21-21 at the half. I believe!
Game over. Oh well, good to know that RW god is vulnerable. Unranked Liberty is unlikely to add to its 5 votes. I don't get the Big Ten Network here, so couldn't watch. I was happy for the final score, but didn't know that this happened:
Wow, that is a Colorado-level choke.'It just seemed like an avalanche': Michigan State blows 18-point lead in fourth-quarter collapse vs. Rutgers
... In less than a five-minute span early in the fourth quarter, MSU allowed three Rutgers touchdowns, two set up by stunning special-teams blunders by the Spartans, who botched a snap on a punt and failed to recover a kickoff.
It all made for a happy Homecoming for what was left of the Rutgers crowd — years from now, 100,000 people will claim to have been there, and at least 95,000 of them will be lying ...
) 2-0 today, 2-1 for the week.Vrede too wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 5:43 pmGO:
7:00 PM CBSSN
Florida International (3-4) > @Sam Houston (0-6, -5.5
17-17. SHSU kicks FG with 0:28 left, 17-20. Game over, right? NO, FIU drives file and 36 yd FG GOOD with 0:05 left, 20-20. OT!
1st play SHSU runs 25 yards for a TD, 20-27.
FIU TD, 27-27!
FIU 25 yard touchdown pass (2pt attempt failed), 33-27. Final score!!! Yippie!
9:00 PM ESPN2
New Mexico State (4-3, -3.0) > @UTEP (2-5)
28-7 stomping
Likely only one each from the Big Ten and SEC.Heisman Trophy Odds Suggest That Michael Penix Jr. Is A Lock To Win
The Huskies are led by quarterback Michael Penix Jr. After a late victory over Oregon last Saturday, Washington is now among the top four NCAAF programs listed in the CFP Championship futures.
Washington has also leapfrogged the red-hot Oklahoma Sooners in the latest rankings. The Huskies now have a legitimate shot at qualifying for the CFP if they can win out.
2023-2024 NCAA Championship Winner
Michigan +310
Georgia +325
Florida State +700
Washington +750
Ohio State +800
LSU +1000
Oklahoma +1400
Penn State +1400
Alabama +1500
Texas +1500
GoHuskiesGo!Washington is now among the top four teams in our latest CFP brackets based on the current NCAAF futures odds. If these projections hold true, Washington would face the Wolverines in the first round of the CFP.
Go Traitor Huskies Go, then Traitor Ducks will be okay, too. Loyal Beavers or Cougars winning would be an apt FU to all the traitors.Pac-12 Championship Odds
Washington Huskies +125
Oregon Ducks +240
USC Trojans +325
Oregon State Beavers +750
Utah Utes +1200
UCLA Bruins +5000
Washington State Cougars +5000
The Huskies are also a heavy favorite to win the Pac-12 Championship before all but two programs depart for other conferences at the end of this season. Next year, Washington will join the Big Ten Conference, where they’ll get a chance to routinely play the likes of Michigan and Ohio State.
NoWolverinesNo!Michigan quarterback J.J. McCarthy has jumped to the front of the pack in the following 2023 Heisman betting odds.
GoHuskyGo!2023 Heisman Trophy Odds
Michael Penix Jr. -150
J.J. McCarthy +850
Dillon Gabriel (Oklahoma) +900
Jordan Travis (FSU
Jayden Daniels (LSU) +1200
Drake Maye (UNC
Caleb Williams (USC) +2800
Bo Nix (Ducks
Carson Beck (GA
Blake Corum (Michigan
Kyle McCord (Ohio State) +5000
Quinn Ewers (Texas
Drew Allar (Penn State
Marvin Harrison Jr. (Ohio State, would be cool to see a wide receiver get it. His dad is widely considered one of the greatest wide receivers in NFL history.) +7500
Sam Hartman (Notre Dame) +7500
Shedeur Sanders (CO
I won't count a loss in my tally. 0-55 I won't count a win in my tally.
) > Army. I won't count a win in my tally. ) > Arizona State. Go Lady O Go Vrede too wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 9:30 pmFBS Saturday, October 21, 2023
All times EDT
GO:
12:00 PM
FOX
@3 Ohio State (-5.0) > 7 Penn State. Huge game, winner is in Playoff position.
