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[Ulysses]

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Only 1 bidder to run Georgia's Confederate-themed park

Management companies have little, if any, direct control over Confederate imagery at Stone Mountain Park, and state law bars any change to the enormous mountainside carving of Confederate leaders Jefferson Davis, Stonewall Jackson and Robert E. Lee.

Such companies also have no role in the board's current initiatives to loosen ties to the Confederacy, such as dropping the carving from its logo and moving Confederate flags from a busy walking trail.

Dombrowski said he “absolutely” supports such efforts, which also include creating a new museum exhibit about the park’s and carving’s history and long ties to the Ku Klux Klan.

“We can’t do anything about a rock,” he said. “But we can do something about the living human beings and the community that’s in front of that rock. The way we love our employees, the way we welcome our community, the way we invite our community.”

Well, there's always dynamite.

[Ulysses]

And cannons.

[Ulysses]

[billy.pilgrim]

They could have at least got the name right

https://youtu.be/fm-po_FUmvM

From Wikipedia
Al Kooper, who played keyboards on Blonde on Blonde, recalled that when Dylan initially demoed the song to the backing musicians in Columbia's Nashville studio, producer Bob Johnston suggested that "it would sound great Salvation Army style.[4] When Dylan queried how they would find horn players in the middle of the night, Charlie McCoy, who played trumpet, made a phone call and summoned a trombone player.[4]

The song is essentially a simple blues chord progression in the key of F. The parts played by the trombone, tuba, piano, bass, drums, and tambourine remain practically the same in all of the verses. Much laughter and shouting in the background accompanies the song, mixed down to a low volume level, and Dylan laughs several times during his vocal delivery.

The track was recorded in Columbia Music Row Studios in Nashville in the early hours of March 10, 1966.[5] In the account of Dylan biographer Howard Sounes, the chaotic musical atmosphere of the track was attained by the musicians playing in unorthodox ways and on unconventional instruments. McCoy switched from bass to trumpet. Drummer Kenny Buttrey set up his bass drum on two hard-back chairs and played them using a timpani mallet. Wayne Moss played bass, while Strzelecki played Al Kooper's organ. Kooper played a tambourine.[6] Producer Bob Johnston recalled, "all of us walking around, yelling, playing and singing."[7]

[Ulysses]

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Alice Cooper and Al Kooper are two different persons.

[billy.pilgrim]

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Alice Cooper and Al Kooper are two different persons.

So?

[Ulysses]

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Alice Cooper and Al Kooper are two different persons.

So?

OK, so whose name did they spell wrong?

[Leo Lyons]

Well, there's always dynamite .... And cannons.

So... I have to ask; what's the message, or the point of the post/image?
Are you suggesting that the carving be destroyed in the name of ... what?
There is no message in that sculpturing; it's a part of our history; not a popular time in history, but
nevertheless, it is history.
So much of our history has already been destroyed, thanks namely to Donald J. Trump, who rabidly
re-ignited feelings that for the most part, were beginning to simmer down after decades of inhumanities
to others of different skin color, nationalities, languages, and religious beliefs.
Destroying this image in Stone Mountain, GA would do nothing to improve race relations; the gigantic scar it
would leave on that mountainside would also be a gigantic scar in our history, in our minds, in our attitudes,
and would only serve as a reminder that that hate for those who are different, is still alive and well and
dwelling in the hearts of the supremacist's and low-life's.

FWIW, I don't cotton to the "Back Lives Matter" bullshit, because I look at the number of murders being committed
on Blacks by other Blacks; I DO stand by "All Lives Matter."

[neoplacebo]

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Alice Cooper and Al Kooper are two different persons.

So?

OK, so whose name did they spell wrong?

Nobody's name is spelled wrong. Al Kooper, Mike Bloomfield, and Stephen Stills made a famous album called Super Sessions back in 68 I think it was. The best song on it was Season of the Witch. It's a classic rock record.

