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billy.pilgrim wrote:
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Where's Merrick?
The FBI did just arrest Beddingfield for Jan 6, so we can assume that a DoJ prosecution will follow.
As he ploddingly avoids easily proven crime after crime committed by Trump and family while waiting for ... what? -
a majority trump party in congress &
his chance to prosecute Fauci?
or just playing nice like Obama did with cheney war crimes?

What a lousy pick for AG - Milk-toast Merrick

Obama and Pelosi ignoring the cheney/Bush war crimes probably signaled to republicans that, unlike republicons, dems in congress don't prosecute politicians.
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neoplacebo wrote:
Wed Feb 09, 2022 4:49 pm
billy.pilgrim wrote:
Wed Feb 09, 2022 4:41 pm
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Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:39 am
billy.pilgrim wrote:
Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:33 am
Where's Merrick?
The FBI did just arrest Beddingfield for Jan 6, so we can assume that a DoJ prosecution will follow.
As he ploddingly avoids easily proven crime after crime committed by Trump and family while waiting for ... what? -
a majority trump party in congress &
his chance to prosecute Fauci?
or just playing nice like Obama did with cheney war crimes?

What a lousy pick for AG - Milk-toast Merrick

Obama and Pelosi ignoring the cheney/Bush war crimes probably signaled to republicans that, unlike republicons, dems in congress don't prosecute politicians.
The show ain't over yet. It's not even halftime.
Well see. I don't think there's going to be a prosecution that matters.

The 1/6 committee has referred crimes to the doj for prosecution, but Merrick is silent.

There was plenty of hard evidence openly available on Merrick's 1st day.

He's a damn die-hard closet republicon, just like muller.
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I guess we'll see what we'll see. They just subpoenaed Peter Navarro, who has never in his life been right about anything. It's possible he'll break down in a pathetic whining tearful heap and confess his and others fascist fantasies. We will just have to wait. I have faith Peter will fuck up.

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billy.pilgrim wrote:
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The 1/6 committee has referred crimes to the doj for prosecution, but Merrick is silent.

There was plenty of hard evidence openly available on Merrick's 1st day.

He's a damn die-hard closet republicon, just like muller.
If I'm not mistaken, the only referrals to DOJ so far are for contempt of Congress charges for ignoring subpoenas.
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Someone may be feeling a little pressured.

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Cheetohead just doubled the amount of troops he didn't order.

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How do we know that the RNC are traitors? When even Moscow Mitch scolds them for it:
For example, notice that he fails to mention Dolt .45 or treasonous members of Congress like Mad Caw.

... FU, Kevin McCarthy of CALIFORNIA.
Judge rebukes RNC's 'legitimate political discourse' language at Jan. 6 sentencing

A federal judge on Thursday directly rebuked the Republican National Committee's resolution that declared the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol "legitimate political discourse" as she sentenced a man convicted of punching two officers during the assault to six months in prison.

"It is not 'legitimate political discourse,' and it is not justified to descend on the nation's Capitol at the direction of a disappointed candidate and disrupt the electoral process," said D.C. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson before she sentenced Mark Leffingwell, a disabled former Marine from Washington state. "Cancelling out the votes of other people with a show force is the opposite of what America stands for."

On top of his jail time, Leffingwell, 52, who suffered a traumatic brain injury while serving in the Army National Guard in Iraq, also faces two years probation, $2,000 in restitution charges and 200 hours of community service. He pleaded guilty to assaulting, resisting or impeding officers in October....

But in sobering and extensive remarks, Jackson said there was a need to deter would-be rioters from doing the same as Leffingwell did.

"The heated rhetoric that got you riled up and brought you to Washington D.C. has not subsided," Jackson said. "The lie that the election was stolen and illegitimate is still being perpetrated. Indeed, it is being amplified, not only on social media, but on mainstream news outlets, and worse, it's become heresy for a member of the former president's party to say otherwise. So, it needs to be crystal clear that it is not patriotism. It is not standing up for America." ...
:---P Leffingwell.
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I wonder how much of the current trouble between Russia and Ukraine is due to Trump's ass-kissing of Putin.

