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It's a little iffy duct taping a guy that has a knife ;) . Spike strip otoh . . .
Tucson Police Fire Officer; Video Shows Fatal Shooting of Shoplifting Suspect in Wheelchair

... When a Walmart loss prevention employee followed Richards outside of the store and asked him for his toolbox receipt, Richards reportedly pulled out a knife and said, "Here's my receipt," police said. The employee then contacted police....

Remington's lawyer, Mike Storie, argued that Remington had no "non-lethal options" when engaging Richards.

"He did have a taser, but in his mind, he couldn't use it because he didn't feel he had the proper spread to deploy it, with the wheelchair between him and Richards," Storie said....
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Vrede too wrote:
Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:15 am
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Duct tape
It's a little iffy duct taping a guy that has a knife ;) . Spike strip otoh . . .
Tucson Police Fire Officer; Video Shows Fatal Shooting of Shoplifting Suspect in Wheelchair


"He did have a taser, but in his mind, he couldn't use it because he didn't feel he had the proper spread to deploy it, with the wheelchair between him and Richards," Storie said....
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He could've gotten in his car, lights and sirens blaring and driven in front of the wheelchair and deployed the taser....
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Vrede too wrote:
Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:15 am
billy.pilgrim wrote:
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Duct tape
It's a little iffy duct taping a guy that has a knife ;) . Spike strip otoh . . .
Tucson Police Fire Officer; Video Shows Fatal Shooting of Shoplifting Suspect in Wheelchair

... When a Walmart loss prevention employee followed Richards outside of the store and asked him for his toolbox receipt, Richards reportedly pulled out a knife and said, "Here's my receipt," police said. The employee then contacted police....

Remington's lawyer, Mike Storie, argued that Remington had no "non-lethal options" when engaging Richards.

"He did have a taser, but in his mind, he couldn't use it because he didn't feel he had the proper spread to deploy it, with the wheelchair between him and Richards," Storie said....
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No, you're as bad a the cop. Get creative, you construct a duct tape web at the doorway. After he's stuck, you just roll him up, knife, chair and all.

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Eastern Kentucky sheriff arrested after fight at a girls’ high school basketball game

Is a Republican.
Hit a girl.
Cowered from accountability for days.
Tracked down, arrested and jailed by another county.

I'd say that it will be hard to live down, but it is eastern Kentucky.
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I'd say that it will be hard to live down, but it is eastern Kentucky.
Also known as a fun Friday night.
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Also known as a fun Friday night.
:thumbup: Come to think of it an LEO and/or a RepuQ behind bars is fun for me, too.
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Testimony Wraps In Trial of California Ex-Cop Charged with Lying About His Arrest of Black Man Minding His Business While Waiting for Friends: ‘I Was Not Free to Leave’

The trial of a former suburban San Diego police officer who is facing felony charges of falsely documenting a controversial 2020 arrest finished its closing arguments on Wednesday, Dec. 8. The trial began more than 18 months after viral videos first showed an encounter that began with the cop mistaking a cellphone for a cigarette.

On May 27, 2020, La Mesa, California, police officer Matthew Dages approached Amaurie Johnson as the 29-year-old Black man was standing outside of an apartment building waiting for some friends to come out and join him....
Lock the fired cop up and settle the civil suit. I'm shocked by the colors of the victim and the lying pig:

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Speaking of lying pigs:
North Carolina Man Awarded $6 Million After Federal Jury Finds Detective Completely Made Up Story That Led to His 1995 Conviction

A federal jury awarded $6 million to a North Carolina man earlier this month who spent 20 years in prison for wrongful murder and arson convictions.

Darryl Howard, originally sentenced to 80 years in prison for the 1991 murders of Doris Washington, 29, and her 13-year-old daughter Nishonda, walked free in 2016 after a Durham County judge vacated the sentence, citing prosecutorial misconduct.

“I am happy about the verdict, but I am kind of upset about the damages,” Howard told the News & Observer. The $6 million he says is barely enough considering his pain and suffering, “Just imagine, 23 years I stayed in prison.”
$261K per year. Lock up the pig and prosecutor. In this case the victim and the lying pig are both Black.
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Watched a few minutes of the Kim Potter trial, she's on the stand and a crying remorseful mess.

Why is there even a trial? Seems like this should've been plea deal.
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Watched a few minutes of the Kim Potter trial, she's on the stand and a crying remorseful mess.

Why is there even a trial? Seems like this should've been plea deal.
I heard that explained on TV. Everyone agrees that it was a mistake. The issue at hand is whether her use of any force was reckless. I can't describe it further, I wasn't paying that close attention.

Despite being pretty anti-cop I don't have an opinion. I'd have to listen to more of the testimony and discussion than I'm willing to invest.
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Watched a few minutes of the Kim Potter trial, she's on the stand and a crying remorseful mess.

Why is there even a trial? Seems like this should've been plea deal.
I heard that explained on TV. Everyone agrees that it was a mistake. The issue at hand is whether her use of any force was reckless. I can't describe it further, I wasn't paying that close attention.

