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As I see it, either Hillary's career and reputation is done or someone is going to show security limits came from the White House. There are two issues here. The first is the diplomatic side that we have been discussing. The other is the Middle East version of fast and furious. It now seems likely the Ambassador was killed by weapons supplied by the CIA. That could have come from orders from the White House.

It is clear a lot of intelligence was compromised because the embassy and consulate were left unsecured for so long. Why the the FBI took so long to get in there is unexplainable except for one thing. The FBI would have been required to note activities that are unlawful by the US State Dept. or CIA. The FBI findings are far more public than the CIA which are held accountable in the FISA system.

This mess has three likely out comes Hillary takes the fall; Obama takes the Fall; or a national security coverup.

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Tertius wrote:As I see it, either Hillary's career and reputation is done or someone is going to show security limits came from the White House. There are two issues here. The first is the diplomatic side that we have been discussing. The other is the Middle East version of fast and furious. It now seems likely the Ambassador was killed by weapons supplied by the CIA. That could have come from orders from the White House.

It is clear a lot of intelligence was compromised because the embassy and consulate were left unsecured for so long. Why the the FBI took so long to get in there is unexplainable except for one thing. The FBI would have been required to note activities that are unlawful by the US State Dept. or CIA. The FBI findings are far more public than the CIA which are held accountable in the FISA system.

This mess has three likely out comes Hillary takes the fall; Obama takes the Fall; or a national security coverup.
Looks like Slick anticipates Hillary getting thrown under bus

:mrgreen:

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Colonel Taylor wrote:
lessthantolerant wrote:The purview of a fool like pilgrim is he feels he is always right, therefore he is.
Hell he'll fit right in with many of the libs here.
And being unable to support your bullshit with facts and data... makes you the quintessential rightwinger..
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hokiewoodchuck wrote:I prefer King's english spelling rather than trying to pacify others by spelling it like the muzzies do. Atleast it informs others whose side I am on. The 'K' sound is a 'K' not a Q'.

That's kuite and interesting kuest you and your antikue views have kueued up. Wonder if you will ackuire the technikues to conkure this task or will you fail like a moskuito strained through a rackuet?
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Looks looks Obama has out foxed the Clintons once again. If she resigns her future political career is OVER. If she stays and Obama loses he will run her over with an 18 wheeler so her career is still over. If he wins she has to tag along another 4 years cleaning up his messes and this mess will hang over her forever.
Or she can come out and say I TOLD THE WHITE house and look like the Hero to her followers and the rest of the Dems and in 4 years run for POTUS. They were out foxed.


Wneglia wrote:
Tertius wrote:As I see it, either Hillary's career and reputation is done or someone is going to show security limits came from the White House. There are two issues here. The first is the diplomatic side that we have been discussing. The other is the Middle East version of fast and furious. It now seems likely the Ambassador was killed by weapons supplied by the CIA. That could have come from orders from the White House.

It is clear a lot of intelligence was compromised because the embassy and consulate were left unsecured for so long. Why the the FBI took so long to get in there is unexplainable except for one thing. The FBI would have been required to note activities that are unlawful by the US State Dept. or CIA. The FBI findings are far more public than the CIA which are held accountable in the FISA system.

This mess has three likely out comes Hillary takes the fall; Obama takes the Fall; or a national security coverup.
Looks like Slick anticipates Hillary getting thrown under bus

:mrgreen:

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hokiewoodchuck wrote: You have bragged about your family being here since rocks were formed and I can tell you this......your forefathers would be highly ashamed of you for being afraid of BURNING A KORAN!

What would your forefathers say about you hokiewoodchuck for "not" burning the Quran? I assume you haven't, or it seems we would have read about it somewhere. Or maybe you did it in your bedroom with the doors locked?

Fall For Greenville is today with over 150,000 people in attendance, here's your chance!

And just curious, why do you call Tertius "hugh"?

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blackfoot wrote:
hokiewoodchuck wrote: You have bragged about your family being here since rocks were formed and I can tell you this......your forefathers would be highly ashamed of you for being afraid of BURNING A KORAN!

What would your forefathers say about you hokiewoodchuck for "not" burning the Quran? I assume you haven't, or it seems we would have read about it somewhere. Or maybe you did it in your bedroom with the doors locked?

Fall For Greenville is today with over 150,000 people in attendance, here's your chance!

