Sedition

[Vrede too]

Yeah, it's too bad that a lot of them didn't turn on each other. Then we could get charges like aggravated assault, murder.....you know, proud boy stuff.

Given that sentences may be light for some, I'm happy that many have been jailed for months pending trial.

‘They’re Running a Jail, Not a Hotel’: Judge Has Had It With Capitol Rioters Alleging Mistreatment



That said, the cult perseveres:

A Capitol riot defendant volunteered to go into solitary confinement, saying he didn't want to stay in 'cult-like' DC jail wing for Jan. 6 suspects

A Capitol riot defendant volunteered to go to solitary confinement because he didn't want to stay in the "cult-like" Washington, DC, jail wing specifically for January 6 suspects, his lawyer said.

Thomas Sibick of Buffalo, New York, has made multiple requests for release from custody since he was arrested in March, arguing that the atmosphere in the wing of the DC Correctional Treatment Facility was "toxic," his lawyer Stephen Brennwald told a court on Tuesday, Law and Crime reported....

There are 44 Capitol riot defendants who are serving time pre-trial in the separate wing of the DC Correctional Treatment Facility, which inmates call the "patriot wing," NBC's Scott MacFarlane reported.

One detainee told NBC 4 that inmates in the wing have their own manifesto and also started their own handwritten newsletter, which they pass from cell to cell.

[neoplacebo]

Why the fuck would he want to leave the patriot wing? I'd advise all those other patriots to be suspicious of Thomas.

Addenda; just finished reading "The Storm is Upon Us; how qanon became a movement, cult, and conspiracy theory of everything" by Mike Rothschild ( not related to the banking family of the same name) but anyway the book details the nutty concept of the whole thing. Turns out Q hasn't made a "drop" since last December according to the book. The last parts of the book were about folks who'd been in it but since seen the error of their ways. I stopped reading that part because I could just tell those people would fall for the next goddamn thing to come down the line.

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I believe that USAF is still the most right-wing service. Idk if it's also the most wingnutty.
O Really?

Don't know about the Air Force but it makes sense that the new "Space Force" may be the most right wing. I recently got in touch with a guy I served with on USS Kilauea (AE-26). He's from TX but now lives in OK. He's a trumper and I've not heard from him since I told him that I think trump should be in jail. So that's at least one Navy guy who's gone over the high side. And then we've got tough guy Eddie Gallagher, Navy SEAL who murdered an unarmed Afghan teenager and was turned in by his own guys and then got pardoned by trump. But then again we've got Navy guy Kelly, the astronaut, who is a new Democratic US Senator in AZ. Plus Admiral McRaven......I think there's a few nutjobs spread around in all the military branches. That's how they roll.

Mormons and other white supremacists love the AF.

I don't know anything about the Air Force. My little section of it was long ago in a galaxy far away and not part of the "real" Air Force. And I don't know anybody who has been in recently, like in the past 3 decades. But I would think the most right wing bunch would be the Marines.

I thought that maybe you'd kept up.

My impressions of the USAF are based on a few scandals, Christian con activities and the AF Academy reputation, but I could be wrong.

Air Force is first to face troops' rejection of vaccine mandate as thousands avoid shots

Up to 12,000 Air Force personnel have rejected orders to get fully vaccinated against the coronavirus despite a Pentagon mandate and officials say it is too late for them to do so by Tuesday's deadline, posing a first major test for military leaders whose August directive has been met with defiance among a segment of the force.

Even so:

The vast majority of active-duty airmen, 96.4%, are at least partially vaccinated, according to data from the Air Force.

Not bad.

But officials have warned that, barring an approved medical or religious exemption, those who defy lawful orders to be fully immunized are subject to punishment, including possible dismissal from the service or they could be charged in the military justice system.

Don't be soft on them.