Despite being pretty anti-cop I don't have an opinion. I'd have to listen to more of the testimony and discussion than I'm willing to invest.
The facts certainly aren't in question. I guess my point is how is society better served with her in prison? It was a tragic, stupid, panicky mistake, she's beside herself with remorse, her life is ruined, it's not going to bring the deceased back nor deter any future tragic mistakes.
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I have no doubt it was an accident. I don't know if jail is appropriate, but in her position it was clearly negligent. I've never been in favor of the "opps" defence when somebody is shot dead.

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Fri Dec 17, 2021 2:44 pm
Watched a few minutes of the Kim Potter trial, she's on the stand and a crying remorseful mess.

Why is there even a trial? Seems like this should've been plea deal.
I heard that explained on TV. Everyone agrees that it was a mistake. The issue at hand is whether her use of any force was reckless. I can't describe it further, I wasn't paying that close attention.

Despite being pretty anti-cop I don't have an opinion. I'd have to listen to more of the testimony and discussion than I'm willing to invest.
The facts certainly aren't in question. I guess my point is how is society better served with her in prison? It was a tragic, stupid, panicky mistake, she's beside herself with remorse, her life is ruined, it's not going to bring the deceased back nor deter any future tragic mistakes.
Or she goes one County over,
Or one state,
Or moves to Florida as part of our new DeSant-force.
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I have no doubt it was an accident. I don't know if jail is appropriate, but in her position it was clearly negligent. I've never been in favor of the "opps" defence when somebody is shot dead.
Which kind of brings it full circle. Some punishment is neccessary, maybe house arrest with a heavy dose of community service? Whatever, seems like it could have been hashed out outside of the courtroom but I guess I'm not factoring in politics especially considering where and when this happened and the need for the appearance of the DA to be "doing something."
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Perhaps prison would be too harsh a punishment for the cop.

However it does seem to bring up another issue: making the feel and heft of a taser gun such that it would be much less likely to be mistaken for a real gun, and vice verse. And better training for those allowed to carry both at once. I watched the bit on the evening news tonight; she is clearly repentant and devastated by her mistake. I wonder what the victim's family thinks. And I don't know if she's been tossed off the force, but that would be appropriate along with a lifetime ban on her ever serving as an armed law enforcement officer.

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I dunno. After reading about the Tucson incident (murder, really), I'm going to be a LOT more careful what I say and do around a police occifer. Not that I get much of that interaction anyway. Used to meet up with them a lot more when I was a motorcyclist. They seem to get attracted to bikes like flies to shit. Of course, the shit was usually speeding, but still...

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Perhaps prison would be too harsh a punishment for the cop.

However it does seem to bring up another issue: making the feel and heft of a taser gun such that it would be much less likely to be mistaken for a real gun, and vice verse. And better training for those allowed to carry both at once. I watched the bit on the evening news tonight; she is clearly repentant and devastated by her mistake. I wonder what the victim's family thinks. And I don't know if she's been tossed off the force,
but that would be appropriate along with a lifetime ban on her ever serving as an armed law enforcement officer.
As billy.pilgrim suggests, one jurisdiction has no say over what another one does. A felony conviction will often prevent a LEO from getting hired elsewhere, but not always, and anything less, no matter how egregious the incident, is not an impediment to finding a job somewhere. :problem:
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Vrede too wrote:
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Fri Dec 17, 2021 2:44 pm
Watched a few minutes of the Kim Potter trial, she's on the stand and a crying remorseful mess.
Why is there even a trial? Seems like this should've been plea deal.
I heard that explained on TV. Everyone agrees that it was a mistake. The issue at hand is whether her use of any force was reckless.
I can't describe it further, I wasn't paying that close attention.
A DA on a crusade; trying to pin a murder rap due to improper training or simple negligence on the cop.
Makes for great Brownie points come election time.
Why oh why do people nowadays have to fight, struggle, and curse when confronted by law enforcement . . .
That's all I'm saying on this thread.

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A DA on a crusade; trying to pin a murder rap due to improper training or simple negligence on the cop.
Not "murder".
Makes for great Brownie points come election time.
Maybe rephrase that? ;) Idk what the electoral effect of an acquittal would be. Anyhow, Minnesota attorney general Keith Ellison is not up for reelection until 2023, so I'm not sure how much impact this case 2 years earlier will have. Plus, as a Black Muslim progressive member of the Democratic–Farmer–Labor Party I don't think he needs to worry about appeasing the Left. For better or worse I think he believes that this prosecution is warranted.
Why oh why do people nowadays have to fight, struggle, and curse when confronted by law enforcement . . .
That's all I'm saying on this thread.
Again, I'm not opining on this case, but we have learned that a lot of so-called resisting was really just cop lies after they've been brutal.
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Again, I'm not opining on this case, but we have learned that a lot of so-called resisting was really just cop lies after they've been brutal.
It's both. Go to YouTube and look at sovereign citizens or first amendment auditors being arrested. It's freaking nuts what these people do over minor shit like a traffic stop.
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Again, I'm not opining on this case, but we have learned that a lot of so-called resisting was really just cop lies after they've been brutal.
It's both. Go to YouTube and look at sovereign citizens or first amendment auditors being arrested. It's freaking nuts what these people do over minor shit like a traffic stop.
I didn't mean to imply otherwise. All types do resist cops, often foolishly.
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