I'm still waiting for the prosecution of him for the various campaign finance felonies from 2016, or the Inauguration.
Alvin Bragg is prosecuting him for some of the 2016 campaign finance felonies, sort of. I think the statute of limitations has otherwise expired . IMO the clock should have started on 1/20/23. DoJ's prime mission was to cover up TRE45QN crimes until then.
I'm still waiting for the prosecution of him for the various campaign finance felonies from 2016, or the Inauguration.
Alvin Bragg is prosecuting him for some of the 2016 campaign finance felonies, sort of. I think the statute of limitations has otherwise expired . IMO the clock should have started on 1/20/23. DoJ's prime mission was to cover up TRE45QN crimes until then.
I know. My reference was more toward those who ignored their job before the statute of limitations expired.
Trump: “We had the safest border in the history of our country - or at least recorded history. I guess maybe a thousand years ago it was even better.”
Meh, I don't care about muddling the water with campaign finance party fouls when he's indicted for crimes literally threatening US democracy. Sorta like tagging a reckless driving charge onto a serial killer you just chased down.
Meh, I don't care about muddling the water with campaign finance party fouls when he's indicted for crimes literally threatening US democracy. Sorta like tagging a reckless driving charge onto a serial killer you just chased down.
I disagree. Our failure to rigorously enforce campaign finance law - not just with TRE45QN in 2016 - is also a massive threat to US democracy, arguably a greater one than the J6 one-off.
Meh, I don't care about muddling the water with campaign finance party fouls when he's indicted for crimes literally threatening US democracy. Sorta like tagging a reckless driving charge onto a serial killer you just chased down.
I disagree. Our failure to rigorously enforce campaign finance law - not just with TRE45QN in 2016 - is also a massive threat to US democracy, arguably a greater one than the J6 one-off.
I don't think the J6 debacle was as significant in itself as Trump's years-long erosion of long-held legal and societal principles culminating in - not originating in - a bonafide attempt to illegally overturn an election. However, even without all that, big violent events can create lasting impressions (unless they're mass shootings, of course) Thinking about Haymarket, Tiananmen Square, Kent State, Selma, etc. If people take from J6 that "the revolution has started" or as a rally point to "rise from oppression" then it becomes more than just a one-off event.
But sure - go ahead and throw in the reckless driving. Just don't let it get in the way of the murders.
Meh, I don't care about muddling the water with campaign finance party fouls when he's indicted for crimes literally threatening US democracy. Sorta like tagging a reckless driving charge onto a serial killer you just chased down.
My comment was meant facetiously to show my disgust at all the ignoring that went on for nearly 7 years. You are absolutely right - too late now, there's bigger things happening. I hope it's not too late.
Trump: “We had the safest border in the history of our country - or at least recorded history. I guess maybe a thousand years ago it was even better.”
I disagree. Our failure to rigorously enforce campaign finance law - not just with TRE45QN in 2016 - is also a massive threat to US democracy, arguably a greater one than the J6 one-off.
I don't think the J6 debacle was as significant in itself as Trump's years-long erosion of long-held legal and societal principles culminating in - not originating in - a bonafide attempt to illegally overturn an election. However, even without all that, big violent events can create lasting impressions (unless they're mass shootings, of course) Thinking about Haymarket, Tiananmen Square, Kent State, Selma, etc. If people take from J6 that "the revolution has started" or as a rally point to "rise from oppression" then it becomes more than just a one-off event.
But sure - go ahead and throw in the reckless driving. Just don't let it get in the way of the murders.
No one is arguing that it's even possible to "throw in the reckless driving" - statute of limitations. However, I do think that allowing TRE45QN to skate on early transgressions including the campaign finance felonies and Russia opened the door for "the murders" to come. It wasn't just the Dolt .45 and Biden DoJs either. The Dems refused to include anything other than the weaker Ukraine case in the first impeachment. Now, maybe we'll have more "big violent events" or maybe not, but it's certain that our US democracy will be corrupted by the flouting of election law. TRE45QN, Fascist DerSantis and a couple of others are already shamelessly doing so. Democracy dies.
Donald Trump publicly insisted on Monday that a key witness in Georgia’s grand jury probe shouldn’t testify this week as ordered—a brazen ask that one legal expert described as “witness tampering in real time.”
