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Reading between the lines of Cawthorns latest tweet where he mentions these leaks being part of a "drip drip" campaign, Madison seems to be implying there's even more secrets coming down the line.
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This MAY be the worst of it. Just 12 days until the primary and early voting has been going on for a week. Of course, the Dems may have their own stash of vids should MadCaw advance.
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Re: Cawthorn
What's his chances looking like? Isn't he your representative?
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Not a whole lot of polling.
GoCubsGo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:01 pm
Trending lower....
Hope the Dems are taking copious notes (FWIW).
Poll: Cawthorn has 'substantial' Republican primary decline; still 18 points over Edwards
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Excuse me?
How is it that there is zero local coverage of this?
That is freaking bizarre.
https://wlos.com/
https://www.blueridgenow.com/
https://www.citizen-times.com/
How is it that there is zero local coverage of this?
That is freaking bizarre.
https://wlos.com/
https://www.blueridgenow.com/
https://www.citizen-times.com/
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Most everybody has done stupid things they'd prefer didn't show up on YouTube, but Cawthorn seems particularly prone to salacious stuff - much of which was before he was elected. Do we know how he actually got in the position to be elected? Who picks somebody like him to push for Congress, particularly in an area totally infested with solid right-wing potential candidates?
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He was the people's pick, charismatic ( ) with a compelling backstory who said the right things.O Really wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 10:45 amMost everybody has done stupid things they'd prefer didn't show up on YouTube, but Cawthorn seems particularly prone to salacious stuff - much of which was before he was elected. Do we know how he actually got in the position to be elected? Who picks somebody like him to push for Congress, particularly in an area totally infested with solid right-wing potential candidates?
He overcame trump and Meadow's endorsement of a primary opponent.
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I'm sorry, my mind is blown that there is zero coverage of this in WNC.
The only wlos and Citizen Times mention about Cawthorn.
The only wlos and Citizen Times mention about Cawthorn.
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Re: Cawthorn
"He was the people's pick..."GoCubsGo wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 10:48 amHe was the people's pick, charismatic ( ) with a compelling backstory who said the right things.O Really wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 10:45 amMost everybody has done stupid things they'd prefer didn't show up on YouTube, but Cawthorn seems particularly prone to salacious stuff - much of which was before he was elected. Do we know how he actually got in the position to be elected? Who picks somebody like him to push for Congress, particularly in an area totally infested with solid right-wing potential candidates?
He overcame trump and Meadow's endorsement of a primary opponent.
Them's some major league stupid people. At the very least the "people" should have picked somebody who'd had at least one real job.
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Well, yeah.O Really wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 11:11 am"He was the people's pick..."GoCubsGo wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 10:48 amHe was the people's pick, charismatic ( ) with a compelling backstory who said the right things.O Really wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 10:45 amMost everybody has done stupid things they'd prefer didn't show up on YouTube, but Cawthorn seems particularly prone to salacious stuff - much of which was before he was elected. Do we know how he actually got in the position to be elected? Who picks somebody like him to push for Congress, particularly in an area totally infested with solid right-wing potential candidates?
He overcame trump and Meadow's endorsement of a primary opponent.
Them's some major league stupid people. At the very least the "people" should have picked somebody who'd had at least one real job.
25 years old, already a proven liar (the navy, his real estate company and more) before the election, no real job, no education......it's a long list.
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Speaking of Drain the Swamp!
These guys are incompetent at being corrupt.
Madison Cawthorn May Have a New Ethics Violation to Handle
Overpaying a staff member hardly seems like Rep. Madison Cawthorn’s biggest scandal these days, but a Daily Beast investigation into Cawthorn’s compensation for his chief of staff reveals a cut-and-dried ethics violation—one his office appears to have tried (and failed) to skirt.
These guys are incompetent at being corrupt.
Madison Cawthorn May Have a New Ethics Violation to Handle
Overpaying a staff member hardly seems like Rep. Madison Cawthorn’s biggest scandal these days, but a Daily Beast investigation into Cawthorn’s compensation for his chief of staff reveals a cut-and-dried ethics violation—one his office appears to have tried (and failed) to skirt.
