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Tempe police arrest suspect accused of multiple cases of political violence
Suspect is accused of shooting incidents targeting the DNC office in Tempe in recent weeks and placing substances with political signs in Ahwatukee


Tempe police arrested a suspect accused of hanging suspicious bags of white powder from several political signs lined with razor blades in Ahwatukee. The department says the same suspect is accused of three separate shooting incidents targeting the DNC office in Tempe in recent weeks.

Officials have identified the suspect accused of the crimes as 60-year-old Jeffrey Michael Kelly.


Tempe PD Update On Political Tampering Arrest

Kelly was arrested on charges that include unlawful discharge, shooting at a non-residential structure, terrorism, and criminal damage....

Evidence collected during the investigation included .22-caliber casings that were found in Kelly's trash bin, Google searches of the DNC office location, and searches for firearm conversions and accessories....

The Maricopa County Attorney’s Office said ATF investigators searched his home where they located more than 120 guns, more than 250,000 rounds of ammunition, body armor, a grenade launcher, and other weapon-related items.

Officials also reportedly located evidence tying him to the incidents including a vehicle seen on surveillance video and multiple license plates....
:shock: Good thing he was stupid enough to get popped doing petty stuff before he scaled up. Destroy all of his arms and lock him up!
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C'mon citizens, crush this crap with your votes:
Polling incident turns physical after Trump voter calls Black election worker ‘F–king b–h’
“To see someone resort to that type of aggression against a room full of women ... It's upsetting,” South Carolina Democratic Party chairwoman Christale Spain told theGrio.


An incident at a polling station in Orangeburg, South Carolina, involving an apparent Trump supporter who berated a group of Black female poll workers on Wednesday resulted in a state investigation.

The incident turned physical during early voting after a white man sporting a pro-Trump cap used expletives when told he could not wear the political paraphernalia. According to WIS News 10, the male voter wore a “Let’s Go Brandon” hat. The coded term is a known anti-President Joe Biden phrase for “F–k Joe Biden.”

When the man was told he could not wear the hat while voting and turned away at the polling station, he is heard calling a Black female poll worker a “f—king b–tch.” He then takes off the hat and points it toward another poll worker, and defiantly shouts, “This is my motherf—king right.”
:roll: MAGAts are clueless crybabies.
Political or campaign apparel is barred at polling stations in 21 states, according to Democracy Docket. South Carolina law states that poll managers shall “use every reasonable means to keep the area within five hundred feet of any such entrance clear of political literature and displays.”

The incident in Orangeburg escalated further as the pro-Trump voter told the poll worker to “Shut the hell up and let me vote.” When he is still prevented from voting, he takes the hat off and tosses it to the ground by the feet of a woman recording the interaction.

After he is still refused at the polling desk, he appears to point in the face of another poll worker, also a Black female. The woman strikes the man, who then advances toward her. The poll workers, joined by two white female voters, attempt to retrain the man and remove him from the polling station. The video cuts off before the incident’s conclusion.
:D I know it's a typo for 'restrain', but I like "attempt to retrain the" child.
... A similar incident happened at a polling station last week in San Antonio, Texas, where a Trump voter punched an election worker who told him that he couldn’t wear a pro-Trump baseball cap. The man, identified as Jesse Lutzenberger, was arrested on felony charges for assaulting an elderly person, reported CBS News.

(Christale, South Carolina Democratic Party) Chairwoman Spain said Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump and Republicans – whom she called “MAGA extremists” have “emboldened their voters to behave this way.”...
Will 50 more asshat MAGAts now try it in Orangeburg and other South Carolina polls on Tuesday?
Texas man punched election worker over Trump hat at voting site, police say

A Texas man who wore a hat supporting former President Donald Trump punched an election worker who told him that wearing items endorsing a candidate are prohibited at voting sites, a sheriff said Friday.