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This is just bizarre.

Lock him up!

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Awww. :violin: , Useless. So much for "Ignored". You fail again. Plus, Useless, you've been busted too many times for anyone to believe you're not reading my posts, anyhow. It's just your excuse for cowering. Awww.
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GoCubsGo wrote:
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This is just bizarre.

Lock him up!
But but but Mark Meadows is white.
It’s too bad Garland thinks he’s above the law.
So far, voter fraud seems to be committed by the R's. Any cases of deliberate, verified D voter fraud being reported?
Quick someone wake up the AG!
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Vrede too wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 12:53 pm
GoCubsGo wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 11:57 am
This is just bizarre.

Lock him up!
But but but Mark Meadows is white.
It’s too bad Garland thinks he’s above the law.
So far, voter fraud seems to be committed by the R's. Any cases of deliberate, verified D voter fraud being reported?
Quick someone wake up the AG!
Some voter registration problems have sent 2 black people to prison for 5 and 6 years.

The republicans in the old people town of The Villages actually did vote multiple times. They were arrested - we'll see.

Hey, by the way, the Florida Senate passed Ron's new bill yesterday to create the Florida Election Police.
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Unless the Florida Election Police will come and take me to the polling place, or take me to sixty five different places to get the same number of identification documents, what the fuck good are they?

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Unless the Florida Election Police will come and take me to the polling place, or take me to sixty five different places to get the same number of identification documents, what the fuck good are they?
They are there to be scary. Starting in 2000, jeb had 10+ cops at every polling place. It did have an effect. Ron is just making political points.
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
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Sun Mar 06, 2022 3:34 pm
Unless the Florida Election Police will come and take me to the polling place, or take me to sixty five different places to get the same number of identification documents, what the fuck good are they?
They are there to be scary. Starting in 2000, jeb had 10+ cops at every polling place. It did have an effect. Ron is just making political points.
Well, in that case, I would advise everybody in FL who votes to wear a cop costume while standing in line. DO NOT say that you're a cop. Just act like one. I think that may put a damper on this.

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Jury finds Jan. 6 rioter Guy Reffitt guilty on all charges

A Washington jury on Tuesday found Guy Wesley Reffitt guilty on all five counts relating to his role in the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the U.S. Capitol, verdicts that could land him in prison for decades.

The jury reached its decision in less than four hours after being sent the case. The guilty verdicts are a major victory for the federal prosecutors who tried Reffitt, the first Jan. 6 defendant to go to trial, and are seen as likely to influence how other defendants may seek to handle their own cases going forward.
It may also inspire prosecutors to demand more time in plea negotiations?
Reffitt, 49, is an alleged antigovernment militia member from Texas who prosecutors said went to the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 armed with a handgun, wearing body armor and carrying flex cuffs, sought to disrupt the certification of the 2020 presidential election. Reffitt led the way for other members of the mob who ultimately stormed the building, prosecutors said, then later threatened his own children to try to keep them from turning him in to law enforcement.

Reffitt had been charged with four counts relating to his activities on Jan. 6: obstructing an official proceeding; interfering with law enforcement during a civil disorder; transporting firearms to Washington, D.C., for a civil disorder; and being unlawfully present on Capitol grounds while armed with a firearm. Prosecutors also charged Reffitt with obstruction of justice based on threats he allegedly made to his teenage son and daughter upon returning to his Texas home from Washington, telling them to “choose a side or die” and that they would be traitors if they reported him to law enforcement. He had pleaded not guilty to all five charges....

Prosecutors sought to portray Reffitt as a key instigator of the “worst assault on the Capitol since the War of 1812.”

“The defendant was the tip of this mob’s spear,” Nestler told jurors during his opening statement last week. “He lit the match that started the fire.”