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Not to keep beating a dead horse (although beating a dead one is better than beating a live one), but let's consider:
Voters in WNC "hired" a 25 year old guy with one semester of college, and no employment record for a job as Member of Congress, whose responsibilities are to represent the area's interests in creating law for affecting 350mill people in the United States. Paraphrasing from a "job description," "...this person will be expected to participate in committees that make decisions or recommend action on matters of national finance, national defence, and expenditures of a trillion-dollar budget." (etc.) Compensation for this position is $175,000 per year, plus various travel and office allowances, and benefits including paid healthcare and retirement.
For comparison:
A recent graduate from a good law school would generally expect less than $100,000 first year, with the only ones meeting or exceeding the Congressional pay would be a top-of-the-class grad from (e.g.) Harvard who started at the most elite of firms in NYC. And in any case, the first year associate is given mostly grunt work (at about 60 hours/week) without much real responsibility.
A recent graduate in software engineering could expect first-year pay in the $80-90's with a large national company.
An MBA accounting graduate from a good school will get paid first-year about $60K in a major accounting firm, be treated like crap and do audit work for 60 hours a week. If with the MBA and about 7 years experience, if s/he lasts there and makes partner, s/he'll finally get paid about the same as Maddy.
In what possible universe does this make sense?
Voters in WNC "hired" a 25 year old guy with one semester of college, and no employment record for a job as Member of Congress, whose responsibilities are to represent the area's interests in creating law for affecting 350mill people in the United States. Paraphrasing from a "job description," "...this person will be expected to participate in committees that make decisions or recommend action on matters of national finance, national defence, and expenditures of a trillion-dollar budget." (etc.) Compensation for this position is $175,000 per year, plus various travel and office allowances, and benefits including paid healthcare and retirement.
For comparison:
A recent graduate from a good law school would generally expect less than $100,000 first year, with the only ones meeting or exceeding the Congressional pay would be a top-of-the-class grad from (e.g.) Harvard who started at the most elite of firms in NYC. And in any case, the first year associate is given mostly grunt work (at about 60 hours/week) without much real responsibility.
A recent graduate in software engineering could expect first-year pay in the $80-90's with a large national company.
An MBA accounting graduate from a good school will get paid first-year about $60K in a major accounting firm, be treated like crap and do audit work for 60 hours a week. If with the MBA and about 7 years experience, if s/he lasts there and makes partner, s/he'll finally get paid about the same as Maddy.
In what possible universe does this make sense?
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Re: Cawthorn
Well said.
Great gig.
No qualifications necessary except an ignorant constituency.
See Marjorie, Boebert, Gaetz and more.
Great gig.
No qualifications necessary except an ignorant constituency.
See Marjorie, Boebert, Gaetz and more.
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Re: Cawthorn
Sadly, that no longer is remotely humourous. Back in the day of Will Rogers, he could say “I don’t make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts.” Now the election of dangerous illiterates is serious stuff.
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I can almost agree with the pay. Gaetz would be making far more with his law degree and daddy's contacts.O Really wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 12:15 pmNot to keep beating a dead horse (although beating a dead one is better than beating a live one), but let's consider:
Voters in WNC "hired" a 25 year old guy with one semester of college, and no employment record for a job as Member of Congress, whose responsibilities are to represent the area's interests in creating law for affecting 350mill people in the United States. Paraphrasing from a "job description," "...this person will be expected to participate in committees that make decisions or recommend action on matters of national finance, national defence, and expenditures of a trillion-dollar budget." (etc.) Compensation for this position is $175,000 per year, plus various travel and office allowances, and benefits including paid healthcare and retirement.
For comparison:
A recent graduate from a good law school would generally expect less than $100,000 first year, with the only ones meeting or exceeding the Congressional pay would be a top-of-the-class grad from (e.g.) Harvard who started at the most elite of firms in NYC. And in any case, the first year associate is given mostly grunt work (at about 60 hours/week) without much real responsibility.