The election worker, identified as a 69-year-old man, was treated at the scene Thursday and returned to his election post at a San Antonio library on Friday, officials said.
Hero. Lock the asshat MAGAt up!
The suspect was arrested on felony charges of assaulting an elderly person and could face additional charges, Bexar County Sheriff Javier Salazar said.
:---P
After being told he had to remove his cap in the voting area, Lutzenberger did and proceeded to cast a ballot, according to Salazar. He then put the cap back on before leaving, followed by the clerk again telling him remove the hat while inside the building.

As the clerk escorted him out of the library, Lutzenberger allegedly threw an elbow or arm back toward the clerk and then turned to punch him in the face multiple times, according to Salazar....
Losing their idol's cap is emasculating :violin:

Florida weighs in, of course:
Man brandishes machete with Trump supporters at Florida polling station, police say

An 18-year-old Florida man was in custody Tuesday after he wielded a machete at a Florida polling station, in an apparent attempt to harass voters who did not share his political views, police said. The man came with a group to the polling site to demonstrate support for former President Donald Trump, authorities said.

Caleb Williams is charged with aggravated assault on a person 65 years of age or older and improper exhibition of a firearm or dangerous weapon for his alleged role in the incident, said Neptune Beach Police Chief Michael Key at a news conference. The Neptune Beach Police Department on Wednesday announced an additional charge against Williams for voter intimidation or suppression, after they received new video footage from the polling site.

"During the course of the on-going investigation, we have received new video footage which depicts the suspect committing an additional crime of voter intimidation or suppression within the designated voting location," the police department said in a statement. "As such, one felony of the third-degree count of Voter Intimidation or Suppression was added to the suspect's charges today. This remains an open investigation."

The incident happened at around 4:00 p.m. Tuesday afternoon in the parking lot of Beaches Branch Library, which operated as an early voting facility ahead of the Nov. 5 election, the police chief said. Williams arrived at the property with a group of teenagers who traveled to the polling location "to protest and antagonize the opposing political side," Key said. Seven other people in the group were about 16 or 17 years old, with Williams being the only adult.

The situation escalated when Williams "brandished a machete in an aggressive, threatening posture over his head," according to police. He faced two people, a 71-year-old woman and a 54-year-old woman, as he held the weapon, police said....
Poor parenting?
Neptune Beach Police Department
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Chief Key provides update regarding a person armed w/ a machete arrested at the Beaches Branch Library / Beaches Poling Location, here:
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"The group was there for no other reason but for ill intentions, to cause a disturbance. This is not an incident of solely a First Amendment protected right, but one where they were simply there to cause a ruckus," said the police chief. "Voting in our country is one of the most sacred and protected rights we have. Ensuring everyone's right to vote is crucial and it will not be impeded."

... Williams remained in jail Wednesday morning, CBS affiliate WJAX-TV reported. The station also published video recorded at the site of the incident, which showed the group of teenagers holding flags and signs supporting Trump's reelection campaign, and chanting Trump's name. Williams in the video appeared to have speared one of the flags with his machete, and waved it in the air attached to the end of his weapon.
Locked him up! News report with video of punks' demonstration:
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Alabama Man:
Man who threatened Fulton County DA Fani Willis gets nearly 2 years in prison

An Alabama man who left threatening phone messages for Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis and the county sheriff last summer because he was angry over an investigation into former President Donald Trump was sentenced Tuesday to nearly two years in federal prison.

Arthur Ray Hanson II, of Huntsville, made the phone calls just over a week before Trump and 18 others were indicted in Fulton County in August 2023 over efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election. Federal prosecutors say Hanson left voicemails laced with profanity and racial slurs for Willis and Fulton County Sheriff Pat Labat.

U.S. District Judge J.P. Boulee in Atlanta said he found Hanson's behavior "appalling" and that the victims' fear was "real and legitimate." He sentenced Hanson to serve a year and nine months in prison, followed by three years of supervised release. He also ordered Hanson to pay a fine of $7,500....
Judge J.P. Boulee was appointed by Donald Trump, ha-ha.
:---P :clap:
(lots of detail on the contents of the threatening messages)

... "To add insult to injury, you not only attacked them for doing their job, you attacked them because of the color of the skin," Boulee said. He said the racial slurs in the messages were an "attempt to make them feel low and less valued."

