveling to the Capitol building after Trump's speech.

Bonsib said his client is a Democrat - though "not politically active" - who accidentally ended up on January 6 grouped with "views he abhors." Reeder's Facebook history prior to January 6 paints a different picture about his views: Reeder wrote about "POS liberals," saying "this time the conservatives will stand their ground and the radicals will die."

Reeder pleaded guilty in June to picketing inside the Capitol and was originally scheduled for sentencing in August.

However, the date was postponed after investigators discovered videos they say show him shoving a police officer right outside the building. Prosecutors originally requested a two-month sentence for Reeder but upped their request to a six-month sentence after the evidence was brought to light.

US District Judge Thomas F. Hogan admonished Reeder on Friday during his sentencing, saying he was not truthful with investigators about his participation on January 6, saying that he was no ordinary tourist.

"I find your statements to the FBI to be self-serving and disingenuous, frankly," the judge said.

Judge Hogan further noted that many of the Capitol rioters sentenced thus far have expressed a severe lack of contrition, despite their guilty pleas.

"It's become evident to me in the riot cases, many of the defendants who are pleading guilty are not truly accepting responsibility," Hogan said. "They seem to be trying to get this out of the way as quickly as possible."

Despite the additional evidence showing Reeder pushing an officer, Hogan only sentenced Reeder to three months in jail along with a $500 restitution fee to cover damages to the Capitol.

More than 650 people have been charged locally and federally in relation to the Capitol protests, but less than 100 rioters have pleaded guilty thus far.
Trumpettes are cowardly liars, just like their idol. I've read of many guilty pleas, but not too many sentences yet. Depending on what an individual did I'm okay with three months and $500. I'd be even more okay with more.

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Capitol rioter suspected of stealing Nancy Pelosi's laptop is charged. Her plot to sell it to Russian spies is still being investigated, says report.

... Riley Williams, 22, from Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, stole Nancy Pelosi's laptop on January 6 according to an indictment unsealed on Thursday, and planned to try and sell it to Russian intelligence agents,

She has been charged with eight counts, including theft of government property, obstructing an official proceeding, and assaulting or resisting police, according to the indictment....

Williams could face 20 years in jail and fines of $600,000 if she is convicted, The Daily Mail said....
:---P Lock her up!

A lesson I learned when I was a radical youth: Not counting overt civil disobedience and minor misdemeanors one can either boast about political activities or be a criminal militant, but NOT both. Many of the 1/6 traitors are too inexperienced, naive and stupid to know this. Good.

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Sat Oct 09, 2021 8:36 pm
Capitol rioter suspected of stealing Nancy Pelosi's laptop is charged. Her plot to sell it to Russian spies is still being investigated, says report.

... Riley Williams, 22, from Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, stole Nancy Pelosi's laptop on January 6 according to an indictment unsealed on Thursday, and planned to try and sell it to Russian intelligence agents,

She has been charged with eight counts, including theft of government property, obstructing an official proceeding, and assaulting or resisting police, according to the indictment....

Williams could face 20 years in jail and fines of $600,000 if she is convicted, The Daily Mail said....
:---P Lock her up!

A lesson I learned when I was a radical youth: Not counting overt civil disobedience and minor misdemeanors one can either boast about political activities or be a criminal militant, but NOT both. Many of the 1/6 traitors are too inexperienced, naive and stupid to know this. Good.
She'll get less than 3 months
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
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She'll get less than 3 months
I would not be surprised by a mere slap on the wrist.

But it would be nice if Trump were charged as an accessory.

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The vast majority of these traitors will only be given token punishment. As far as I know, the maximum sentence for a misdemeanor conviction is 11 months and 29 days. Some have already been in jail for several months so at trial there's not much else that can legally be done.

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neoplacebo wrote:
Sun Oct 10, 2021 7:56 am
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She'll get less than 3 months
The vast majority of these traitors will only be given token punishment. As far as I know, the maximum sentence for a misdemeanor conviction is 11 months and 29 days. Some have already been in jail for several months so at trial there's not much else that can legally be done.
'There have to be consequences:' Judge ups sentences for U.S. Capitol rioters

... In the past week, U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan has imposed sentences ranging from 14 to 45 days on four people who pleaded guilty to unlawful parading and picketing inside the Capitol building on Jan. 6 — a misdemeanor offense.

"There have to be consequences for participating in an attempted violent overthrow of the government, beyond sitting at home," Chutkan said at one of the hearings.

More than 650 people have been charged with joining the Jan. 6 violence, when supporters of Republican Donald Trump fought with police, smashed windows and charged through the building in an attempt to overturn his election defeat. So far, more than 100 people have pleaded guilty, and at least 17 of those defendants have been sentenced....

On Wednesday, Chutkan sentenced two cousins who breached the Capitol and took selfies while doing so to 45 days in jail.

Prosecutors had asked Chutkan to sentence each of the defendants — Robert Bauer of Kentucky, and Edward Hemenway of Virginia — to 30 days in prison.