Prosecutors sought to use Reffitt’s own words against him, pairing witness testimony with text messages he allegedly sent and recordings of alleged statements he made before and after the Jan. 6 attack.
Yep, Trumpettes are idiots.
William Welch, Reffett’s court-appointed defense attorney
Hah, a Trumpette got a welfare lawyer.
... In his closing argument on Monday, Welch suggested that neither his client nor any of the government’s other witnesses or evidence could be trusted,
:D You get what you pay for.
and urged jurors “find Mr. Reffitt guilty of count 3a,” being in a restricted area outside the Capitol, but nothing else. If found guilty for being in a restricted area, without the weapons enhancement, Reffitt would have only faced a maximum penalty of one year in prison, which he has already served in pretrial detention. The maximum penalty for unlawfully carrying a firearm in a restricted area is 10 years.
Lock him up.
Prosecutors also played several clips of Reffitt’s own video footage from Jan. 6, which had been shot with a 360-degree camera attached to the front of his helmet, and recovered from an external hard drive the FBI had seized during a search of his house. One of the videos played for the jury last week showed a crowd of people gathered at the Ellipse, as songs like “Tiny Dancer” and “Gloria,” staples of former President Donald Trump’s campaign rally playlist, blared in the background. In it, a voice which the government said was Reffitt’s, can be heard saying over and over to the people around him that he planned to go to the Capitol “before the day is over.”

“I just want to see [House Speaker Nancy] Pelosi’s head hit every f***ing stair on the way out ... and [Senate Minority Leader] Mitch McConnell too,” the voice says at one point. At another: “I’m packing heat and I’m going to get more heat.”

The comments echo messages prosecutors say Reffitt sent about his plans for Jan. 6 in a family text chain, and in a Texas Three Percenters far-right militia group Telegram chat, where he went by the username “Call to Arms.”
Yep, Trumpettes are idiots.
At one point, Welch indicated that he would try to accuse the government of tampering with evidence when he raised the concept of “deep fakes” in his cross examination of the FBI special agent who testified about the videos found on Reffitt’s hard drive. The agent replied that she saw no evidence that any changes had been made to the videos.
You get what you pay for.
Arguably the most emotional moment in the trial came during the second day of witness testimony on Thursday, when Reffitt’s 19-year-old son Jackson took the stand, eliciting tears from the otherwise composed defendant....

Jackson said his father “constantly” had his handgun holstered to his hip, or on the nightstand next to his bed, and he often walked around the house wearing a bulletproof vest....

When Reffett returned home to Texas after Jan. 6, Jackson decided to record his father using an app on his cell phone, as he boasted to the family about his actions at the Capitol.

“I was afraid if nobody actually believed me, and if my father had done what he’s saying, it’s better his word against mine,” Jackson explained. In the recording, which was played for jurors during Jackson’s testimony, the older Reffitt can be heard describing about how he’d led a crowd of rioters up the steps of the Capitol and withstood several rounds of pepper balls from U.S. Capitol Police, before being sprayed in the face with bear spray and forced to retreat.

“I didn’t make it in, but I started the fire,” Reffitt said in one part of the recording. “I was willing to die when I was there. I was willing to die.”

Reffitt also repeatedly stated that he was armed during the riot, saying, “I had every Constitutional right to carry a weapon and take over the Congress.”
Were you "willing to" go to prison for a long time, which the government has "every Constitutional right to" do to you?
Jackson was particularly disturbed when, during the recorded conversation, his father told him that Jan. 6 was just the “preface” of what was to come.

“January 6 was already so bad,” he said. “That could just be the beginning, to hear my father say that, was scary. It was scary.”