... Willis is running for reelection, and the case against Trump is largely on hold while a pretrial appeal is pending. But when asked whether she plans to continue her prosecution if Trump wins next month's presidential election, Willis said she plans to "continue to prosecute every single case in my office."
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‘I’m at a loss honestly’: People holding Nazi flags harass citizens in Mid-Michigan

A group of people were seen waving Nazi flags in two different Mid-Michigan cities, including outside of a Jewish play.

Many people were waving flags with swastikas on them in front of the American Legion Post in Howell. At the same time, the Fowlerville Community Theater performed the “Diary of Anne Frank” on Saturday night.

A member of the Howell American Legion Post says the legion heard about the rising antisemitism and thought people could learn from the play.
Seriously? Of all the things to protest . . .
... Alex Sutfill, who was driving downtown with his wife at the time says he called the police after seeing the group.

“There was a group of people at the four-way intersection in downtown that had swastika flags and American flags,” said Sutfill. “They were sticking their arms up and yelling hail Hitler and Hail Trump and everything like that.”...
Of course they were.
Peter Damerow, who confronted the group says they told him to go back to his country.

“They looked at me and one of them said,” said Damerow. “No this is Pureville now, and we’re here to make sure it stays pure.”

He says he believes the group did this due to the current political climate within the county.

“I really felt like they felt comfortable enough to do this because of Trump’s reelection and what they said to me at the stop light made that quite clear,” said Damerow....
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Trump’s picks for new administration are focus of bomb threats and ‘swatting’
Pete Hegseth, Elise Stefanik and Matt Gaetz are among those who were either confirmed or reported to be targeted


I understand the anger and the 'tit for tat' mentality, but BOO HISS it's not helpful. Of course, the "threats" may be fakes by the "victims", false flags by MAGAts, or foreign spoofs.

People suck.
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Wir sind Magdeburg.
Je suis Magdeburg.
نحن ماغديبورغ (Nahn Maghdiburgh)
We are Magdeburg.
German Christmas market attack toll rises to 5 killed, 200 injured, minister says

At least five people are now known to have been killed in the vehicle-ramming attack on a Christmas market in the German city of Magdeburg on Friday, the Minister President of Saxony-Anhalt Reiner Haseloff told journalists on Saturday.

Haseloff said that at least 200 more people were injured when a car plowed into festive market-goers in the eastern German city, around 75 miles west of the capital Berlin.

A young child and an adult were among those killed in the attack, according to Haseloff. At least 40 of those injured were so seriously hurt that their lives are still thought to be in danger, according to a Chancellor Olaf Scholz.
:crybaby:
A suspect -- a doctor from Saudi Arabia aged around 50 -- was arrested, Haselhoff said. The man has lived in Germany since 2006....
:wtf: For 18 years he has cared for Germans.

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People suck.

Only slightly related - I just read that the needless atomic bombing of Nagasaki by the US in 1945 killed one quarter of Japan's Catholic population.
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Wow, I did not see this twist coming:
I'm not going looking, but I'll bet that German and US social media have been full of posts from RW Islamophobe bigots since the attack. Opps.

Psychiatrist, figures.
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RW German terrorist AfD fan. Guess who else is an AfD fanboy.
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A racist White South African? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you.
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A fascist White South African? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you.
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Brilliant timing, "genius" Elon.
Elon Musk Endorses Germany's Far-Right Party: 'Only The AFD Can Save Germany'
The controversial billionaire and increasingly close confidant of President-elect Donald Trump is now sticking his head into Germany's elections.


... Musk appears naturally drawn to the AfD, whose nationalist and anti-immigration rhetoric mirrors Trump’s, and he reshared footage last year on X from a pro-AfD account that criticized Germany for subsidizing efforts to rescue refugees from drowning in the Mediterranean.