[Ulysses]

So... I have to ask; what's the message, or the point of the post/image?
Are you suggesting that the carving be destroyed in the name of ... what?
There is no message in that sculpturing; it's a part of our history; not a popular time in history, but
nevertheless, it is history.
So much of our history has already been destroyed, thanks namely to Donald J. Trump, who rabidly
re-ignited feelings that for the most part, were beginning to simmer down after decades of inhumanities
to others of different skin color, nationalities, languages, and religious beliefs.
Destroying this image in Stone Mountain, GA would do nothing to improve race relations; the gigantic scar it
would leave on that mountainside would also be a gigantic scar in our history, in our minds, in our attitudes,
and would only serve as a reminder that that hate for those who are different, is still alive and well and
dwelling in the hearts of the supremacist's and low-life's.

FWIW, I don't cotton to the "Back Lives Matter" bullshit, because I look at the number of murders being committed
on Blacks by other Blacks; I DO stand by "All Lives Matter."

OK, I doubt we'll ever agree on this.

[neoplacebo]

Well, there's always dynamite .... And cannons.

So... I have to ask; what's the message, or the point of the post/image?
Are you suggesting that the carving be destroyed in the name of ... what?
There is no message in that sculpturing; it's a part of our history; not a popular time in history, but
nevertheless, it is history.
So much of our history has already been destroyed, thanks namely to Donald J. Trump, who rabidly
re-ignited feelings that for the most part, were beginning to simmer down after decades of inhumanities
to others of different skin color, nationalities, languages, and religious beliefs.
Destroying this image in Stone Mountain, GA would do nothing to improve race relations; the gigantic scar it
would leave on that mountainside would also be a gigantic scar in our history, in our minds, in our attitudes,
and would only serve as a reminder that that hate for those who are different, is still alive and well and
dwelling in the hearts of the supremacist's and low-life's.

FWIW, I don't cotton to the "Back Lives Matter" bullshit, because I look at the number of murders being committed
on Blacks by other Blacks; I DO stand by "All Lives Matter."

I agree. Stone Mountain officially opened in 72 or 73 I think. Getting rid of it is impractical just by scale alone. It took decades to finish. That's why it didn't "open" until the 70's. And even if Mt Rushmore were just the asses of those guys I don't think we'd git rid of it. Maybe ridicule it.

I don't agree on the BLM part. The entire movement is just an extension of more than 150 years of wink wink discrimination against blacks in this country. The fact that portions of this current iteration have now and then been violent is not surprising. Change would be surprising. The same thing happened back in the late 60's and early 70's with the leftist Weather Underground, a radical offshoot of SDS (Students for a Democratic Society, co founded by Tom Hayden, who eventually became a US Senator). Those Weathermen threw bombs, killed cops, and generally raised hell. And those were upper middle class white kids. It just goes to show, people can only take so much before things get out of hand. As for your comment about "black on black" murder, consider this: imagine you have a bunch of white dogs and a bunch of black dogs. You feed the white dogs steak every night and you take them out for exercise and you bestow favor on them. But you don't feed the black dogs but every three days, even if it's steak, and you never exercise or interact with them. Eventually the black dogs will turn on each other just out of fucking boredom or jealousy or just for the hell of it. And if they had been treated like the white dogs all along, it would not have happened. And there's always dynamite.

[Vrede too]

Oh, we could probably dredge up some issues to bicker about ...

So... I have to ask; what's the message, or the point of the post/image?
Are you suggesting that the carving be destroyed in the name of ... what?
There is no message in that sculpturing; it's a part of our history; not a popular time in history, but
nevertheless, it is history.
So much of our history has already been destroyed, thanks namely to Donald J. Trump, who rabidly
re-ignited feelings that for the most part, were beginning to simmer down after decades of inhumanities
to others of different skin color, nationalities, languages, and religious beliefs.
Destroying this image in Stone Mountain, GA would do nothing to improve race relations; the gigantic scar it
would leave on that mountainside would also be a gigantic scar in our history, in our minds, in our attitudes,
and would only serve as a reminder that that hate for those who are different, is still alive and well and
dwelling in the hearts of the supremacist's and low-life's.