OSU hangs on to defeat undefeated PSU 20-1211 Rec 162 Yds 14.7 Avg 35 Long 1 TD to lead all receivers in the gameVrede too wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2023 12:31 pm2023 Heisman Trophy Odds
Marvin Harrison Jr. (Ohio State, would be cool to see a wide receiver get it. His dad is widely considered one of the greatest wide receivers in NFL history.) +7500
ABC
Unranked UCF > @6 Oklahoma (-17.5). I won't count a loss in my tally, but GoMouseGo!
UCF down 1, OK run for 30 yds for a TD with 3:13 left, 23-31. UCF drives the field, 4th down 12 yd pass TD with 1:16 left!!! Trick play 2 point attempt failed
CBS
@Navy > 22 Air Force (-10.0). Knock it back out of the rankings. 6-17
BTN
Rutgers (-6.0) > @Indiana. 31-14
BIG12|ESPN+
@Cincinnati (-3.0) > Baylor. RW TX god sucks.
Strong comeback in the 4th, but short, 29-32
Also
I didn't really care, but Mississippi State 7, @Arkansas 3 is a baseball score.
Charlotte (1-5) 10 vs @East Carolina (1-5, -6.0) 7. NC Loser Bowl
3:30 PM
ABC
@Traitor 9 Oregon (-20.0) > Loyal Washington State. 38-24
Auburn refugee Bo Nix sets NCAA mark for most career starts - 54.CBS... With his 54th start, Nix — who transferred to Oregon from Auburn before the 2022 season — passed Boise State's Kellen Moore and Colt McCoy of Texas, who made 53 during their careers....
Oregon: Visit (Traitor 14) Utah on Saturday.
17 Tennessee > @11 Alabama (-9.0). Big game.
TN up 13-0 in the 1st 20-7 at the half. I believe!
4:00 PM FOX
8 Texas (-23.5) > @unranked Houston
I reconsidered my pick during the game on behalf of OR and UNC. Houston recovery from 21-0. Texas red zone stand - downs at 1:03, 31-24. It MIGHT even drop in the rankings. GoUNCGo!
6:30 PM CW NETWORK
@10 North Carolina (-23.5) > Virginia. I won't count a win in my tally.
UNC might move up even though this is a crappy game. Go O Really Go
Huge opportunity when UVA fumbled the ball away in the UNC endzone, drove the field, turned the ball over on downs at the UVA 20 with 3:12 - 4th, arrrggghhh.
viewtopic.php?p=190684#p190684SORRY! Punt forced, but then threw an INT, 27-31, first UVA victory over a Top Ten team since 2005. Catastrophe
7:00 PM
ESPN
@Auburn > 13 Ole Miss (-6.5). It's redemption time.
21-28, Vegas is spot on, sorry.
ESPN2
@Kansas State (-5.5) > TCU. 41-3
NFL NET
Appalachian State (-5.5) > @Old Dominion
Oh nooooo! OD, down by one, scores the winning TD with 0:48 left, 21-28, 1st OD win over App ever
7:30 PM
ABC
16 Duke > @4 Florida State (-14.0). Huge game.
Duke led through the 3rd . . . until early in the 4thCollapsed
WCU, UNC, ASU - It's a dark dark dark dark day in NC
SECN
@19 LSU (-32.0
62-0Russian Army?
8:00 PM
FOX
@18 USC -7.0 > 14 Utah. Big game for the Pac-12.
USC down 26-31, 61 yard punt return to the UT 11, run TD next play with 1:47 - 4th, 32-31
ACCN
@Miami > Clemson (-3.0). Go O Really Go
10-0 Miami comeback in the 4th, 17-17 OT! 28-20 in 2OT!!! CONGRATS!
9:00 PM FS2
@San Diego State (-11.5) > Nevada. Go O Really Go
10:30 PM
FS1
@5 Washington (-27.5
I won't count a win in my tally.
ESPN
25 UCLA (-17.0) > @Stanford. I won't count a win in my tally.
Vrede too wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:57 pmThu, Oct 19
10 North Carolina Central > @Morgan State 16-10
FCS Saturday, October 21, 2023
Idk why neither ESPN nor Yahoo post FCS point spreads until late if at all.