The German Foreign Office replied directly at the time to note, “It’s called saving lives.”
:---P
In September, the AfD became the first far-right party to win a state election in Germany since World War II. Its leader in Thuringia, Björn Höcke, was convicted for the second time in July for knowingly using a Nazi slogan, “Everything for Germany,” at a political event.

Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.) shared his outrage about Musk’s endorsement Friday on X, writing: “The out of touch billionaire running the incoming Trump Administration announced last night that he enthusiastically supports the neo-Nazi party in Germany. WTF. NONE OF THIS OK, EVERYONE. NONE OF THIS IS NORMAL.”

Former Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-Ill.) agreed, stating in a repost of Musk’s AfD endorsement: “Literally is a neo-Nazi party. Not even joking...."
It's weird.

FYI, an AfD fangirl:
Naomi Seibt (born 18 August 2000) is a German right-wing political activist. She is best known as a climate change denier and for her opposition to climate activist Greta Thunberg. Until April 2020, she was employed by the Heartland Institute, an American conservative and right-wing public policy think tank, which marketed her as the "anti-Greta". She has spoken at multiple events organized by conservative think tanks and has self-identified as a libertarian and an anarcho-capitalist.
:roll: Idiot, like a young Lara Trump. Don't let her drive!
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RWer, of course:
FBI: Largest homemade explosives cache in agency history found in Virginia

... Brad Spafford was arrested earlier this month at his farm outside Norfolk on charges related to failing to register a short barrel rifle, but court documents posted Monday seeking to prevent his release outline broader concerns, including that he had more than 150 explosive devices stored at his home....

Investigators also found hexamethylene triperoxide diamine, which the agency described as “an explosive material that is so unstable it can be exploded merely as a result of friction or temperature changes.”

... Spafford first came to the attention of authorities through a neighbor who reported the defendant was using a photo of President Biden for target practice, expressed approval for political violence and shared a conspiracy theory that missing children were taken by the federal government to be trained as school shooters.
:roll: Idiot.
The neighbor also said Spafford lost three fingers in 2021 while apparently working on an explosive device.
Opps.
After moving to a new farm, Spafford also told his neighbor he was considering fortifying his property with a 360-degree turret where he could use his firearm and had staged the driveway so he could block cars from entering the property.
Failure :violin:
The filing also references Spafford’s belief in “no lives matter,” an apparent nod to a far-right ideology that primarily coordinates through encrypted apps.

The New Jersey Office of Homeland Security and Preparedness described the ideology as one that “promotes targeted attacks, mass killings, and criminal activity, and has historically encouraged members to engage in self-harm and animal abuse.”...
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:think: Military, again. 2 attacks:
The man who died in a Tesla Cybertruck explosion was an active-duty US Army Green Beret

The person who died when a Tesla Cybertruck packed with explosives burst into flames outside President-elect Donald Trump’s Las Vegas hotel was a highly decorated U.S. Army Green Beret who deployed twice to Afghanistan, officials said Thursday.

Two law enforcement officials identified the man inside the futuristic-looking pickup truck as Matthew Livelsberger....

Livelsberger served in the Green Berets, highly trained special forces who work to counter terrorism abroad and train partners, the Army said in a statement. He had served in the Army since 2006, rising through the ranks with a long career of overseas assignments, deploying twice to Afghanistan and serving in Ukraine, Tajikistan, Georgia and Congo, the Army said.
18 years.
He was awarded two Bronze Stars, including one with a valor device for courage under fire, a combat infantry badge and an Army Commendation Medal with valor. Livelsberger was on approved leave when he died, according to the statement....

The explosion of the truck, packed with firework mortars and camp fuel canisters, came hours after 42-year-old Shamsud-Din Bahar Jabbar rammed a truck into a crowd in New Orleans’ famed French Quarter early on New Year’s Day, killing at least 15 people before being shot to death by police. That crash was being investigated as a terrorist attack and police believe the driver was not acting alone.

Both Livelsberger and Jabbar spent time at the base formerly known as Fort Bragg, a massive Army base in North Carolina that is home to multiple Army special operations units....
Why are we training terrorists?

