NFL Football

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I love the game. I know most of you guys do also.

I've said for years, and I'm certain I've said it in this thread way in the past that I thought we'd see someone die on the field in our lifetime. It seemingly got a little better after they made launching and targeting illegal for the players saftey, but it still is an inherently violent sport.

Hope Damar Hamlin is ok. It doesn't look like an extremely violent hit but who knows......crash cart, ambulance and CPR performed on the field.

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I love the game. I know most of you guys do also.

I've said for years, and I'm certain I've said it in this thread way in the past that I thought we'd see someone die on the field in our lifetime. It seemingly got a little better after they made launching and targeting illegal for the players safety, but it still is an inherently violent sport.

Hope Damar Hamlin is ok. It doesn't look like an extremely violent hit but who knows......crash cart, ambulance and CPR performed on the field.
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Helmet vs sternum. A significant blow to the chest at the exact wrong moment in the heartbeat can cause a fatal arrhythmia. The articles don't say whether he was defibrillated and/or whether they were able to cease CPR before placing him in the ambulance.

Or:

... According to Joe Danneman, a reporter at Fox19 Now Hamlin has a pulse but is not breathing on his own. He was transported to University of Cincinnati Academic Health Center.

24 years old. Fingers crossed.

Yahoo comments:

I'm done watching football after 60 years. I made vow I'd stop after someone got killed. Out.

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They said he's in critical condition....so I guess he's still alive.

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They said he's in critical condition....so I guess he's still alive.

Depends on whether his brain was oxygen starved and for how long.

Wiki edit:

... First responders initiated CPR and administered defibrillation to Hamlin on the field. According to ESPN announcer Joe Buck, CPR was provided "frantically" for "many minutes." Hamlin was also given oxygen, intubated and hooked up to an IV. He was transported to University of Cincinnati Academic Health Center at 9:25 p.m. EST; he was intubated and reported to be in critical condition. The game was suspended with 5:58 remaining in the first quarter and eventually postponed.

[GoCubsGo]

They said he's in critical condition....so I guess he's still alive.

Depends on whether his brain was oxygen starved and for how long.

Wiki edit:

... First responders initiated CPR and administered defibrillation to Hamlin on the field. According to ESPN announcer Joe Buck, CPR was provided "frantically" for "many minutes." Hamlin was also given oxygen, intubated and hooked up to an IV. He was transported to University of Cincinnati Academic Health Center at 9:25 p.m. EST; he was intubated and reported to be in critical condition. The game was suspended with 5:58 remaining in the first quarter and eventually postponed.

The nutjobs waste no time.

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The nutjobs waste no time.

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Assholes, too.

Move to California you can apply for ptsd disability now.

FO, patrick.

Could have been easily prevented if he had the COVID shot!

FO, Michael.

Tons of down-thumbs and scolding for both.

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Don't know why the original video was taken down.

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Don't know why the original video was taken down.

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I wonder how the NFL will deal with the postponement. The game won't change who is in the Playoffs, but it could affect whether the Bills or KC get the bye, and whether Cincy or the Ravens win the AFC North.

NFL Week 18 schedule favors Packers, Aaron Rodgers, and Seahawks have reason to be upset

Cries from coaches, players and fans that the NFL is biased to popular teams and/or superstar players is one of the few criticisms that the league will always push back on.

Competitive balance is the league’s mantra, after all. Any Given Sunday, and all of that. Most of the conspiracy theories don’t exactly shake out, either....

Yet then the NFL does something like set its Week 18 schedule and, well, you can see why the claims of favoritism persist.

Entering the final week of the season, the Detroit Lions, Green Bay Packers and Seattle Seahawks are competing for the final playoff spot in the NFC.

Green Bay simply needs to defeat Detroit to earn the bid.

Seattle needs to beat the Los Angeles Rams and then have the Lions defeat the Packers.

Detroit, meanwhile, needs to beat Green Bay and have Seattle lose.