And just curious, why do you call Tertius "hugh"?
He use to post under the name Hugh.. isn't that right "Neil"..
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Crock Hunter wrote:
blackfoot wrote:
hokiewoodchuck wrote: You have bragged about your family being here since rocks were formed and I can tell you this......your forefathers would be highly ashamed of you for being afraid of BURNING A KORAN!

What would your forefathers say about you hokiewoodchuck for "not" burning the Quran? I assume you haven't, or it seems we would have read about it somewhere. Or maybe you did it in your bedroom with the doors locked?

Fall For Greenville is today with over 150,000 people in attendance, here's your chance!

And just curious, why do you call Tertius "hugh"?
He use to post under the name Hugh.. isn't that right "Neil"..
Who cares what their names were on another forum? They probably know what your aliases are too. I'm surprised to see "crock hunter" on this forum, especially since your days at SHJ forum. But i guess you have to post , somewhere. Can't give you any points on style, that's a given.

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Tertius wrote:Everyone in the State Department is part of the executive branch and part of the Obama administration. Bureaucrats regardless of who appointed them are responsible to the current administration. The current administration is responsible for its employees. Duh.

It is yet to be seen who set the limits on who and how security was deployed. Nah, it's pretty common knowledge for the well-informed who follow the congressional testimony. You guys just won't accept the facts because there's no reason to blame Obama. It is the Presidents job to set the guidelines and when he wants to be notified of exceptional needs. It is not the president's job to set the millions of guidelines and policies that it takes to run the more than one thousand government agencies, nor is it the responsibility of the president to make the tens of thousands of daily decisions that the more than one thousand agencies make. That's not only uninformed and ludicrous, it's physically impossible.

Somewhere in the chain of command the security priorities were set too low. Someone stopped the request for an exception and for a reason. Someone decided to stop and or limit the roll of the Marines. The Marines were never in the picture. There was no request for Marines, simply to keep the security staff they had. There was a request to keep 13 diplomatic security personnel (not Marines) at the embassy in Tripoli, not the Benghazi. There was also congressional testimony that had the request been granted, massacre in Benghazi still would have happened.http://seattletimes.com/html/nationworl ... bya13.html Those are not the decisions of career diplomats. Those are policy decisions. Right. The guy who doesn't even know what happened now knows who makes what decisions. You don't think policy decisions are made by Deputy Secretaries?

The VP said they were unaware of the request. Who him and Obama because they told their chiefs of staff to block such notifications? No, because the tens of thousands of daily decisions by every one of the thousand-plus government agencies doesn't go to the president. SOP. Sorry you can't grasp the simplest concept. They were out of the loop because they refused to attend security briefings? Obama attends the PDB every day. It's just that the tens of thousands of minor daily decisions of the thousand-plus government agencies don't make it to the PDB.
Not that rational thought will put a dent in your carefully-thought-out, wackadoodle conspiracy theories, nor will it abate your unhinged hatred for Obama, but here goes.

Based on interviews with administration officials, as well as in diplomatic cables, and Congressional testimony, those security decisions appear to have been made largely by midlevel State Department security officials, and did not involve Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton or her top aides.


Everyone wants to forget the details. Obama got kudos for eliminating "don't ask don't tell." No one thought about what a public proclamation would do. How this would provide fodder for Muslim terrorist whose opinions of homosexuality make hokiewoodchuck sound like liberal. Wouldn't even touch what the pictures of Abu Ghraib did. Every Mullah in every Muslim country expressing contempt for the homosexuals that are apart of the American military in their country. Obama gave Muslims that were not previously bent on on terrorism or fighting American military troops a reason to kill our men and women. Bush's unilateral invasion of Iraq did that. How'd that WMD thing work out for you?

You liberals and especially the homosexual community have been used by Obama to incentivize the Muslims terrorist and non-terrorist alike to murder Americans. Oh, the stupid. It hurts.

So there is factual foundation for what the Obama administration expected to happen to Ambassador Stevens. No, there isn't. There's only an increase in the price of tin foil caused by the escalating demand for it by all the conspiracy loons like yourself. All the while Obama and Biden practiced their own version of don't ask, don't tell. Or, to put it as Obama and Biden told their staff. "Don't ask us about additional embassy security and don't tell us about about a terrorist attack on gay Ambassador Steven's quarters." You got a source for that quote, dumbass?

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Though it was only a relatively second rate U.S. imperialista HQ location, you've got to start
somewhere. Let's burn 'em all down. :---P

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stinger, now why would turdius need a quote for something he puts lil quotie things around? it almost appears that you doubt his honesty
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So you folks give my name out again.....LOL!