Was Denver intentionally symbolic? Green Berets should know how to build more effective explosives.

Je suis New Orleans:
... Jabbar, a Texas-born US citizen and Army veteran who served in Afghanistan...

Jabbar served in the Army for more than a decade, an Army spokesperson told CNN on Wednesday. He served as a human resource specialist and information technology specialist on active duty between March 2007 and January 2015, and deployed to Afghanistan once from February 2009 to January 2010, the spokesperson said. After leaving active duty in January 2015, Jabbar served in the Army Reserve until July 2020, when he left service as a staff sergeant....

Serving in the military, Jabber said in a YouTube video, had taught him “the meaning of great service and what it means to be responsive and take everything seriously, dotting i’s and crossing t’s to make sure that things go off without a hitch.” The video has since been taken offline. In the video, he sat next to a framed poster with the word “Discipline” in bold, and near a book titled “Leadership.”...
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It's like I used to ask clients when they tried to brush off some issues as a "disgruntled employee". Did you hire him disgruntled or did you make him disgruntled? Either way your got responsibility.

Do they recruit terrorists or do they create terrorists? Either way, terrorists don't just pop up one day out of the mist.

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And we're training some incompetent terrorists to boot.
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What we know about the victims of the New Orleans attack: 'So beautiful and full of life'

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It's like I used to ask clients when they tried to brush off some issues as a "disgruntled employee". Did you hire him disgruntled or did you make him disgruntled? Either way your got responsibility.

Do they recruit terrorists or do they create terrorists? Either way, terrorists don't just pop up one day out of the mist.
There are other factors like radical Islam and Israel's genocide in Gaza, but we've also got to wonder why 9+ years of military service, in both cases, doesn't discourage terrorism.
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And we're training some incompetent terrorists to boot.
Las Vegas sure seems that way. Not that it takes much competence to drive a truck into a crowd, but 14 dead, dozens injured and two cops shot is pretty effective for a US lone wolf (probably) terror attack.

Speaking of America-hating incompetence:
Trump Wrongly Suggests New Orleans Attacker Was Immigrant Amid More Lies About The Crime Rate
As it turns out, the suspect, Shamsud-Din Bahar Jabbar, was a U.S. citizen from Texas and a veteran of the U.S. Army.


Donald Trump hasn’t even been sworn into office yet, and already he’s giving us a glimpse at what we’re in for over the next four years: lies, unmitigated xenophobia and a glaring lack of media literacy that would make anything to come out of the media look like “fake news” to anyone whose critical thinking capacity and ability to discern factual information are virtually non-existent. (So, Trump and your average Trump supporter.) ...

“When I said that the criminals coming in are far worse than the criminals we have in our country, that statement was constantly refuted by Democrats and the Fake News Media, but it turned out to be true,” Trump said on his truth-averse website, Truth Social, according to the New York Times. “The crime rate in our country is at a level that nobody has ever seen before. Our hearts are with all of the innocent victims and their loved ones, including the brave officers of the New Orleans Police Department.”

... As it turns out, the suspect, Shamsud-Din Bahar Jabbar, who was killed during a shoot-out with police following the attack, was a U.S. citizen from Texas, and a veteran of the U.S. Army. So, regardless of what Jabbar’s ideology was or what the motivation was behind his heinous attack, we know that he was a naturally-born citizen who was radicalized right here in the U.S. of A. He was a home-grown terrorist much like the mob of MAGA supporters who tried to overthrow the government on Trump’s behalf on Jan. 6 — or better yet — much like Payton Gendron, the white supremacist who gunned down 10 Black people in Buffalo, New York, and left a manifesto that showed he is a believer of the same white nationalist Great Replacement Theory that Trump and many of his supporters, including GOP officials, also adhere to.