I think they wait until just before kickoff. At 5 PM there are still no ESPN spreads posted for the games that haven't started
6 Montana has a bye week.
GO:
2:30 PM ESPN+
@14 Western Carolina (-3.0
Iced with an FU run for 53 yds for a TD with 0:54 - 4th, 17-29
3:00 PM ESPN+
@12 Southern Illinois > 1 South Dakota State (-14). Huge game.
4th qtr comeback short, 10-17
8:00 PM ESPN+
@McNeese (0-6) > 5 Incarnate Word (-21). Not likely
I won't count a loss in my tally
10:30 PM ESPN2
2 Montana State (-9.0) > @4 Sacramento State. Huge game.
My FCS 1-2Vrede too wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 5:44 pmVrede too wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:57 pmFCS Saturday, October 21, 2023
Idk why neither ESPN nor Yahoo post FCS point spreads until late if at all.
I think they wait until just before kickoff. At 5 PM there are still no ESPN spreads posted for the games that haven't started
6 Montana has a bye week.
GO:
2:30 PM ESPN+
@14 Western Carolina (-3.0
Iced with an FU run for 53 yds for a TD with 0:54 - 4th, 17-29
3:00 PM ESPN+
@12 Southern Illinois > 1 South Dakota State (-14). Huge game.
4th qtr comeback short, 10-17
8:00 PM ESPN+
@McNeese (0-6) > 5 Incarnate Word (-21). Not likely
I won't count a loss in my tally
10:30 PM ESPN2
2 Montana State (-9.0) > @4 Sacramento State. Huge game.
42-30
Vrede too wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 4:02 pm5-9 today, 6-10 with FCS, 8-11 for the week.Vrede too wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 9:30 pmFBS Saturday, October 21, 2023
All times EDT
GO:
12:00 PM
FOX
@3 Ohio State (-5.0) > 7 Penn State. Huge game, winner is in Playoff position.
OSU hangs on to defeat undefeated PSU 20-1211 Rec 162 Yds 14.7 Avg 35 Long 1 TD to lead all receivers in the gameVrede too wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2023 12:31 pm2023 Heisman Trophy Odds
Marvin Harrison Jr. (Ohio State, would be cool to see a wide receiver get it. His dad is widely considered one of the greatest wide receivers in NFL history.) +7500
ABC
Unranked UCF > @6 Oklahoma (-17.5). I won't count a loss in my tally, but GoMouseGo!
UCF down 1, OK run for 30 yds for a TD with 3:13 left, 23-31. UCF drives the field, 4th down 12 yd pass TD with 1:16 left!!! Trick play 2 point attempt failed
CBS
@Navy > 22 Air Force (-10.0). Knock it back out of the rankings. 6-17
BTN
Rutgers (-6.0) > @Indiana. 31-14
BIG12|ESPN+
@Cincinnati (-3.0) > Baylor. RW TX god sucks.
Strong comeback in the 4th, but short, 29-32
Also
I didn't really care, but Mississippi State 7, @Arkansas 3 is a baseball score.
Charlotte (1-5) 10 vs @East Carolina (1-5, -6.0) 7. NC Loser Bowl
3:30 PM
ABC
@Traitor 9 Oregon (-20.0) > Loyal Washington State. 38-24
Auburn refugee Bo Nix sets NCAA mark for most career starts - 54.CBS... With his 54th start, Nix — who transferred to Oregon from Auburn before the 2022 season — passed Boise State's Kellen Moore and Colt McCoy of Texas, who made 53 during their careers....
Oregon: Visit (Traitor 14) Utah on Saturday.
17 Tennessee > @11 Alabama (-9.0). Big game.
TN up 13-0 in the 1st 20-7 at the half. I believe!
4:00 PM FOX
8 Texas (-23.5) > @unranked Houston
I reconsidered my pick during the game on behalf of OR and UNC. Houston recovery from 21-0. Texas red zone stand - downs at 1:03, 31-24. It MIGHT even drop in the rankings. GoUNCGo!
6:30 PM CW NETWORK
@10 North Carolina (-23.5) > Virginia. I won't count a win in my tally.