FWIW, I don't cotton to the "Back Lives Matter" bullshit, because I look at the number of murders being committed
on Blacks by other Blacks; I DO stand by "All Lives Matter."

The implication has always been, "Back Lives Matter, too". It's not like Whites are being slaughtered nor imprisoned in disproportionate numbers by your LEO brethren.

"our history"??? It's a select pseudohistory inspired by butthurt "Lost Cause" wannabe slavers and created with heavy KKK and later Jim Crow defender involvement:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_Mou ... al_Carving
Stone Mountain Park was even officially opened on April 14, 1965—100 years to the day after Lincoln's assassination. THAT is the history it intentionally represents.

Where are the carved mountains memorializing the slaves and honoring their Union Army liberators? Are they not "history", too?
Should Germany carve Hitler mountains?
Should the US military replace the Saddam statues that it tore down?
Should we have govt supported statues of Timothy McVeigh, the Columbine shooters and Typhoid Mary? "History", you know.
No, LOSERS do not deserve to be honored, period.

Stone Mountain, GA already is a "scar" on our national conscience. Why shouldn't ALL Georgians and Americans be able to visit without tacitly supporting slavers, traitors and their hateful worshipers?

[Vrede too]

I agree. Stone Mountain officially opened in 72 or 73 I think. Getting rid of it is impractical just by scale alone. It took decades to finish....

I think you underestimate the effectiveness of dynamite or artillery. It's not like the job has to be surgical. Random destruction will approximate a mountain's natural shape. I'll even bet that it could all be done with private funding.

[neoplacebo]

Opps! I was off on my Stone Mountain date by seven years or so. But, hey, I'm enjoying a relatively static stone right now.

[Vrede too]

Opps! I was off on my Stone Mountain date by seven years or so. But, hey, I'm enjoying a relatively static stone right now.

Not entirely. You may have been thinking of:

... In 1963 Walker Hancock was selected to complete the carving, and work began in 1964. The carving was dedicated in a ceremony on May 9, 1970. The carving was completed by Roy Faulkner on March 3, 1972....

[neoplacebo]

I agree. Stone Mountain officially opened in 72 or 73 I think. Getting rid of it is impractical just by scale alone. It took decades to finish....

I think you underestimate the effectiveness of dynamite or artillery. It's not like the job has to be surgical. Random destruction will approximate a mountain's natural shape. I'll even bet that it could all be done with private funding.

High explosives are very inexact. They just create piles of rubble. The best way to get rid of it would be to have a US military AC-130 gunship make a few passes with its 6,000 rounds per minute Bofors cannons which would render the face of the mountain appear to be random vertical rock surface and create a lot less rubble.

[neoplacebo]

Opps! I was off on my Stone Mountain date by seven years or so. But, hey, I'm enjoying a relatively static stone right now.

Not entirely. You may have been thinking of:

... In 1963 Walker Hancock was selected to complete the carving, and work began in 1964. The carving was dedicated in a ceremony on May 9, 1970. The carving was completed by Roy Faulkner on March 3, 1972....

Well, something to be said for a static stone after all.

[Leo Lyons]

Stone Mountain, GA already is a "scar" on our national conscience. Why shouldn't ALL Georgians and Americans be able to visit without tacitly supporting slavers, traitors and their hateful worshipers?

Stone Mountain, GA is what one sees in it.
Some see what you've described; Jim Crow, oppression, etc.;
others see how far our nation has progressed beyond that time period and what we've left behind.

Then along came a f**king idiot named Dumbal Trump to re-open old wounds and
start the sh*t all over again.

[Ulysses]

Stone Mountain, GA is what one sees in it.
Some see what you've described; Jim Crow, oppression, etc.;
others see how far our nation has progressed beyond that time period and what we've left behind.

Then along came a f**king idiot named Dumbal Trump to re-open old wounds and
start the sh*t all over again.

I agree that Trump is a "f**king idiot".

[neoplacebo]

I was wrong to post that Tom Hayden became a US Senator. He ran a campaign but was never a US Senator. He was a CA state senator, though.