War on Women
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So on TV just after I posted my birth control question, I saw a breakdown of who gets abortions. About half are people below poverty line, who would not have ready access to health care and many of whom would find $10/mo onerous. Not as onerous as a child or an abortion, but still.
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Because horny humans in the moment are the bastion of rational thinking...
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Partially inexplicable, but some relevant factors besides poverty include:O Really wrote: βWed May 04, 2022 1:26 pmSo on TV just after I posted my birth control question, I saw a breakdown of who gets abortions. About half are people below poverty line, who would not have ready access to health care and many of whom would find $10/mo onerous. Not as onerous as a child or an abortion, but still.
BC, including Plan B, should be free and readily accessible;
Govt is being fiscally shortsighted, schools and welfare cost more;
BC is not 100% effective;
Lack of comprehensive sex ed;
Fundy proscriptions.
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Since when do people make sense?
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So I was reading about an anti abortion bill in Louisiana that grants personhood to a fertilized egg.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/ ... d-provider
What happens if someone is pregnant and can't afford medical care for complications that may arise and the fetus dies. Is that murder?
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/ ... d-provider
What happens if someone doesn't know they're pregnant and goes out partying and ends up miscarrying? Is that manslaughter?McCormick's measure, which would give personhood to a fertilized egg, states that its provision should be enforced "without regard to the opinions and judgments of the Supreme Court of the United States in Roe" or that decision's "judicial progeny, past and future."
What happens if someone is pregnant and can't afford medical care for complications that may arise and the fetus dies. Is that murder?
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Will embryonic and fetal "persons" be able to vote, enter into contracts and exercise their 2nd amendment rights?Whack9 wrote: βThu May 05, 2022 3:43 pmSo I was reading about an anti abortion bill in Louisiana that grants personhood to a fertilized egg.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/ ... d-providerWhat happens if someone doesn't know they're pregnant and goes out partying and ends up miscarrying? Is that manslaughter?McCormick's measure, which would give personhood to a fertilized egg, states that its provision should be enforced "without regard to the opinions and judgments of the Supreme Court of the United States in Roe" or that decision's "judicial progeny, past and future."
What happens if someone is pregnant and can't afford medical care for complications that may arise and the fetus dies. Is that murder?
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Sounds like another Southern Rebellion in the works.Vrede too wrote: βThu May 05, 2022 4:07 pmWill embryonic and fetal "persons" be able to vote, enter into contracts and exercise their 2nd amendment rights?Whack9 wrote: βThu May 05, 2022 3:43 pmSo I was reading about an anti abortion bill in Louisiana that grants personhood to a fertilized egg.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/ ... d-providerWhat happens if someone doesn't know they're pregnant and goes out partying and ends up miscarrying? Is that manslaughter?McCormick's measure, which would give personhood to a fertilized egg, states that its provision should be enforced "without regard to the opinions and judgments of the Supreme Court of the United States in Roe" or that decision's "judicial progeny, past and future."
What happens if someone is pregnant and can't afford medical care for complications that may arise and the fetus dies. Is that murder?
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I always assumed that even pro lifers were ok with terminating a pregnancy in cases such as rape, but that no longer seems to be the case. Imagine a young girl getting raped and being forced to give birth. What a fucked up, disgusting, situation.Vrede too wrote: βThu May 05, 2022 4:07 pmWill embryonic and fetal "persons" be able to vote, enter into contracts and exercise their 2nd amendment rights?Whack9 wrote: βThu May 05, 2022 3:43 pmSo I was reading about an anti abortion bill in Louisiana that grants personhood to a fertilized egg.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/ ... d-providerWhat happens if someone doesn't know they're pregnant and goes out partying and ends up miscarrying? Is that manslaughter?McCormick's measure, which would give personhood to a fertilized egg, states that its provision should be enforced "without regard to the opinions and judgments of the Supreme Court of the United States in Roe" or that decision's "judicial progeny, past and future."
What happens if someone is pregnant and can't afford medical care for complications that may arise and the fetus dies. Is that murder?
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Also, while "life of the mother" often will make as abortion okay, "health of the mother" won't.

Along with rape there's incest, which isn't a surprise with these fundies. It's worse than "forced to give birth." Fathers have rights, imagine 18 years of shared custody or at least visitation rights with her rapist.

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That's about 32,000 rape pregnancies per year, or about 5% of all rapes.
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Happy Mother's Day . . . whether you want it to be or not (SNL).

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Open was pretty brutal also.
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Nope, poor emoji choice.
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Unneeded proof that the there is a war on women.
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I think there's even more proof after McConnell said in the past few days that he foresees a national law against abortion.
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Some anti abortion states want to make abortions sought out of state illegal, stating that the the fertilized egg (and all later stages) is a citizen of their state. Aborting them is therefore tantamount to a crime against a citizen of said state.
Scenario: An illegal immigrant couple has been living in the US for a few years and gets pregnant. 8 months into her pregnancy she's deported to her home country of Mexico where she eventually gives birth.
Is the child, born in Mexico to parents with Mexican citizenship, a "citizen" of the state he or she was conceived in since life begins at conception? How do they even track such a thing? Should the state now sue (or whatever legal avenue there is) the federal government and lobby for citizenship of that baby conceived in the United States?
Does the ferilized egg get a "pre-birth" certificate or something?
Scenario: An illegal immigrant couple has been living in the US for a few years and gets pregnant. 8 months into her pregnancy she's deported to her home country of Mexico where she eventually gives birth.
Is the child, born in Mexico to parents with Mexican citizenship, a "citizen" of the state he or she was conceived in since life begins at conception? How do they even track such a thing? Should the state now sue (or whatever legal avenue there is) the federal government and lobby for citizenship of that baby conceived in the United States?
Does the ferilized egg get a "pre-birth" certificate or something?