UNC might move up even though this is a crappy game. Go O Really Go
Huge opportunity when UVA fumbled the ball away in the UNC endzone, drove the field, turned the ball over on downs at the UVA 20 with 3:12 - 4th, arrrggghhh.
viewtopic.php?p=190684#p190684SORRY! Punt forced, but then threw an INT, 27-31, first UVA victory over a Top Ten team since 2005. Catastrophe
7:00 PM
ESPN
@Auburn > 13 Ole Miss (-6.5). It's redemption time.
21-28, Vegas is spot on, sorry.
ESPN2
@Kansas State (-5.5) > TCU. 41-3
NFL NET
Appalachian State (-5.5) > @Old Dominion
Oh nooooo! OD, down by one, scores the winning TD with 0:48 left, 21-28, 1st OD win over App ever
7:30 PM
ABC
16 Duke > @4 Florida State (-14.0). Huge game.
Duke led through the 3rd . . . until early in the 4th
WCU, UNC, ASU - It's a dark dark dark dark day in NC
SECN
@19 LSU (-32.0
62-0
8:00 PM
FOX
@18 USC -7.0 > 14 Utah. Big game for the Pac-12.
USC down 26-31, 61 yard punt return to the UT 11, run TD next play with 1:47 - 4th, 32-31
ACCN
@Miami > Clemson (-3.0). Go O Really Go
10-0 Miami comeback in the 4th, 17-17 OT! 28-20 in 2OT!!! CONGRATS!
9:00 PM FS2
@San Diego State (-11.5) > Nevada. Go O Really Go
NV lost 16 straight, SDSU took pity on them, 0-6, another baseball score.
10:30 PM
FS1
@5 Washington (-27.5
I won't count a win in my tally. Good thing the Husky defense showed up, it scored the team's only TD on an 89 Yd Interception Return! 15-7 final, phew.
ESPN
25 UCLA (-17.0) > @Stanford. I won't count a win in my tally. 42-7
Losers: 7, 10, 16, 17, 18, 24
TX and OR may move up.
UNC will drop.
AL will move up.
Iowa will drop out of the rankings.
There will be other fine tuning.
Next @13 Utah, huge game. The only Top 10 team playing a ranked opponent 3 Pac-12 teams in the Top 11 is rare Next @18 Louisville - good game? Next vs the Primetime Family in LA, go football GoO ReallyGo, (35 tie) 1 vote last week
Closer to, most sec people who have player bammer close agree with billy.p that not only game officials, but also everyone involved in rules enforcement turns a blind eye to bammer cheating, be it stealing sign, or selling autographed jerseys at the mall store. Hell, they even cheat on on the arithmetic necessary to count their championships.O Really wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 10:09 pmSomebody agrees with billy p on Bammer cheating refs.
https://atozsports.com/nashville/tennes ... -football/
The lack of investigation is also a bit strange. Nana pays their top basketball player no problem, Auburn assistant coach pays player’s mom 1/10 the amount and he’s out for a year and a half.O Really wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 10:09 pmSomebody agrees with billy p on Bammer cheating refs.
https://atozsports.com/nashville/tennes ... -football/
FCS Coaches Poll
Next @9 South Dakota. Huge game, go SD Next @8 Idaho. Huge game no change You didn't link a "sign stealing incident". Here:billy.pilgrim wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 9:40 pmThe lack of investigation is also a bit strange. Nana pays their top basketball player no problem, Auburn assistant coach pays player’s mom 1/10 the amount and he’s out for a year and a half.O Really wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 10:09 pmSomebody agrees with billy p on Bammer cheating refs.
https://atozsports.com/nashville/tennes ... -football/
Or runs a gun used in a murder - no big deal
Football players have their autographs sold in the mall.
Nice to see the ncaa investigating this sign stealing incident, too bad they never investigated nick and Kirby for doing the same at bama.
https://www.on3.com/news/college-footba ... p-at-no-1/
Busted! "with pay"???Connor Stalions, the suspended Michigan staffer at the center of the NCAA's sign-stealing probe, purchased tickets in his own name for more than 30 games over the past three years at 11 different Big Ten schools, sources at 11 different league schools told ESPN.