A few days later — after a heated conversation in which Jackson said his dad threatened to shoot him and his sister if they reported him to authorities — the younger Reffitt met with an FBI agent.
Yep, another "family values" con.
... Reffett’s words also took on new meaning after Jan. 6 for Rocky Hardie, a former member of the Texas Three Percenters who drove with Reffitt from Texas to Washington last year with their rifles and handguns in tow.
Trumpettes are rats.
... The morning of Jan. 6, Hardie said that he and Reffitt reassembled their rifles in their hotel room — for easy access in case of violence from antifa activists —
Trumpettes are paranoid wimps.
and strapped on their handguns and body armor before heading to Trump’s rally at the Ellipse. He said Reffitt also gave him zip ties — “the real big heavy ones you use as handcuffs”— which he says Reffitt told him they were for “in case we need to detain anybody.”
Trumpettes are assholes.
... Since his arrest in late January of last year, Reffitt has been in custody at the Washington, D.C., jail.
Nice.
... Before the start of his trial late last month, a statement attributed to Reffitt was posted on a Telegram channel called “J6 Patriot News,” which read: “I am prepared to stare down the barrel of tyranny to receive the bullet of freedom.”
:headscratch: Gibberish, and "freedom" ain't what he'll be sentenced to.
... “My deepest apologies to everyone, most of all my family, for the atrocious language in those audio and video clips,” read the post.
Good, but then:
“If I can be convicted for having a foul mouth, I was never truly a free man…”
:roll: Trumpettes are perpetual victims.
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He wasn't convicted for a foul mouth. Hell, I can testify that I've had one for decades, used it moderately, and never once thought I wasn't free. This guy is a whiny ass bitch pretending to be something else. Disconnect.

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neoplacebo wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 5:06 pm
He wasn't convicted for a foul mouth. Hell, I can testify that I've had one for decades, used it moderately, and never once thought I wasn't free. This guy is a whiny ass bitch pretending to be something else. Disconnect.
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Same thing as was attempted to disqualify MadCaw:
Wisconsin lawsuit accuses 3 GOP congressmen of insurrection

Wisconsin liberals on Thursday filed a federal lawsuit alleging that Republican Sen. Ron Johnson (the johnson) and two other GOP congressmen are insurrectionists in violation of the U.S. Constitution for their words and actions in support of Donald Trump leading up to the riot at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

The lawsuit, alleging a violation of the “Disqualification Clause” of the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, says Johnson and U.S. Reps. Tom Tiffany and Scott Fitzgerald conspired to undermine President Joe Biden's victory and sow public distrust of the outcome.

That clause was enacted after the Civil War to prevent congressmen who had fought on the Confederate side from returning to Congress. It prohibits anyone from holding federal office who has taken an oath to protect the Constitution but has also “engaged in insurrection” against the United States or “given aid or comfort” to its enemies....
I have no idea whether it will fly legally, but miring these pigs in having to defend themselves against charges of being Constitution-hating insurrectionists and illegitimate officeholders can only be a good thing.
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Vrede too wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:33 am
neoplacebo wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 5:06 pm
He wasn't convicted for a foul mouth. Hell, I can testify that I've had one for decades, used it moderately, and never once thought I wasn't free. This guy is a whiny ass bitch pretending to be something else. Disconnect.
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Same thing as was attempted to disqualify MadCaw:
Wisconsin lawsuit accuses 3 GOP congressmen of insurrection

Wisconsin liberals on Thursday filed a federal lawsuit alleging that Republican Sen. Ron Johnson (the johnson) and two other GOP congressmen are insurrectionists in violation of the U.S. Constitution for their words and actions in support of Donald Trump leading up to the riot at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

The lawsuit, alleging a violation of the “Disqualification Clause” of the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, says Johnson and U.S. Reps. Tom Tiffany and Scott Fitzgerald conspired to undermine President Joe Biden's victory and sow public distrust of the outcome.

That clause was enacted after the Civil War to prevent congressmen who had fought on the Confederate side from returning to Congress. It prohibits anyone from holding federal office who has taken an oath to protect the Constitution but has also “engaged in insurrection” against the United States or “given aid or comfort” to its enemies....
I have no idea whether it will fly legally, but miring these pigs in having to defend themselves against charges of being Constitution-hating insurrectionists and illegitimate officeholders can only be a good thing.
:lol: Johnson should be disqualified just on general principle; he's an ignorant moron who'd probably call a helicopter to come rescue him from a flat tire, I suspect those other two Useless dipshits are just as bad or worse. Wisconsin.....hell in a bucket. I hope Scott Walker is dead somewhere. His Foxconn boondoggle will cost generations of WI folks for pretty much nothing.

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