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Sun Mar 05, 2023 10:49 am
It's definitely a good thing to get a dent into the drought, but it hasn't been without issues, including upcoming big flood potential. Lot of people trapped in the mountains, some residents, but others who thought it would be cool to rent a place and watch the storm. Opps. Shoulda brought more food. Wrecks, slides, downed trees, crushed roofs, buried cars.

Meanwhile, at the coast, the only issue is running about 7-10 degrees under average high temp.
An 81-year-old man trapped in a major California snowstorm for a week says he survived by eating snow and croissants he had in his car

:clap: x 81 x 7!
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Glad he survived, but there were sooooo many things wrong there. " the California Highway Patrol warned residents that harsh weather was moving in and advised drivers to be careful on the roads..." Well, yeah, they did. But also the sheriff of Mono County (which he would have traveled through) went on a rant on TV that said "all roads in the county are closed. There are no main roads, no back roads and there are no secret ways around. Stay home!"

And if the main road is closed, who thinks it would be a good idea to take a secondary road? And if conditions are so bad you can't see, who doesn't think it would be better to turn around? And if you're bound and determined to go out and risk your life, who thinks it wouldn't be a good idea to pack some cold-weather survival stuff - blankets, real food, water, yada. And if you get stuck, would you not attach something visible to your car before it gets buried? This guy never heard the Donner story, for whom the pass toward which he's heading was named?

Most of this seems covered in the comments, but are worth repeating.

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Thu Mar 09, 2023 12:03 pm
... This guy never heard the Donner story, for whom the pass toward which he's heading was named? ...
I otherwise agree, but not Donner Pass. That's I-80.
Big Pine, California > Gardnerville, Nevada
Via US395 closed
Via CA168 attempted, and its pass was less than 50 miles from his home! He should have known better, as you say. When you gotta have a legal hooker you gotta have a legal hooker.

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12 have died since massive snowstorms cut off California mountain towns, official says

Most found at home rather than trapped in cars, so far.

Aside: I once broke down on Donner Pass. I told my friend in Tahoe City to come rescue me or I would start eating tourists.
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Thu Mar 09, 2023 1:50 pm
O Really wrote:
Thu Mar 09, 2023 12:03 pm
... This guy never heard the Donner story, for whom the pass toward which he's heading was named? ...
I otherwise agree, but not Donner Pass. That's I-80.
Big Pine, California > Gardnerville, Nevada
Via US395 closed
Via CA168 attempted, and its pass was less than 50 miles from his home! He should have known better, as you say. When you gotta have a legal hooker you gotta have a legal hooker.

CA road map

12 have died since massive snowstorms cut off California mountain towns, official says

Most found at home rather than trapped in cars, so far.

Aside: I once broke down on Donner Pass. I told my friend in Tahoe City to come rescue me or I would start eating tourists.
But the real question is: will croissants make him smile
Or will the scare him with memories?
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O Really wrote:
Thu Mar 09, 2023 12:03 pm
... This guy never heard the Donner story, for whom the pass toward which he's heading was named? ...
I otherwise agree, but not Donner Pass. That's I-80.
Yeah, I know, but I just meant it was in the general direction in which he was headed (north), not that he was actually going to cross it.

I know absolutely everything about the location, transportation, communications, and conditions are different now than back in Donner day, but it's still a scary story to think of if you have to go there.

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GoCubsGo wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 8:47 am
Wow is right.

But hey, Toy is probably snowed in with Solar. :lolno:

They deserve each other,
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Do you know that you're under "extreme" tornado risk right now? Be safe.
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Fri Mar 31, 2023 4:54 pm
GoCubsGo wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 8:47 am
Wow is right.

But hey, Toy is probably snowed in with Solar. :lolno:

They deserve each other,
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Do you know that you're under "extreme" tornado risk right now? Be safe.
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Do you know that you're under "extreme" tornado risk right now? Be safe.
This wasn't me. :shock:

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Do you know that you're under "extreme" tornado risk right now? Be safe.
Yeah, thx. Just got back in from walking the dog before it's supposed to start.
‘Tornado alley’ is shifting farther into the US east, climate scientists warn

... Previous research has shown that over recent decades there has been a stagnation, or even slight drop, in the number of tornadoes in their traditional home range of the Great Plains, but an uptick in states further east, such as Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama, Illinois and Indiana....

Walker Ashley, lead author of research that found the average number of supercells – huge, rotating storms that spawn the strongest tornadoes – are expected to increase significantly this century, said that four key factors are at play in tornado formation.

One is moisture in the atmosphere, which scientists are virtually certain is increasing due to rising global temperatures, while a second is instability in the atmosphere, the difference between hot and cold air that Ashley called the “gasoline needed for a storm” which is also expected to worsen amid the climate crisis.