... Pentagon spokesperson John Kirby said this week that, generally, the number of religious exemptions for any vaccine is "very, very small." The Army, which is the largest military service, has granted just one permanent medical exemption and no religious exemptions for the coronavirus vaccine, officials said. The Navy hasn't granted any religious exemptions for any vaccine - for covid or otherwise - in the past seven years.

Religious objections have centered on the fetal cell lines used in some aspects of vaccine development - essentially reproductions of cells from abortions performed in the 1970s and '80s; the shots themselves don't contain the actual cells. A regimen of numerous vaccines is required upon joining the military and even more if troops are deployed overseas. Some of the required vaccines for diseases like Rubella, chickenpox and hepatitis A also were developed using similar cells.

The wimps are dishonestly exploiting religion and women's healthcare.

... Nearly 87% of active duty troops are fully vaccinated, Kirby said, though hesitancy among military reservists and National Guard members drives down the rate for the entire military to about 68%. The numbers vary widely between service branches, fueled in part by the differing deadlines and cultural reasons, The Post has found.

As vaccination rates rose, so did military deaths attributed to the more infectious delta variant, with 71 covid-related fatalities in the ranks to date. In September, more military personnel died of coronavirus infections than in all of 2020. None who died had been fully vaccinated, said Pentagon spokesman Maj. Charlie Dietz....

Nearly 40 recruits in the Air Force training pipeline were recently forced out for refusing the vaccine, officials said. They were sent home using a discharge method to easily banish recruits who fail to meet standards before officially entering the military.

Airmen who decide to leave the military over the coronavirus vaccine requirement may face similar problems if they want to transition to federal government employment or jobs with government contractors, which are popular draws for veterans but now require immunization as well.

[GoCubsGo]

As vaccination rates rose, so did military deaths attributed to the more infectious delta variant, with 71 covid-related fatalities in the ranks to date. In September, more military personnel died of coronavirus infections than in all of 2020. None who died had been fully vaccinated, said Pentagon spokesman Maj. Charlie Dietz....

Apparently simple math is not a huge prerequisite for the Air Force.

[neoplacebo]

I bet nobody in that new Space Force is vaccinated. Hell, I bet they're even now plotting to somehow get trump and his entire breed off the planet.

[Vrede too]

I bet nobody in that new Space Force is vaccinated. Hell, I bet they're even now plotting to somehow get trump and his entire breed off the planet.

Nttawwt.

Jan. 6 'Influencer' Who Said She's 'Definitely Not Going To Jail' Should Go To Jail, Feds Say

... Moreover, the government said, Ryan’s tweet stating she had “blonde hair white skin a great job a great future and I’m not going to jail” showed she thought she was immune from punishment for her crimes because of her race and physical appearance.

“A defendant who believes she is immune from strict punishment because of her race and physical appearance may reoffend because the consequences for wrongdoing will never, in the defendant’s mind, be severe even when severity is merited,” prosecutors write. “Perhaps the most compelling need for specific deterrence arises from the defendant’s misguided belief that she is above the law, or at least insulated from incarceration.” ...

Definitely lock her up!

[GoCubsGo]

Definitely lock her up!

She'd make a nice bitch for someone.

[neoplacebo]

Definitely lock her up!

She'd make a nice bitch for someone.

Yes, this one needs to be locked up. It's best for everybody. Besides, if left to her own devices, she'd still be the last bitch on the shelf down at Dave's Bitch World. She is a veritable one woman bottleneck.

[Vrede too]

Feds seek tougher sentences for veterans who stormed Capitol

Lock them up longer!

[Vrede too]

Texas Realtor Who Went To D.C. Insurrection Sure Made It Easy For Feds To Identify Her

That's damn helpful of Jennifer Leigh Ryan of Frisco, TX.

Capitol Building Terrorist Jenna Ryan BEGS For Help | The MeidasTouch Podcast

Spoiler:

Jenna Ryan did not get a pardon. Awww.