Georgia’s former Lt. Gov. Geoff Duncan, a Republican, was the witness at the center of the early morning tirade from Trump, who has been raging for weeks as the Fulton County grand jury is seemingly inching closer to filing criminal charges against him over alleged efforts to meddle in the 2020 presidential election in Georgia.
While singling Duncan out on Monday, Trump misspelled his first name....
Scores of legal experts were shocked by the brazen post.
“This morning’s first attempt at witness intimidation,” attorney George Conway, a frequent Trump critic whose ex-wife Kellyanne worked in the Trump administration, posted to Twitter....
No immunity deals. Elderly TRE45QN is not so very important that it's worth letting Meadows skate. Plus, there are plenty of other avenues for hanging TRE45QN.
... In a 98-page indictment made public late on Monday, prosecutors listed 41 charges against the 19 defendants.
Ms Willis announced she was giving defendants the opportunity to voluntarily surrender no later than noon on Friday 25 August. She said she plans to try all 19 accused together.
The list of alleged co-conspirators includes former Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani, former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows and former White House lawyer John Eastman.
Others include a former justice department official, Jeffrey Clark, and Sidney Powell and Jenna Ellis - two Trump lawyers who amplified unfounded claims of widespread voter fraud.
Brilliant!
The indictment says the defendants "knowingly and willfully joined a conspiracy to unlawfully change the outcome of the election in favour of Trump".
The former president is accused of the following felony counts, including:
Violating Georgia's racketeering act
Solicitation of violation of oath by public officer
Conspiracy to impersonate a public officer
Conspiracy to commit forgery in the first degree
False statements and writings and filing false documents
The indictment refers to the defendants as a "criminal organisation", accusing them of other crimes including influencing witnesses, computer trespass, theft and perjury.
The most serious charge, violating the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (Rico) Act, is punishable by a maximum of 20 years in prison....
Trump lost and tried to overturn the election, along with his alleged co-conspirators
That's literally the whole issue, Lindsey
I’m assuming he doesn’t get irony?
It WAS decided at the ballot box. Then they tried to illegally overturn it. That’s the entire fucking point.
But.. we literally did decide at the ballot box?
We had an election and more people voted for one guy than the other guy but the other guy was like “no” and then tried to overthrow the government and whoops now we have to deal with this shit.
Ironically, Graham et al didn’t accept the result of the ballot box.
Rebekah Jones
Uhm yeah. It WAS decided at the ballot box. He lost
“This should be decided at the ballot box,” he says about an indictment arising out of efforts to undermine the very result that the ballot box produced.
... But while all the cases will keep him busy — and give him opportunities for fundraising — they don't all pose the same level of threat. For some charges, he's unlikely to see jail time if he's convicted. Others could be much more dangerous for him if they get to a jury trial....
Here are all four cases, ranked from least to most threatening.
New York hush-money case ...
Jack Smith's Capitol riot case (Vrede's favorite) ...
Classified documents case ...
Georgia's RICO case
... if Trump is convicted, a judge can take his entire judicial history into account during sentencing, Ronald Carlson, a professor at the University of Georgia School of Law, said....
"The governor can't pardon here. It's the Board of Pardons and Paroles that has to grant that," Carlson said. "And here's the kicker: President Trump could only apply for a pardon if he were to be convicted only after he served five years in a Georgia penitentiary."
It would seem hard to believe that Lindsay wouldn't flip, given his various opposing public statements about Trump. He was pretty much like "Trump's a disaster, he's awful, and he should be defeated...hold my beer while I go kiss his ass."
. IMO the clock should have started on 1/20/23. DoJ's prime mission was to cover up TRE45QN crimes until then.
No one is arguing that it's even possible to "throw in the reckless driving" - statute of limitations. However, I do think that allowing TRE45QN to skate on early transgressions including the campaign finance felonies and Russia opened the door for "the murders" to come. It wasn't just the Dolt .45 and Biden DoJs either. The Dems refused to include anything other than the weaker Ukraine case in the first impeachment. Now, maybe we'll have more "big violent events" or maybe not, but it's certain that our US democracy will be corrupted by the flouting of election law. TRE45QN, Fascist DerSantis and a couple of others are already shamelessly doing so. Democracy dies.We can take comfort in the knowledge that Trumpettes aren't very smart, not even the lawyers at the top of the dung heap:
. The righteous prosecutions of TRE45QN will only end with his death.
LOCK THEM ALL UP!