A recent graduate in software engineering could expect first-year pay in the $80-90's with a large national company.
An MBA accounting graduate from a good school will get paid first-year about $60K in a major accounting firm, be treated like crap and do audit work for 60 hours a week. If with the MBA and about 7 years experience, if s/he lasts there and makes partner, s/he'll finally get paid about the same as Maddy.
In what possible universe does this make sense?
After all, these congress people were mostly making as much or more before politics, but somehow there has to be a line drawn. Either educate the morons, or don't let morons run for office.
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I don't know anything about the Cawthorn family, but the Ledford family (a Ledford son crashed the car shithead got disabled in) is pretty wealthy which also means influential. So my theory is that the Ledfords are to blame for this pitiful Cawthorn tragedy once again. You'd think they'd have learned after the first time being involved with him.O Really wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 11:11 am"He was the people's pick..."GoCubsGo wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 10:48 amHe was the people's pick, charismatic ( ) with a compelling backstory who said the right things.O Really wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 10:45 amMost everybody has done stupid things they'd prefer didn't show up on YouTube, but Cawthorn seems particularly prone to salacious stuff - much of which was before he was elected. Do we know how he actually got in the position to be elected? Who picks somebody like him to push for Congress, particularly in an area totally infested with solid right-wing potential candidates?
He overcame trump and Meadow's endorsement of a primary opponent.
Them's some major league stupid people. At the very least the "people" should have picked somebody who'd had at least one real job.
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Nice work if you can get it.
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Interesting that except for one nutjob, no one is willing to give their full name.
What may be saddest part though, it's the scandals and solicitous behavior that may do him in, not the politics or wingnutterey.
The likes of Boebert, Greene et al probably won't be brought down.
Voters in Madison Cawthorn's North Carolina district have very mixed feelings about the freshman lawmaker as controversies swirl before his May 17 primary
What may be saddest part though, it's the scandals and solicitous behavior that may do him in, not the politics or wingnutterey.
The likes of Boebert, Greene et al probably won't be brought down.
Voters in Madison Cawthorn's North Carolina district have very mixed feelings about the freshman lawmaker as controversies swirl before his May 17 primary
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Yes. I'm bursting with pride.
Idk if there are any more recent polls.Vrede too wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:18 pm"notes"? The Dems can just run RepuQ ads.GoCubsGo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:01 pmTrending lower....
Hope the Dems are taking copious notes (FWIW).
Poll: Cawthorn has 'substantial' Republican primary decline; still 18 points over EdwardsOkay then, thanks.... The poll shows the 26-year-old, first-term Henderson County congressman's percentage of support from decided likely primary voters was 49% in March. But in April it dropped to 38%. The next-highest challenger, state. Sen. Chuck Edwards saw his support rise from 14% to 21%.
Early in-person voting for the 11th House District and other North Carolina races started April 28.
"The big question remains: Will Madison Cawthorn lose the primary on May 17th? The short answer: maybe," Blaine said (Differentiators Data)....
In Cawthorn's favor are a recent endorsement by the National Rifle Association and continued support from ex-President Donald Trump, who spoke with the congressman at an eastern North Carolina rally this month.
Other favorable factors include that he has a good chance of drawing more than 30% of the vote, which avoids a primary runoff — and it would also be difficult for Edwards to raise his numbers to higher than that by primary day on May 17, Blaine with the Differentiators said.
Looks like MadCaw will at least make it to a runoff.
MadCaw still might even win outright on May 17, and he's the only one that has a shot. It will be excellent to see Edwards get stomped!
I'm even more likely to vote for MadCaw now.
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https://wlos.com/news/local/video-clip- ... nother-manGoCubsGo wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 10:44 amExcuse me?
How is it that there is zero local coverage of this?
That is freaking bizarre.
https://wlos.com/
, but it is a tabloid-level "scandal".