Now, according to the Times, “Some early reports about the attack said the truck was driven across the border from Mexico into the United States,” but that turned out to be false, and, at any rate, it’s no excuse for a supposed leader who will be the next sitting president spreading misinformation because he’s a moron who, despite his constant bemoaning of the “fake news media,” reacts immediately to every media headline he comes across that says exactly what he wants to be true. This is no different than when Trump went on a national debate stage and repeated debunked nonsense about Haitians abducting and eating pets in Springfield, Ohio, despite the fact that every Springfield law enforcement official, including its Republican mayor, reported that there was no evidence that it was happening.
:roll: Whiny White supremacy, as usual.
We didn’t actually need more evidence that Trump is the living embodiment of the “fake news” he complains about, but he keeps giving us more and more to point to, including his oft-repeated, provably false claim that “the crime rate in our country is at a level that nobody has ever seen before.”

Actually, we have already reported on how crime data doesn’t match Trump’s talking points:
Violent crime in America has virtually done nothing but decline since the early 1990s, and crime analysts report that U.S. crime, in general, is currently at a 50-year low. But Republicans continue to ignore the explicitly clear databases of the FBI and local law enforcement agencies —the same databases where they get the Black-on-Black crime statistics they intentionally misinterpret in the most racist ways possible—so they can keep hammering away at the same stale false narrative that crime, especially in the Black community, is rising under Democratic leadership faster than Trump rose for a power fist-appropriating photo-op immediately after getting shot at.
From CNN:
Preliminary FBI data for 2023 showed a roughly 13% national decline in murder and a roughly 6% national decline in overall violent crime compared to 2022, bringing both murder and violent crime levels below where they were in 2020. And preliminary FBI data for the first quarter of 2024 showed an even steeper drop from the same quarter in 2023 – a roughly 26% decline in murder and roughly 15% decline in overall violent crime.

Crime data expert Jeff Asher, co-founder of the firm AH Datalytics, said that if the final 2023 figures show a decline in murder of at least 10% from 2022, this would be the fastest US decline “ever recorded.” And he noted that both the preliminary FBI-published data from the first quarter of 2024 and also “crime data collected from several independent sources point to an even larger decline in property and violent crime, including a substantially larger drop in murder, so far this year compared to 2023, though there is still time left in the year for those trends to change.”
Opps. Lying moron.
The truth is, since the first time Trump was sworn into the White House eight years ago, we’ve seen easily debunked propaganda spewed from the Oval Office “at a level that nobody has ever seen before.” And now we can look forward to another four years of the same.

Sad.
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Not only suggesting it, he's doubling down.
With the Biden “Open Border’s Policy” I said, many times during Rallies, and elsewhere, that Radical Islamic Terrorism, and other forms of violent crime, will become so bad in America that it will become hard to even imagine or believe. That time has come, only worse than ever imagined. Joe Biden is the WORST PRESIDENT IN THE HISTORY OF AMERICA, A COMPLETE AND TOTAL DISASTER. What he and his group of Election Interfering “thugs” have done to our Country will not soon be forgotten! MAGA
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Not only suggesting it, he's doubling down.
With the Biden “Open Border’s Policy” I said, many times during Rallies, and elsewhere, that Radical Islamic Terrorism, and other forms of violent crime, will become so bad in America that it will become hard to even imagine or believe. That time has come, only worse than ever imagined. Joe Biden is the WORST PRESIDENT IN THE HISTORY OF AMERICA, A COMPLETE AND TOTAL DISASTER. What he and his group of Election Interfering “thugs” have done to our Country will not soon be forgotten! MAGA
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Whiny lying bigoted moron.
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:think: Military, again. 2 attacks:

Soldier shot self in head before Cybertruck exploded outside Trump's Las Vegas hotel, officials say


Was Las Vegas intentionally symbolic? Green Berets should know how to build more effective explosives.

As I said:
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Bid to tackle extremism in US military unlikely to be revived under Trump
Twin terror attacks bring renewed focus on scourge of extremism, but efforts to effect change have so far stalled


The deadly New Year’s Day terrorist attacks in New Orleans and Las Vegas have brought renewed attention to the scourge of extremism in the US military, but efforts to tackle it wilted in the later years of the Biden administration, and are unlikely to be revived once Donald Trump begins his second term this month.
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... Though investigators have yet to officially link the events, they follow a pattern of active or veteran military personnel involvement in acts of domestic terrorism, including the 6 January 2021 Capitol riot; a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, in 2017; and the 2009 mass shooting at the former Fort Hood army base in Texas that killed 13.

