Billy Graham suggesting Mormons are a cult.

Generally an unmoderated forum for discussion of pretty much any topic. The focus however, is usually politics.
Post Reply
User avatar
billy.pilgrim
Admiral
Posts: 15632
Joined: Wed Oct 10, 2012 1:44 pm

Re: Billy Graham suggesting Mormons are a cult.

Unread post by billy.pilgrim »

blackfoot wrote:
Crock Hunter wrote:Existence is not proof of intelligent design.. Never has been.. never will be...
Then name something that exist by design that had no designer.

and then you are going to provide the name and the address of the degigner?
Trump: “We had the safest border in the history of our country - or at least recorded history. I guess maybe a thousand years ago it was even better.”

User avatar
billy.pilgrim
Admiral
Posts: 15632
Joined: Wed Oct 10, 2012 1:44 pm

Re: Billy Graham suggesting Mormons are a cult.

Unread post by billy.pilgrim »

Tertius wrote:There is only one time to question another's religious faith. When that religion seeks to prevent you from the free practice of your religious faith. That is exactly what Islam says. It is the only religion I know of that in its proper practice followers must prevent the practice of any other religious faith.

hmmmm, then all that moses genocide crap wasn't real, I reckon
Trump: “We had the safest border in the history of our country - or at least recorded history. I guess maybe a thousand years ago it was even better.”

blackfoot
Pilot Officer
Posts: 154
Joined: Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:32 am

Re: Billy Graham suggesting Mormons are a cult.

Unread post by blackfoot »

AntiAlias wrote: By all means, present this proof of an intelligent designer to us.

Like I told "Crock", (I like that name, it fits the ol boy), lets start with the most common example, "Human Genome", intricate design, unexplainable thus far, obviously intelligent mapping going on here. Fact.... intricate detail is never formed from chaos.

blackfoot
Pilot Officer
Posts: 154
Joined: Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:32 am

Re: Billy Graham suggesting Mormons are a cult.

Unread post by blackfoot »

billy.pilgrim wrote:
blackfoot wrote:
Crock Hunter wrote:Existence is not proof of intelligent design.. Never has been.. never will be...
Then name something that exist by design that had no designer.

and then you are going to provide the name and the address of the degigner?

Yes.

User avatar
billy.pilgrim
Admiral
Posts: 15632
Joined: Wed Oct 10, 2012 1:44 pm

Re: Billy Graham suggesting Mormons are a cult.

Unread post by billy.pilgrim »

ut oh

please speak the name of the one and only true creator, so that we may know you for what you are
Trump: “We had the safest border in the history of our country - or at least recorded history. I guess maybe a thousand years ago it was even better.”

User avatar
neoplacebo
Admiral of the Fleet
Posts: 12440
Joined: Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:42 pm
Location: Kingsport TN

Re: Billy Graham suggesting Mormons are a cult.

Unread post by neoplacebo »

billy.pilgrim wrote:ut oh

please speak the name of the one and only true creator, so that we may know you for what you are
Jim

User avatar
neoplacebo
Admiral of the Fleet
Posts: 12440
Joined: Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:42 pm
Location: Kingsport TN

Re: Billy Graham suggesting Mormons are a cult.

Unread post by neoplacebo »

Tertius wrote:There is only one time to question another's religious faith. When that religion seeks to prevent you from the free practice of your religious faith. That is exactly what Islam says. It is the only religion I know of that in its proper practice followers must prevent the practice of any other religious faith.
Last I heard, if you don't believe in Jesus you'll die and go to hell. Isn't that like, uh, not believing in any other religion?

User avatar
billy.pilgrim
Admiral
Posts: 15632
Joined: Wed Oct 10, 2012 1:44 pm

Re: Billy Graham suggesting Mormons are a cult.

Unread post by billy.pilgrim »

neoplacebo wrote:
billy.pilgrim wrote:ut oh

please speak the name of the one and only true creator, so that we may know you for what you are
Jim
fred?
Trump: “We had the safest border in the history of our country - or at least recorded history. I guess maybe a thousand years ago it was even better.”

User avatar
Crock Hunter
Lieutenant Colonel
Posts: 648
Joined: Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:40 pm
Location: THIS USER IS BANNED

Re: Billy Graham suggesting Mormons are a cult.

Unread post by Crock Hunter »

blackfoot wrote: Like I told "Crock", (I like that name, it fits the ol boy),.
Then I gather the "foot" in blackfoot refers to the one you keep in your mouth.. .

blackfoot wrote: lets start with the most common example, "Human Genome", intricate design, unexplainable thus far, obviously intelligent mapping going on here.
Maybe unexplainable to you but the notion of "Irreducible Complexity" collapsed long ago.. it is an argument from ignorance... Even your "intricate design, unexplainable thus far" strand of DNA has many precursor systems... ..
blackfoot wrote: Fact.... intricate detail is never formed from chaos.
Fact... intricate detail is very often formed from chaos.. .. . Mandelbrot

Image


. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .


.. By all means .. escort your next strawman to the gallows...
`~~~:< .. Welcome to the Swamp.. .. Swim Fast..

User avatar
Tertius
Squadron Leader
Posts: 379
Joined: Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:07 pm

Re: Billy Graham suggesting Mormons are a cult.

Unread post by Tertius »

neoplacebo wrote:
Tertius wrote:There is only one time to question another's religious faith. When that religion seeks to prevent you from the free practice of your religious faith. That is exactly what Islam says. It is the only religion I know of that in its proper practice followers must prevent the practice of any other religious faith.
Last I heard, if you don't believe in Jesus you'll die and go to hell. Isn't that like, uh, not believing in any other religion?
Speaking for myself. Christ is my Savior. I believe this as a matter of faith. There is nothing that tells me I need to kill you so you will go to hell for not having the same faith. You, heaven and hell are between you and God. I make no judgement about you and God.