The scope of the University of Michigan's alleged sign-stealing operation includes both video evidence of electronics prohibited by the NCAA to steal signs and a significant paper trail, sources told ESPN. Stalions forwarded the tickets he bought to at least three different people in different areas of the country, sources say, which hints at the breadth of the operation.
The NCAA is expected to receive video evidence this week of illegal technology used in scouting tied to tickets purchased by Stalions, according to sources. An opposing Big Ten school looked up in-stadium surveillance video from a game earlier this year, and sources said the person in the seat of the ticket purchased by Stalions held his smartphone up and appeared to film the home team's sideline the entire game.
Sources confirmed to ESPN that Stalions purchased tickets on both sides of the stadium -- across from each bench -- for Ohio State's game with Penn State on Saturday. Michigan plays both teams in upcoming weeks. According to sources, the tickets purchased by Stalions were not used Saturday. Stalions' name emerged publicly in an ESPN story Friday. He was suspended with pay by Michigan.
Idiot, not even good at disguising his involvement or cheating.None of the tickets that the 11 schools told ESPN about involved Michigan as an opponent, per sources. The games involved either one or both of the teams that the Wolverines were playing later that season, according to sources.
Move fast, NCAA and Big Ten, kick it out of Playoffs and Bowls this year.... Michigan is ranked No. 2 in the AP poll, looking for its third consecutive trip to the College Football Playoff. It is the current betting favorite to win the national title.
Wolverine boosters, of course.... The ticket purchases fall into a seat location pattern -- somewhere around the 45-yard line and raised up enough for a clear view of the opposite sideline.
... In the back half of last season, for example, tickets were bought by Stalions on both sidelines for one league game in which Michigan had both opponents remaining on the schedule.
... It's uncertain who was funding the purchases. Stalions makes $55,000 per year, according to the University of Michigan's website. But the operation included thousands of dollars in ticket sales and the cost of travel to the stadiums.
... Stalions is a former captain in the United States Marine Corps who boasted on LinkedIn of his knack for "identifying and exploiting critical vulnerabilities and centers of gravity in the opponent scouting process."
So much for Marine honor.
... Soon after ESPN identified him as a central part of the probe, he erased multiple social media accounts.
So much for Marine courage and accountability.
Harbaugh knew. This happened too often and for too long to be oblivious, and it's what RW xtians do.Michigan, which was already involved in an NCAA investigation for alleged illegal recruiting during the COVID-19 dead period, has pledged full cooperation with the latest investigation. There's no precedent to indicate what any potential punishment would be for Michigan or coach Jim Harbaugh, as NCAA enforcement has never seen a case of this scope in signal stealing.
The allegations against Michigan could be greater than what got the New England Patriots in trouble during the Spygate scandal that unfolded during the 2007 season. The crux of those allegations revolved around in-game taping of opponents' signals during Patriots games.
The potential of these allegations being added to the NCAA case could increase Harbaugh's exposure to punishment by the NCAA's head coach responsibility rules, which essentially state the head coach is responsible for everything that happens in his program, whether they are aware of it or not.
Harbaugh said after Michigan's 49-0 win over Michigan State: "There's been stuff. There's been attempts to diminish the team in a lot of ways, starting with the easy schedule. They just play."
Victim, it's what RW xtians do.
Liar, it's what RW xtians do. Fire him, ban him from football, now!Last week, he denied "illegally stealing signals" in a statement.
"I do not have any knowledge or information regarding the University of Michigan football program illegally stealing signals, nor have I directed any staff member or others to participate in an off-campus scouting assignment," he said on Thursday. "I have no awareness of anyone on our staff having done that or having directed that action....
True, and I also didn’t include links for any of the bammer scams. Kirby Smart and Sabin were both involved in reading sign in the 2010 Iron Bowl - cricketsVrede too wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 10:53 pmYou didn't link a "sign stealing incident". Here:billy.pilgrim wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 9:40 pmThe lack of investigation is also a bit strange. Nana pays their top basketball player no problem, Auburn assistant coach pays player’s mom 1/10 the amount and he’s out for a year and a half.O Really wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 10:09 pmSomebody agrees with billy p on Bammer cheating refs.
https://atozsports.com/nashville/tennes ... -football/
Or runs a gun used in a murder - no big deal
Football players have their autographs sold in the mall.