In response to the series of deadly events, defense secretary Lloyd Austin promised to tackle longstanding failures by the US military to address the problem. In 2021 he announced a series of initiatives, including a working group to study white nationalism and other extremist behavior within the defense department, and the commissioning of an independent report to review the issue and make recommendations.

The efforts, however, fizzled. Congressional Republicans effectively killed the Countering Extremism Working Group in December 2023, starving it of funds in the annual defense authorization bill, months after CNN reported the Pentagon group had “vanished virtually without a trace” because of what analysts said was a concerted Republican “war on woke”.
RepuQs love RW terrorism. Shame.
Its demise, which was never publicly announced, came just weeks after the publication of a report to Congress by the inspector general of the US defense department that detailed 183 investigations of alleged extremism within military ranks.

Dozens of the investigations involved allegations of military members advocating, engaging in or supporting terrorism in the US or overseas, while 14 army investigations related to “advocating or engaging in unlawful force or violence to achieve goals that are political, religious, discriminatory, or ideological in nature”.
People we have trained in the effective use of weaponry. :puke-left:
... But in a November 2024 investigation, the Associated Press found that the IDA report included data two years out of date, “grossly undercounted” the number of serving military and veterans arrested for the 6 January attack, and “provided a misleading picture of the severity of the growing problem” of military extremism, the AP said....
:roll: Looks like I'll be noting US military terrorists often and for a long time. :(
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Maybe the intent was only to blow up the Dumpster truck, not the hotel. Supposedly the guy was a big Trump fan. Blowing up the Tesla could be like hanging Muskrat in effigy. Still, guy had to have some other issues causing some cheese to slip off his cracker and do himself in for his demonstration.

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O Really wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2025 10:48 am
Maybe the intent was only to blow up the Dumpster truck, not the hotel. Supposedly the guy was a big Trump fan. Blowing up the Tesla could be like hanging Muskrat in effigy. Still, guy had to have some other issues causing some cheese to slip off his cracker and do himself in for his demonstration.
Thanks, I hadn't seen the info about DonOLD-love.

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Thu Jan 02, 2025 6:27 pm
Not only suggesting it, he's doubling down.
With the Biden “Open Border’s Policy” I said, many times during Rallies, and elsewhere, that Radical Islamic Terrorism, and other forms of violent crime, will become so bad in America that it will become hard to even imagine or believe. That time has come, only worse than ever imagined. Joe Biden is the WORST PRESIDENT IN THE HISTORY OF AMERICA, A COMPLETE AND TOTAL DISASTER. What he and his group of Election Interfering “thugs” have done to our Country will not soon be forgotten! MAGA
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrum ... 3879157409
Blame Faux Noise, as usual:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/how-f ... r-AA1wRDb7

Faux Noise has since walked back its erroneous xenophobic reporting, but TRE45QN never has the balls to do that.
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"Sugar Bowl sponsor sparks outrage with 'shameful' comments following New Orleans terror attack"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/colle ... ilson.html

Maybe it's just me, but I don't see the reason for "outrage" here. He said:
'Welcome to the Allstate Sugar Bowl,' Wilson's speech began. 'Wednesday, tragedy struck the New Orleans community. Our prayers are with the victims and their families.'

'We also need to be stronger together by overcoming an addiction to divisiveness and negativity. Join Allstate working in local communities all across America to amplify the positive, increase trust, and accept peoples imperfections and differences. Together we win.'
What am I missing?

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Fri Jan 03, 2025 11:39 am


What am I missing?
Clickbait.
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Fri Jan 03, 2025 11:39 am
"Sugar Bowl sponsor sparks outrage with 'shameful' comments following New Orleans terror attack"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/colle ... ilson.html

Maybe it's just me, but I don't see the reason for "outrage" here. He said:
'Welcome to the Allstate Sugar Bowl,' Wilson's speech began. 'Wednesday, tragedy struck the New Orleans community. Our prayers are with the victims and their families.'