The obvious thing to do — the proper, fair and smart thing to do — is to have the Detroit-Green Bay and Rams-Seattle games take place at the same time. That way, should Seattle win, it wouldn’t impact Detroit’s competitive drive. The Lions wouldn’t know they were eliminated before they started playing....

However, instead of having all three teams play at the same time — namely the late Sunday afternoon window — the NFL flexed the Detroit-Green Bay game to 8:25 p.m. ET Sunday night. Yet Seattle will still play L.A. at 4:25 p.m. ET

That means, if Seattle beats the lowly Rams (5-11), then the Lions would be eliminated prior to kickoff....

This is a clear advantage for Green Bay, who, perhaps not coincidentally, is as a historic franchise with a far bigger television draw and features one of the league’s biggest stars in quarterback Aaron Rodgers.

It doesn’t take much of an imagination to understand the NFL and its broadcast partners would rather have Rodgers and the Packers in the playoffs than Seattle and its QB, Geno Smith.

The NFL, if only to avoid suggestions of bias — which it will vehemently dispute — should have avoided this. Yet the league chose not to.

As such, it either purposely set this up to favor Green Bay or it walked right into the perception that it set this up to favor Green Bay.

Either way, it was completely avoidable. This is a self-inflicted credibility wound.

Certainly NBC is quite pleased to get Rodgers and the Packers in a de facto playoff game on Sunday. Even if Detroit is eliminated before the game, Green Bay has to win … and Seattle fans would be watching to see the Packers lose.

And if the Rams were to somehow upset Seattle, then it’s a Detroit-Green Bay play-in game.

No matter what, the ratings will be huge.

And regardless of the scenario, there is an additional measure of advantage for the Packers with the late time slot. As Rodgers has pointed out weeks ago, Detroit plays its home games in a dome. Green Bay has historically feasted on those kinds of teams when they have to play outside in the Wisconsin winter.

Well, the temperature will be lower at night than in the afternoon. A small thing, absolutely. Still a thing, though....

Seattle deserved better. So did the NFL’s long-standing claim that it favors no single team over another, because no matter what happens, that has taken a beating with this decision.

GO Seahawks, GO Lions!!

The East was the strongest AFC Div for much of the season, but now only Buffalo is above .500 and the North is the best.
Jacksonville 8-8 leads the AFC South.
The NFC East is the strongest NFL Div and has qualified 3 teams. Too bad about Dallas, but the Commies are shut out.
The East is the only NFC Div with more than one team above .500.
Brady Bay 8-8 won the AFC South.

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I wonder how the NFL will deal with the postponement. The game won't change who is in the Playoffs, but it could affect whether the Bills or KC get the bye, and whether Cincy or the Ravens win the AFC North.

Hard to forsee a circumstance for them resuming the game, especially as they have to play different opponents in five days. Would they possibly push the entire league back, i.e. the playoffs a week to get this one in in a week 19? Don't know but seems hard to imagine.

Guessing they call it a tie or base playoff seeding based on winning percentage of 16 games for the Bill's and Bengals.

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Hard to forsee a circumstance for them resuming the game, especially as they have to play different opponents in five days. Would they possibly push the entire league back, i.e. the playoffs a week to get this one in in a week 19? Don't know but seems hard to imagine.

Guessing they call it a tie or base playoff seeding based on winning percentage of 16 games for the Bill's and Bengals.

Designated players could duke it out on Madden NFL. One option has been ruled out, which is for the best:

NFL says Bills-Bengals will not be resumed this week, league has not changed Week 18 schedule

... That opens up the possibility of the game not being played at all, or the start of the playoffs being pushed back. The league said no decision has been made on the possible resumption of the game at a later date.

The game between the Bills and Bengals was a key one in shaping the AFC playoff race. The Bills were 12-3 and the Bengals were 11-4. The Bengals would have clinched the AFC North with a win. The Bills, Bengals and 12-3 Kansas City Chiefs all still had a path to the No. 1 seed in the AFC....