A day earlier, Chutkan sentenced an unrelated defendant, Dona Sue Bissey of Indiana, to two weeks of incarceration.

Prosecutors recommended Bissey, 52, serve probation, citing her early acceptance of responsibility and cooperation with law enforcement.

Bissey's friend, Anna Morgan-Lloyd, avoided jail time after pleading guilty to the same crime, receiving a sentence of three years of probation from a different judge in June....

Chutkan is not the first judge to second-guess the Justice Department's handling of the Jan. 6 prosecutions.

Beryl Howell, the chief judge of the federal court in Washington, has suggested prosecutors were being too lenient in allowing some defendants to plead guilty to misdemeanor offenses.

At a hearing in August, Howell said even defendants facing low-level offenses played a role in "terrorizing members of Congress" on Jan 6.

During a plea hearing, the judge asked: "Does the government, in agreeing to the petty offense in this case, have any concern about deterrence?"

So far, no judge has rejected a plea deal offered by prosecutors in a Jan. 6 case.

Almost all of the defendants to be sentenced so far pleaded guilty to non-violent misdemeanors. The Justice Department has signaled that it plans to seek much stiffer penalties for felonies.

In the case of Florida man Paul Hodgkins, who pleaded guilty to one felony count of obstruction of an official proceeding, the Justice Department requested an 18 month sentence. U.S. District Judge Randolph Moss went lighter on Hodgkins, sentencing him to eight months.
Capitol rioter represents himself and accidentally admits to more crimes

:lol: Trumpette = Qidiot.
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More Qidiots:

Former (La Habra, California - Orange County) police chief charged in Capitol riot requests to defend himself in order to expose 'corruption' of FBI investigation into attack
Capitol Police officer charged with trying to help a January 6 rioter avoid law enforcement

... Prosecutors say officer Michael Angelo Riley - who worked with the K-9 unit and has been with the department for nearly 25 years - told an unnamed rioter to remove online photos of him at the Capitol to avoid criminal charges, according to the indictment filed in US District Court on Thursday.

Riley is accused of sending dozens of messages to the rioter.

"I am a Capitol Police officer who agrees with your political stance," Riley wrote in one message with the unnamed person, as quoted in the indictment. "Take down the part about being in the building they are currently investigating and everyone who was in the building is going to be charged. Just looking out!" ...

The FBI arrested the accused rioter on January 19. On January 20, he told Riley about his interview with the FBI, and Riley deleted all of their direct messages later that day, according to the indictment....
Ironic that Riley didn't know that nothing is really deleted and that his own messages would be just as damning as the online photos.

Attempted coverup is far worse than the original crimes:
An accused Capitol rioter threatened his children with violence if they reported him to the police, prosecutors say

... Guy Reffitt of Wylie, Texas, has been charged with taking part in the riot and faces five federal charges, including bringing guns to the Capitol, Reuters reported.

The charges also include using physical force and the threat of physical force against his teenage son and daughter if they gave information to authorities, federal investigators said, according to Reuters.

Prosecutors have subpoenaed Reffitt's son, daughter, and wife, Reuters reported. They have already spoken to investigators despite the alleged threats.

His daughter has testified against him in court, and his son said he reported him to the FBI. These actions are how investigators learned about the alleged threats....

Reffitt never entered the Capitol building during the riot, but is accused of charging police officers outside, Reuters noted.

Reffitt was arrested in January and is currently awaiting trial in a Washington jail, according to Reuters.

Five people died in the riot, including a Capitol Police officer.
Qidiots should not be allowed to be parents.

Lock them up!

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9 Republicans voted to hold Trump aide Bannon in contempt of Congress

"Reps. Liz Cheney of Wyoming, Adam Kinzinger of Illinois, Fred Upton of Michigan and Anthony Gonzalez of Ohio."

"Peter Meijer of Michigan, John Katko of New York and Jaime Herrera Beutler of Washington ... Nancy Mace of South Carolina and Brian Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania."

"There was one House Republican who did not vote at all on Thursday: Greg Pence of Indiana, the elder brother of former Vice President Mike Pence"

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Fri Oct 22, 2021 7:01 am
9 Republicans voted to hold Trump aide Bannon in contempt of Congress

"Reps. Liz Cheney of Wyoming, Adam Kinzinger of Illinois, Fred Upton of Michigan and Anthony Gonzalez of Ohio."

"Peter Meijer of Michigan, John Katko of New York and Jaime Herrera Beutler of Washington ... Nancy Mace of South Carolina and Brian Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania."

"There was one House Republican who did not vote at all on Thursday: Greg Pence of Indiana, the elder brother of former Vice President Mike Pence"
I read a story just a little while ago that said Steve Scalise urged all GOP members to vote against holding Bannon in contempt. He says the Jan 6 committee has no legislative reason to hold him in contempt. I've already "congratulated" my Diana Harshbarger for her "no" vote. I also asked her why she hates America and why she incessantly barks about socialism (I reminded her that she's a socialist "worker" and how she and her husband stole hundreds of thousands of socialist Medicare and Medicaid dollars without any fear of socialism) and communism (she and her husband sold patients Chinese "communist" drugs instead of the drugs their prescriptions called for). She and her husband ran a local pharmacy here before she was elected. I don't know if they still do. I hope so because they're both so corrupt they will likely be caught again.