Nice to see the ncaa investigating this sign stealing incident, too bad they never investigated nick and Kirby for doing the same at bama.
https://www.on3.com/news/college-footba ... p-at-no-1/
Sources: Michigan staffer had tickets at 11 Big Ten schools
Speaking of cheaters, this is huge.Busted! "with pay"???Connor Stalions, the suspended Michigan staffer at the center of the NCAA's sign-stealing probe, purchased tickets in his own name for more than 30 games over the past three years at 11 different Big Ten schools, sources at 11 different league schools told ESPN.
The scope of the University of Michigan's alleged sign-stealing operation includes both video evidence of electronics prohibited by the NCAA to steal signs and a significant paper trail, sources told ESPN. Stalions forwarded the tickets he bought to at least three different people in different areas of the country, sources say, which hints at the breadth of the operation.
The NCAA is expected to receive video evidence this week of illegal technology used in scouting tied to tickets purchased by Stalions, according to sources. An opposing Big Ten school looked up in-stadium surveillance video from a game earlier this year, and sources said the person in the seat of the ticket purchased by Stalions held his smartphone up and appeared to film the home team's sideline the entire game.
Sources confirmed to ESPN that Stalions purchased tickets on both sides of the stadium -- across from each bench -- for Ohio State's game with Penn State on Saturday. Michigan plays both teams in upcoming weeks. According to sources, the tickets purchased by Stalions were not used Saturday. Stalions' name emerged publicly in an ESPN story Friday. He was suspended with pay by Michigan.Idiot, not even good at disguising his involvement or cheating.None of the tickets that the 11 schools told ESPN about involved Michigan as an opponent, per sources. The games involved either one or both of the teams that the Wolverines were playing later that season, according to sources.Move fast, NCAA and Big Ten, kick it out of Playoffs and Bowls this year.... Michigan is ranked No. 2 in the AP poll, looking for its third consecutive trip to the College Football Playoff. It is the current betting favorite to win the national title.Wolverine boosters, of course.... The ticket purchases fall into a seat location pattern -- somewhere around the 45-yard line and raised up enough for a clear view of the opposite sideline.
... In the back half of last season, for example, tickets were bought by Stalions on both sidelines for one league game in which Michigan had both opponents remaining on the schedule.
... It's uncertain who was funding the purchases. Stalions makes $55,000 per year, according to the University of Michigan's website. But the operation included thousands of dollars in ticket sales and the cost of travel to the stadiums.... Stalions is a former captain in the United States Marine Corps who boasted on LinkedIn of his knack for "identifying and exploiting critical vulnerabilities and centers of gravity in the opponent scouting process."... Soon after ESPN identified him as a central part of the probe, he erased multiple social media accounts.Harbaugh knew. This happened too often and for too long to be oblivious, and it's what RW xtians do.Michigan, which was already involved in an NCAA investigation for alleged illegal recruiting during the COVID-19 dead period, has pledged full cooperation with the latest investigation. There's no precedent to indicate what any potential punishment would be for Michigan or coach Jim Harbaugh, as NCAA enforcement has never seen a case of this scope in signal stealing.
The allegations against Michigan could be greater than what got the New England Patriots in trouble during the Spygate scandal that unfolded during the 2007 season. The crux of those allegations revolved around in-game taping of opponents' signals during Patriots games.
The potential of these allegations being added to the NCAA case could increase Harbaugh's exposure to punishment by the NCAA's head coach responsibility rules, which essentially state the head coach is responsible for everything that happens in his program, whether they are aware of it or not.Harbaugh said after Michigan's 49-0 win over Michigan State: "There's been stuff. There's been attempts to diminish the team in a lot of ways, starting with the easy schedule. They just play."Liar, it's what RW xtians do. Fire him, ban him from football, now!Last week, he denied "illegally stealing signals" in a statement.
"I do not have any knowledge or information regarding the University of Michigan football program illegally stealing signals, nor have I directed any staff member or others to participate in an off-campus scouting assignment," he said on Thursday. "I have no awareness of anyone on our staff having done that or having directed that action....