Jan. 6 'Influencer' Who Said She's 'Definitely Not Going To Jail' Should Go To Jail, Feds Say

Definitely lock her up!

Realtor who flew to the Capitol riot on a private jet and said she wouldn't go to jail because of her 'blonde hair' and 'white skin' gets 60 days behind bars



60 days may be arguably light, but her arrogant, Trumpette "blonde hair white skin" won't have an easy time of it in a DC jail.

[Vrede too]

Trump DOJ official refuses to answer Jan. 6 questions

A Trump-allied former assistant attorney general, who reportedly helped the 45th president amplify false claims around the election, refused on Friday to answer questions in a deposition with the special House panel looking into the Jan. 6 insurrection, AP reports....

What happened: Jeffrey Clark said in a letter to the committee that he would not answer questions based on Trump's executive privilege claim, according to AP....

* Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.), chair of the Jan. 6 committee, told the Hill that contempt charges are "under consideration."

What he's saying: "Mr. Clark’s complete failure to cooperate today is unacceptable," Thompson said in a later statement.

* "It’s astounding that someone who so recently held a position of public trust to uphold the Constitution would now hide behind vague claims of privilege by a former President, refuse to answer questions about an attack on our democracy, and continue an assault on the rule of law."

* "As prescribed by the House Rules, I have considered Mr. Clark’s claim of privilege and rejected it," Thompson added. "We need the information that he is withholding and we are willing to take strong measures to hold him accountable to meet his obligation." ...

The big picture: ...

* More than 60 former lawmakers have signed on to a legal brief asking a federal judge to dismiss Trump's attempts to shield Jan. 6 investigators from probing his White House records.

Lock him up!

Judge Seems Skeptical Of Trump’s Attempt To Cover Up His Role In The Jan. 6 Insurrection

... U.S. District Court Judge Tanya Chutkan wondered what the basis was for even questioning President Joe Biden’s decision to release documents related to the insurrection, given that case law states that the current president is presumed to be acting in the national interest in such matters.

“Isn’t the best person to determine executive privilege the executive?” Chutkan asked Trump lawyer Justin Clark.

Clark answered: “Not the incumbent executive.”

... Trump’s lawyers had argued that a 1974 Supreme Court case regarding Richard Nixon’s attempt to have White House recordings he had made destroyed after he resigned from office gave Trump the right to assert privilege even if Biden refused to do so. But Chutkan pointed out that Congress had superseded that case by passing the Presidential Records Act in 1978, which gives the sitting president the ultimate decision on whether to assert privilege.

“I’m not sure that case is as helpful to you as you think it is,” Chutkan told Clark. She added that Congress seemed to have a legitimate interest in finding out how the insurrection came to be. “The Jan. 6 riot happened in the Capitol. That is literally Congress’ house.”

Clark further argued that Chutkan needed to grant an injunction blocking next week’s scheduled release because Trump would suffer “irreparable harm” if she didn’t. “When those documents are out the door and go to Congress, they are out,” he said.

Chutkan said she agreed that releasing the papers was irreversible, but asked what basis Trump had to keep them secret, given that they are all public records. “We’re talking about documents that are quintessentially about government business. Are we not?” she said. “Where is the harm? Tell me the harm.”

“The harm exists to the institution of the presidency,” Clark responded.

To which Chutkan countered: “Well, the current president disagrees. Shouldn’t that weigh in?”

... Chutkan, who was appointed to the federal bench by former President Barack Obama in 2014, has earned a reputation for seeing the Jan. 6 attack as a serious threat against the United States and has, at times, given harsher sentences to insurrectionists than those recommended by prosecutors.

“There have to be consequences for participating in an attempted violent overthrow of the government, beyond sitting at home,” she said in one case....

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A Capitol riot suspect accused of attacking police during the insurrection fled the country and is now claiming asylum in Belarus

... Evan Neumann, 48, is on the FBI's most-wanted list in connection with the US Capitol riot on January 6.