It is rare for the NFL to cancel games. There were lost games in 1982 and 1987 due to player strikes. In 2020 and 2021, many games were rescheduled due to COVID-19 but all were eventually played.

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It is rare for the NFL to cancel games. There were lost games in 1982 and 1987 due to player strikes. In 2020 and 2021, many games were rescheduled due to COVID-19 but all were eventually played.

This one's unique in more ways than one.

Will the Bills even be ready to play on Sunday?

Apparently some players didn't fly back with the team last night to stay close.

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This one's unique in more ways than one.

Will the Bills even be ready to play on Sunday?

Apparently some players didn't fly back with the team last night to stay close.

@Bills play New England 8-8 on Sunday, which needs a win to get in.

@Cincy plays the Ravens on Sunday, which only matters for the AFC North if Cincy gets a loss for the Bills game.

With so many irrelevant teams now, what were the odds that this would happen in a game that matters so much?

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In 2020, Hamlin started organizing annual Christmas toy drives in his hometown of McKees Rocks, Pennsylvania. Shortly after his January 2, 2023, in-game injury and critical condition, the GoFundMe campaign for his 2020 toy drive, which had an initial goal of $2,500, received a massive influx of donations, totaling over $5 million in a matter of hours.

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Ouch.

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Ouch.

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Nathan Peterman

... Peterman struggled early in the NFL, throwing five interceptions during the first half of his starting debut and posting a 0.0 passer rating in the 2018 season opener. His 11 interceptions thrown within his first 100 career passing attempts remain the most by any NFL quarterback in such a span....

Career NFL statistics as of Week 16, 2022
TD–INT: 3–13
Completion percentage: 52.5
Passing yards: 598
Passer rating: 32.2

Amazing that he still has a job, let alone gets to start.

Ouch.

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Ouch.

How badly do we want the #1 pick?

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How badly do we want the #1 pick?

It's an exciting finish, but Houston has the edge.

Houston 2 13 1 .156
Chicago 3 13 0 .188
Arizona 4 12 0 .250
Denver 4 12 0 .250
Indianapolis 4 11 1 .281

https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/standings/

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The team gifted her the longest losing streak in it's history.

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They said he's in critical condition....so I guess he's still alive.

Depends on whether his brain was oxygen starved and for how long....

As Damar Hamlin shows 'substantial improvement,' Buffalo Bills will play Sunday

... Physicians from the University of Cincinnati Medical Center, where the 24-year-old is being treated, said at a Thursday news conference that Hamlin had woken up and appears to have his neurological function intact.

... Hamlin is unable to speak because of his breathing tube but has been able to communicate through writing, the physicians said. He is also able to move his hands, feet and head.

"He expressed surprise that he had not been with the world for a couple days and we talked about the support from the team and really the world for him and his family at the time," UCMC physician William Knight IV said....

Hamlin continues to be critically ill and undergo intensive care in the ICU, but Knight called the past 24 hours a "good turning point."

Physicians said the next steps will be to get Hamlin out of the ICU and home to his family. They said the best scenario would have his condition back to what it was before the tackle.

After Hamlin's heart stopped beating following what seemed like a routine tackle, first responders resuscitated him by performing CPR and using a defibrillator.

Pritts and Knight called the emergency medical response life-saving, describing the injury as "rare" and "not a run-of-the-mill injury."

... The Bills-Bengals game was postponed with six minutes left in the first quarter and will not be resumed this week. The NFL has not yet decided whether to reschedule the match-up at a later date.

Pritts said the first question Hamlin asked when he woke was, "Did we win?" Physicians told him, "You won at the game of life."

So Hollywood. I knew that was going to be the question before TV news revealed what it was.

From all indications the ICU and ER staffs and especially the first responders did their jobs PERFECTLY.

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From all indications the ICU and ER staffs and especially the first responders did their jobs PERFECTLY.

I'm guessing he's still going to have some ups and downs during recovery but I hope he can have quality of life.