But the other two key ingredients – wind shear, the change in wind direction and speed at different altitudes that “takes an ordinary storm and turns it into an organized menace”, according to Ashley, and the mechanisms that lift parcels of air up before they become storms – are more unclear in terms of their outcomes in a hotter world.

... As tornadoes, on average, edge east they are coming into contact with more densely populated areas – think sprawling suburbia more than the isolated Kansas farm in The Wizard of Oz.

“There’s been explosive growth in the south in recent years and that unfortunately means we are turning up both the number of tornadoes in this area and the number of people exposed to them,” Ashley said....
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Don't know the reason, but tornadoes never seem to hit urban areas. We've had umpteen warnings but never touchdowns near the lake.
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Don't know the reason, but tornadoes never seem to hit urban areas. We've had umpteen warnings but never touchdowns near the lake.
Not enough trailer parks to attract them. Trailer parks are well-known tornado bait.

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Don't know the reason, but tornadoes never seem to hit urban areas. We've had umpteen warnings but never touchdowns near the lake.
Not enough trailer parks to attract them. Trailer parks are well-known tornado bait.
Baptist churches, too. You'd think there would be some protection, but nooo.
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I've been in a bunch of South Florida summer rainstorms and they seem like a lot of rain. Streets fill (temporarily), intersections flood, yada. I can't imagine 2 feet of rain in one day. And the Ft. Lauderdale airport runway looked like a lake. I don't think that's ever happened before. Good thing there's no climate change, and I'm sure Florida residents are happy to have a Governor that left South Florida underwater and went stealth campaigning in Ohio. Probably couldn't get a flight to Cancun.

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Thu Apr 13, 2023 10:51 pm
I've been in a bunch of South Florida summer rainstorms and they seem like a lot of rain. Streets fill (temporarily), intersections flood, yada. I can't imagine 2 feet of rain in one day. And the Ft. Lauderdale airport runway looked like a lake. I don't think that's ever happened before. Good thing there's no climate change, and I'm sure Florida residents are happy to have a Governor that left South Florida underwater and went stealth campaigning in Ohio. Probably couldn't get a flight to Cancun.
It is incredible.

Fort Lauderdale and Broward County are Dem. Fascist "GoGo Boots" DerSantis doesn't give a (spit).
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O Really wrote:
Thu Apr 13, 2023 10:51 pm
I've been in a bunch of South Florida summer rainstorms and they seem like a lot of rain. Streets fill (temporarily), intersections flood, yada. I can't imagine 2 feet of rain in one day. And the Ft. Lauderdale airport runway looked like a lake. I don't think that's ever happened before. Good thing there's no climate change, and I'm sure Florida residents are happy to have a Governor that left South Florida underwater and went stealth campaigning in Ohio. Probably couldn't get a flight to Cancun.
It is incredible.

Fort Lauderdale and Broward County are Dem. Fascist "GoGo Boots" DerSantis doesn't give a (spit).
Couldn't even be bothered to return from "an event" in Ohio.
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Fort Lauderdale and Broward County are Dem. Fascist "GoGo Boots" DerSantis doesn't give a (spit).
Not really. Sure the counties voted majority for the Dem candidates, but less than half registrations are real Dems. 20-something percent are Repugs and almost a third are non-affiliated. Looks like there's quite a few thousand voters there that might be available for DeSantis unless, of course, he just told them to fuckoff.

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Isn't Oroville the same lake that an earthen dam there was breached a few years ago? I remember something about that....looked like a big deal.

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neoplacebo wrote:
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Isn't Oroville the same lake that an earthen dam there was breached a few years ago? I remember something about that....looked like a big deal.
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Mon Jul 31, 2017 6:28 pm
Remember the Oroville Dam in California? In February the main and emergency spillways failed, leading to the evacuation of 188,000 people living near the dam.

It's once again competing with the Trump administration under the "that's not a good sign" category.
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A giant earthen dam in Oroville gave way a few years ago. No idea if it was part of this particular water system. Or the ass end of it.
Same lake created by the same dam. Near collapse in 2017, but it held:

Oroville Dam crisis

NoCal has been in a drought since. :(
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Vrede too wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 7:28 pm
O Really wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:47 pm
GoCubsGo wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:24 pm
Don't know the reason, but tornadoes never seem to hit urban areas. We've had umpteen warnings but never touchdowns near the lake.
Not enough trailer parks to attract them. Trailer parks are well-known tornado bait.
Baptist churches, too. You'd think there would be some protection, but nooo.
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We have trailer parks in WNC, and Baptist churches, too.

About 8 miles east of me, EF-0:

Photos: Confirmed tornado touches down in Henderson County for first time in decades



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