Neumann faces six charges, including allegations of assaulting officers, obstructing law enforcement, knowingly entering the Capitol without permission, and violent conduct, according to documents filed by the U.S. district court.

But just a month after the court documents were filed, Neumann sold his California house and fled to Ukraine this summer to avoid arrest, ABC News reported....

A Belarus state TV presenter claimed that Neumann is being "persecuted by the U.S. government" in his interview, the Moscow Times reported.

Ummm, any govt will "persecute" someone charged with those crimes. If he can't be extradited maybe a drone? Or, are those only used on Muslim alleged terrorists (and innocent civilians)?

[neoplacebo]

Hell, I hope Rudy doesn't take this case and somehow blame it all on Hunter Biden.

[billy.pilgrim]

21 Republican lawmakers vote against honoring law enforcement for their work during the Jan. 6 Capitol riot

At least my Mad was not as much of an asshole as Lauren Boebert of Colorado, Andrew Clyde of Georgia, Matt Gaetz of Florida, Louie Gohmert of Texas, Paul Gosar of Arizona, Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia, Matt Rosendale of Montana and the others.

A Republican congress(person) refused to shake hands with a DC police officer beaten by Trump loyalists on Jan. 6, according to 2 House members

Guess. Clue: It is one of the 7 that I singled out above because of our personal connections or frequent references to them.

Spoiler:

Andrew Clyde of Georgia

A different one of the 7 that I singled out above because of our frequent references to him.

Sunday:
Gosar's siblings want their brother kicked out of Congress. They think Democrats are moving too slow.
"I consider him a traitor to this country. I consider him a traitor to his family," Dave Gosar said. "He doesn't see it. He's disgraced and dishonored himself."

Okay, but isn't that a little extreme?

Maybe not. Monday evening:
GOP Rep. Paul Gosar to hold fundraiser with white nationalist and Holocaust denier Nick Fuentes

Now Gosar has a video of him killing AOC.

Remember when the comedian did something similar to trump and everyone was outraged?

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Now Gosar has a video of him killing AOC.

Remember when the comedian did something similar to trump and everyone was outraged?

Yeah, Kathy Griffin held up Donald Trump's fake severed head in 2017. It severely damaged her career and:

... She said she was under a federal investigation by the Justice Department for two months and was on the No Fly List during that time. She also said she was put on the Interpol list, the Five Eyes list, and had been detained at every airport during her Laugh Your Head Off World Tour.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathy_Gri ... nald_Trump

Will Gosar suffer any of this? Probably not.

To her credit Griffin was only briefly repentant:

... During an interview on Australian television in August 2017, Griffin talked about the photo, saying, "Stop acting like my little picture is more important than talking about the actual atrocities that the president of the United States is committing". In November 2017, she appeared on Skavlan, where she said, "I take that apology back by the way. I take it back big time". Griffin said she had received a lot of bad advice at the time.

On November 4, 2020 (her 60th birthday and the day after the 2020 United States presidential election), Griffin once again posted a photo of her posing with a model of Donald Trump's bloody, decapitated head.

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Trump aides Stephen Miller, Kayleigh McEnany subpoenaed by House panel investigating Jan. 6

Good. Testimony or jail = win/win.

[billy.pilgrim]

Trump aides Stephen Miller, Kayleigh McEnany subpoenaed by House panel investigating Jan. 6

Good. Testimony or jail = win/win.

Or more likely = wtf, why didn't anyone go to jail

[Vrede too]

Or more likely = wtf, why didn't anyone go to jail

Could be. A lot of it will be up to Garland. Idk what to think of him yet.

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Capitol rioter who hit officer gets over 3 years in prison

A New Jersey gym owner who punched a police officer during the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was sentenced Wednesday to more than three years in prison, a likely benchmark for dozens of other rioters who engaged in violence that day.

Scott Fairlamb, 44, was the first person to be sentenced for assaulting a law enforcement officer during the Capitol riot. His 41-month prison term is the longest among 32 riot-related sentences handed down so far.