User avatar
Tertius
Squadron Leader
Posts: 379
Joined: Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:07 pm

Re: Billy Graham suggesting Mormons are a cult.

Unread post by Tertius »

Crock Hunter wrote:
blackfoot wrote: Like I told "Crock", (I like that name, it fits the ol boy),.
Then I gather the "foot" in blackfoot refers to the one you keep in your mouth.. .

blackfoot wrote: lets start with the most common example, "Human Genome", intricate design, unexplainable thus far, obviously intelligent mapping going on here.
Maybe unexplainable to you but the notion of "Irreducible Complexity" collapsed long ago.. it is an argument from ignorance... Even your "intricate design, unexplainable thus far" strand of DNA has many precursor systems... ..
blackfoot wrote: Fact.... intricate detail is never formed from chaos.
Fact... intricate detail is very often formed from chaos.. .. . Mandelbrot

Image

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .


.. By all means .. escort your next strawman to the gallows...
If you measured the total number of sticks at the various lengths it takes to build a simple little doll house. You took those sticks and threw them on the floor. How long would it take you and how many throws would it take to throw a simple doll house.

AntiAlias
Pilot Officer
Posts: 158
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:14 am

Re: Billy Graham suggesting Mormons are a cult.

Unread post by AntiAlias »

blackfoot wrote:
AntiAlias wrote: By all means, present this proof of an intelligent designer to us.

Like I told "Crock", (I like that name, it fits the ol boy), lets start with the most common example, "Human Genome", intricate design, unexplainable thus far, obviously intelligent mapping going on here. Fact.... intricate detail is never formed from chaos.
You can't demonstrate that the human genome is designed. So no, let's not start with that.

blackfoot
Pilot Officer
Posts: 154
Joined: Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:32 am

Re: Billy Graham suggesting Mormons are a cult.

Unread post by blackfoot »

billy.pilgrim wrote:ut oh

please speak the name of the one and only true creator, so that we may know you for what you are
I will, when you..." name something that exist by design that had no designer."

ut oh....

blackfoot
Pilot Officer
Posts: 154
Joined: Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:32 am

Re: Billy Graham suggesting Mormons are a cult.

Unread post by blackfoot »

Crock Hunter wrote:
Then I gather the "foot" in blackfoot refers to the one you keep in your mouth.. .
What a crock.

Care to try again to name something that was created from "nothing"?

User avatar
Bungalow Bill
Ensign
Posts: 1340
Joined: Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:12 pm
Location: Downtown Mills River

Re: Billy Graham suggesting Mormons are a cult.

Unread post by Bungalow Bill »

Okay, maybe Mr. B is a little bit of both: harmless nonsense that is sometimes charming.

All the supernaturalisms are basically the same, lacking in any empirical proof and
asking people to believe in the ridiculous through faith. Only the diets, chants, etc.
are different. We know that in the natural world something that exists by design has
a designer or designers. That doesn't translate to the supernatural realm.

blackfoot
Pilot Officer
Posts: 154
Joined: Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:32 am

Re: Billy Graham suggesting Mormons are a cult.

Unread post by blackfoot »

AntiAlias wrote:
blackfoot wrote:
AntiAlias wrote: By all means, present this proof of an intelligent designer to us.

Like I told "Crock", (I like that name, it fits the ol boy), lets start with the most common example, "Human Genome", intricate design, unexplainable thus far, obviously intelligent mapping going on here. Fact.... intricate detail is never formed from chaos.
You can't demonstrate that the human genome is designed. So no, let's not start with that.

Science not one of your strong points I see.....not surprising.

Something that was created from nothing? Come on...try harder....

User avatar
billy.pilgrim
Admiral
Posts: 15632
Joined: Wed Oct 10, 2012 1:44 pm

Re: Billy Graham suggesting Mormons are a cult.

Unread post by billy.pilgrim »

blackfoot wrote:
billy.pilgrim wrote:ut oh

please speak the name of the one and only true creator, so that we may know you for what you are
I will, when you..." name something that exist by design that had no designer."

ut oh....

oh now bf, how can I name something that I don't know; my mind is open and unlike you, I make no claims to know the unknown.
I prefer a wait and see attitude. you on the other hand, claim to know the answer that billions before you have tried to answer and who have arrived at billions of individual conclusions.

so fess up and tell us what up know or attack me for something i didn't say (that's what tag-along does)
Trump: “We had the safest border in the history of our country - or at least recorded history. I guess maybe a thousand years ago it was even better.”

AntiAlias
Pilot Officer
Posts: 158
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:14 am

Re: Billy Graham suggesting Mormons are a cult.

Unread post by AntiAlias »

blackfoot wrote:
Crock Hunter wrote:
Then I gather the "foot" in blackfoot refers to the one you keep in your mouth.. .
What a crock.

Care to try again to name something that was created from "nothing"?
Easy. The universe.

User avatar
billy.pilgrim
Admiral
Posts: 15632
Joined: Wed Oct 10, 2012 1:44 pm

Re: Billy Graham suggesting Mormons are a cult.

Unread post by billy.pilgrim »

I threw together a pretty good dinner tonight from almost nothing
Trump: “We had the safest border in the history of our country - or at least recorded history. I guess maybe a thousand years ago it was even better.”

AntiAlias
Pilot Officer
Posts: 158
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:14 am

Re: Billy Graham suggesting Mormons are a cult.

Unread post by AntiAlias »

Science not one of your strong points I see.....not surprising.

Something that was created from nothing? Come on...try harder...
Nice dodge. Demonstrate how the human genome was designed or GTFO.

Post Reply