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neoplacebo wrote:
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The vast majority of these traitors will only be given token punishment. As far as I know, the maximum sentence for a misdemeanor conviction is 11 months and 29 days. Some have already been in jail for several months so at trial there's not much else that can legally be done.
A Texas man received the longest sentencing related to the January 6 riots so far despite not even being at the Capitol

A federal judge sentenced Troy Smocks, 58, to 14 months in prison after he pleaded guilty to one felony count of transmitting threats in interstate commerce.

He was originally also indicted for a second count of the same offense, but it was rescinded when he pleaded guilty.

Smocks admitted to sending several threatening messages onto Parler, a social media app, on January 6 where he called for people to "go hunting" after politicians of both parties.

"Prepare Our Weapons, and then go hunting. Lets hunt these cowards down like the Traitors that each of them are," Smocks wrote. "This includes, RINOS, Dems, and Tech Execs."

Smocks said the hunting was justified, adding "We now have the green light" after Rep. Mo Brooks "asked the Patriots to pledge Our live and wealth to fight for Our country" and President Donald Trump told a crowd of supporters to "fight like hell."

Trump and Brooks' speeches before the Capitol riots began have been placed under the microscope after Democratic Rep. Eric Swalwell sued the two, among others, saying that Brooks helped "incite the violence at the Capitol" when he told protesters to "start taking down names and kicking ass" and that Trump's rhetoric added additional fuel to the fire when he told his followers to "fight like hell."

According to prosecutors, Smocks' prolonged sentence is a result of his lengthy criminal history of 18 convictions between the early 1980s and 2006, where he was found guilty of producing fake documents, bank fraud, stealing, larceny, auto theft, impersonating a federal agent, and more.

While Smock was sentenced to 14 months in prison, he'll only need to serve five more months because he received credit for time already spent in jail.

Following his prison sentence, Smock must undergo three years of supervised release.

While Smock's sentencing is the longest so far, several other Capitol riot suspects have received charges that amount to up to 6.5 years in prison but have yet to be sentenced.

At least 684 people have been arrested both locally and federally in relation to the Capitol riot, but only 105 have pleaded guilty so far.
Good. Typical Trumpette.

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This clown was charged with a felony. Most of the clowns have been charged with misdemeanors. And this guy appears to be a dedicated criminal since his early 20's. I predict he is arrested again within six months after serving his remaining sentence. I think he's a criminal addict.

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This clown was charged with a felony. Most of the clowns have been charged with misdemeanors. And this guy appears to be a dedicated criminal since his early 20's. I predict he is arrested again within six months after serving his remaining sentence. I think he's a criminal addict.
Most of them probably deserve misdemeanors - entry without violence or property destruction, at least as far as can be proved. That said, I'd be fine with severe misdemeanor sentences for participation in sedition.

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Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:51 pm
neoplacebo wrote:
Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:20 pm
This clown was charged with a felony. Most of the clowns have been charged with misdemeanors. And this guy appears to be a dedicated criminal since his early 20's. I predict he is arrested again within six months after serving his remaining sentence. I think he's a criminal addict.
Most of them probably deserve misdemeanors - entry without violence or property destruction, at least as far as can be proved. That said, I'd be fine with severe misdemeanor sentences for participation in sedition.
Yeah, it's too bad that a lot of them didn't turn on each other. Then we could get charges like aggravated assault, murder.....you know, proud boy stuff.

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Eamus Catuli~AC 000000 000101 010202 020303 010304 020405....Ahhhh, forget it, it's gonna be a while.

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This should be fun.

Can the House refer their own members for charges?

Jan. 6 Protest Organizers Say They Participated in ‘Dozens’ of Planning Meetings With Members of Congress and White House Staff
Our forum lawyer, OR, would be the one to ask.

However I suspect the representative would have to be ejected from the legislative body before charges could stick.

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Our forum lawyer, OR, would be the one to ask.

However I suspect the representative would have to be ejected from the legislative body before charges could stick.
Nope. It is tricky for DoJ to investigate sitting members due to the "separation of powers" between Congress and the Executive, but it's happened often. For example, California's Duke Cunningham was investigated, charged and plead guilty before he resigned from the House.

Any impeachment would require a two-thirds majority of the Senate - not gonna happen. Idk if any senators are accused in this, nor whether toothless censure in the House or Senate can be done by simple majority. Nancy can remove committee assignments, but real punishment is up to DoJ and the courts.

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neoplacebo wrote:
Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:55 pm
Yeah, it's too bad that a lot of them didn't turn on each other. Then we could get charges like aggravated assault, murder.....you know, proud boy stuff.
Perhaps because most of them were incompetent amateurs?

Perhaps what the Trump cult needs is a finishing school for insurrectionists.

Could even be a profit center.

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