Fairlamb’s punishment likely will guide other judges who sentence rioters who clashed with police at the Capitol. U.S. District Judge Royce Lamberth said it was significant that his sentencing of Fairlamb was the first for assaulting an officer, with more guilty pleas likely in the coming months.

Lamberth said Fairlamb's actions struck at “the heart of our democracy.” He had pleaded guilty, avoiding a trial....

Fairlamb joined a group of rioters who pushed through a line of police officers and metal barricades on the Capitol's West Terrace. He recorded a video of himself shouting, “What (do) patriots do? We f——— disarm them and then we storm the f——— Capitol!”

Fairlamb carried a police baton into the Capitol, then left the building and approached several Metropolitan Police Department officers, screaming as he followed them. Fairlamb shoved one of the officers and punched his face shield.

The officer wasn't injured but described Jan. 6 as the scariest day of his career, Assistant U.S. Attorney Leslie Goemaat told the judge.

Two days after the riot, Fairlamb said on a video that “they pulled the pin on the grenade, and the blackout is coming. What a time to be a patriot,” according to prosecutors.

Fairlamb pleaded guilty to obstruction of an official proceeding and assaulting the police officer....

Defense attorney Harley Breite asked for Fairlamb to be sentenced to 11 months imprisonment, about how long he has been jailed since his Jan. 22 arrest at his home in Stockholm, New Jersey.

Fairlamb owned Fairlamb Fit gym in Pompton Lakes, New Jersey, but it closed after his arrest. He is the brother of a Secret Service agent who was assigned to protect former first lady Michelle Obama, according to Breite.

Fairlamb’s social media posts indicate that he subscribed to the QAnon conspiracy theory and promoted a bogus claim that former President Donald Trump would become the first president of “the new Republic” on March 4, prosecutors said.

Fairlamb feels that he was “duped by social media,” his lawyer said in a court filing.

“Epiphanies are rare but it certainly didn’t take Mr. Fairlamb long to realize that his previous line of thinking was incorrect,” Breite wrote....

Over 650 people have been charged with federal crimes related to the Jan. 6 riot, including more than 100 accused of assaulting law enforcement officers. More than 120 defendants have pleaded guilty, mostly to misdemeanors that carry a maximum of six months imprisonment.

Before Fairlamb's sentencing, the longest sentence for a Capitol rioter was eight months, for a Florida man who breached the Senate chamber carrying a Trump campaign flag. A Texas man who posted threats connected to Jan. 6 but didn’t storm the Capitol was sentenced to 14 months in prison....

They locked him up!

Senior judge of the United States District Court for the District of Columbia Royce Lamberth was appointed by Ronald Reagan.



Capitol Riot suspect in tears at sentencing

Actually not yet "sentencing". He just plead guilty. Sentencing will be in mid Dec.

Either way, the tears of Trumpette traitors are delicious!

Robert Palmer, 54, of Tampa admitted in U.S. District Court on Monday that he was the man wearing a red, white and blue “Trump” jacket while attacking police protecting the entrance to the Lower West Terrace of the US Capitol January 6.

Palmer told U.S. District Court Judge Tanya Chutkan he was the one identified in Department of Justice images who threw a wooden plank at police, sprayed a fire extinguisher at officers until it was empty and then threw the empty fire extinguisher canister at the line of police.

Before his court hearing, Palmer displayed a different bearing than the man captured in images from the riot – sobbing onto the shoulder of his defense attorney Bjorn Brunvand moments before the two men entered the court for Palmer to plead guilty to felony assault on law enforcement.

Also over 3 years in prison?

[O Really]

Yeah but if he hangs out with the Aryan Bros to keep from getting his ass kicked by the Black Guerillas or the Nuestra Familia, he'll probably come out worse than he went in. Or maybe he'll just come out feet first. No problem with that.