Sorry but it doesn't bother one bit since the last time. It just seems cowards hide behind screen names.

It seems as if you cannot keep up me me teaching you lessons y'all just resort to name calling, posting false and defamatory lies and such.

Knock yourself out cause he who laughs last, laughs best.

Now that you have been labeled a liar..........whose gonna believe you. If you have any street cred please share with us your real ID. But then again we wouldn't believe that either. Either way you lose.

And it is spelled Koran........grins!

I love being an arrogant American......life couldn't be better.

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hokiewoodchuck wrote: It seems as if you cannot keep up me me teaching you lessons y'all just resort to name calling, posting false and defamatory lies and such.
Does Thong have a brother?

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hokiewoodchuck wrote:So you folks give my name out again.....LOL!

Sorry but it doesn't bother one bit since the last time. It just seems cowards hide behind screen names.

It seems as if you cannot keep up me me teaching you lessons y'all just resort to name calling, posting false and defamatory lies and such.

Knock yourself out cause he who laughs last, laughs best.

Now that you have been labeled a liar..........whose gonna believe you. If you have any street cred please share with us your real ID. But then again we wouldn't believe that either. Either way you lose.

And it is spelled Koran........grins!

I love being an arrogant American......life couldn't be better.

Sorry Hokiewoodchuck, but is this post addressed to me, if so, I'm not following you at all. I just asked why you don't burn the Quran like you keep daring Tertius to do?

And don't you have a screen name like everyone here? So why do you consider some people cowards because they have a screen name, and you aren't, even though you have a screen name as well?

And feel free to spell it "Koran", use a red crayon while you spell it out on your mommie's wall, might as well.

Just curious, what do you have to be arrogant about?

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Colonel Taylor wrote:Looks looks Obama has out foxed the Clintons once again. If she resigns her future political career is OVER. If she stays and Obama loses he will run her over with an 18 wheeler so her career is still over. If he wins she has to tag along another 4 years cleaning up his messes and this mess will hang over her forever.
Or she can come out and say I TOLD THE WHITE house and look like the Hero to her followers and the rest of the Dems and in 4 years run for POTUS. They were out foxed.


Wneglia wrote:
Tertius wrote:As I see it, either Hillary's career and reputation is done or someone is going to show security limits came from the White House. There are two issues here. The first is the diplomatic side that we have been discussing. The other is the Middle East version of fast and furious. It now seems likely the Ambassador was killed by weapons supplied by the CIA. That could have come from orders from the White House.

It is clear a lot of intelligence was compromised because the embassy and consulate were left unsecured for so long. Why the the FBI took so long to get in there is unexplainable except for one thing. The FBI would have been required to note activities that are unlawful by the US State Dept. or CIA. The FBI findings are far more public than the CIA which are held accountable in the FISA system.

This mess has three likely out comes Hillary takes the fall; Obama takes the Fall; or a national security coverup.
Looks like Slick anticipates Hillary getting thrown under bus

:mrgreen:

Hillary Strikes Back

Gonna get interesting.

:mrgreen:

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She had/has to do something if she wants to run in 4 years!
I think ole Bil will say something off the cuff maybe. I don't know. They are kind of cornered.

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hokiewoodchuck wrote:Nuclear code would be nice to have right now...........to begin the launch sequence. Destination.....Libya, Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq............take your choice.
Why Iran? They are some of the nicest people you could ever meet! 0:-?>

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Ed Klein? Are you serious? He was called out for being slime by the National Review.

Then you follow it up with an article from a frickin' tabloid? Are you really that gullible?

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Colonel Taylor wrote: Or she can come out and say I TOLD THE WHITE house and look like the Hero to her followers and the rest of the Dems and in 4 years run for POTUS. They were out foxed.
Why would she lie?

Because you do it all the time? Your basic assumption because you're so familiar with the behavior?

She couldn't tell the White House if she herself were not told. And where did you get the idea that she wants to run in four years?

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Reading many accounts it is quite obvious that the bueracracy could not function and make wise or immediate decisions.

Hildabeast suffers from the same mindset Obie does, they like the lifers in the State Department believe if we act passive and plead nicely than all people will love us.

These very same people believe America is inherently evil and corrupt.

They sacrificed Ambassador Stevens and his security detail to their ideology.

Watching them all run for cover and try to cover their affirmative action puppet Obie is too funny.

If Romney and the Republican want to win they will work this story from many angles until election day.

Our affirmative action puppet president and his regime of morons need to be outed and sent to the ash bin of history.
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