'We also need to be stronger together by overcoming an addiction to divisiveness and negativity. Join Allstate working in local communities all across America to amplify the positive, increase trust, and accept peoples imperfections and differences. Together we win.'
What am I missing?
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Fri Jan 03, 2025 12:06 pm
Clickbait.
Funny that the article never presents a coherent case for "outrage" despite quoting several outraged posts :wtf: . Of course, it is the Murdoch-owned Daily Mail, so our expectations should be very low.

Speaking of nonsensical RWers:

Soldier Left Note Explaining Why He Turned a Cybertruck Into a Suicide Bomb

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Yet another con White male terrorist.
A note left behind on an iPhone has revealed a partial motive for why Matthew Livelsberger blew himself and a Cybertruck up in front of Donald Trump’s hotel in Las Vegas this week.

The 37-year-old Green Beret, who the FBI says suffered from post traumatic stress disorder, had “no animosity” for Trump and wrote that the explosion was “not a terrorist attack.”

... “This was not a terrorist attack, it was a wake up call,” he wrote. “Americans only pay attention to spectacles and violence. What better way to get my point across than a stunt with fireworks and explosives?”
Ummm, by definition violence in a civilian setting IS terrorism. MAGAts are irresponsible liars.
His point, apparently, was that the United States, the “best country people (sic) to ever exist,” are “terminally ill” and are headed for “collapse.”

“Fellow Service members, Veterans, and all Americans, TIME TO WAKE UP!” Livelsberger wrote. “We are being led by weak and feckless leadership who only serve to enrich themselves.”
Ummm, that describes TRE45QN as much or more than anyone.
... “Why did I personally do it now?” he wrote. “I needed to cleanse my mind of the brothers I’ve lost and relieve myself of the burden of the lives I took.”
Nothing cleanses the mind like a bullet to the brain.
Livelsberger was the explosion’s only fatality, but seven bystanders were injured in the New Year’s Day blast.
Terrorist. He could have shouted, "RUN!"
A law enforcement source told the Daily Beast on Thursday that Livelsberger’s family told investigators he was a “big” Trump fan who voted for him in November. Another report by The Independent corroborated that, with his uncle saying his nephew “loved Trump” and “a very, very patriotic soldier, a patriotic American.”
Funny, TRE45QN was all over the despicable New Orleans terror attack with lies about the perp being an immigrant. Where are the DonOLD calls to deport Trumpettes?
More details about Livelsberger emerged later Thursday, including a report that said his second wife had left him just days before he killed himself.
Ah, the MAGAt is a crybaby who lashes out. Figures.
... A LinkedIn profile for Livelsberger showed he served in the military for 19 years, including a stint in Afghanistan. More recently, he was based in Germany but had been back stateside on approved leave.

An ex-girlfriend of Livelsberger told The Washington Post he suffered a traumatic brain injury while deployed overseas that left him suffering with “a cloudy memory, poor concentration, difficulty maintaining relationships, and intense guilt over his actions on the battlefield.”
Yet he was still active duty? :wtf:

More:
... “Try peaceful means first, but be prepared to fight to get the Dems out of the fed government and military by any means necessary,” he wrote. “They all must go and a hard reset must occur for our country to avoid collapse.”
Definitely MAGA terrorism.
... “Focus on strength and winning. Masculinity is good and men must be leaders. Strength is a deterrent and fear is the product,” he wrote.
I endorse his leadership towards Trumpette suicides, but it is weak and LOSING.
“Stop obsessing over diversity,” he added. “We are all diverse and DEI is a cancer...."

...
Mentally ill White male military MAGAt bigot, figures.
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This is a really long read, but very interesting.

A man spent years infiltrating a popular militia movement, eventually gaining a leadership position. He leaked all of his data - recordings, emails, etc, to reporters.

https://www.propublica.org/article/ap3- ... litia-mole

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